McRainy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 On 29/01/2018 at 18:16, ThePrisoner said: Pipe down. No pun intended. This deserved more recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 hours ago, gccrowdpleaser said: Not for Wba. They got knocked out by City and he didn't play Came on as sub in Round two against Accrington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 "Derby's pursuit of West Brom's James McClean is over after they were quoted a mind-boggling £15m." - Daily Telegraph That's one way of keeping a player.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Animal is a Ram said: "Derby's pursuit of West Brom's James McClean is over after they were quoted a mind-boggling £15m." - Daily Telegraph That's one way of keeping a player.. Absolutely absurd if true. Pardew is daft enough to quote this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: "Derby's pursuit of West Brom's James McClean is over after they were quoted a mind-boggling £15m." - Daily Telegraph That's one way of keeping a player.. West Brom have never been the easiest to negotiate with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: "Derby's pursuit of West Brom's James McClean is over after they were quoted a mind-boggling £15m." - Daily Telegraph That's one way of keeping a player.. Any pearson reading that would think that perhaps we've been a thorne in their side on a couple of occasions in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, eddie said: Any pearson reading that would think that perhaps we've been a thorne in their side on a couple of occasions in the past. What’s Nigel got to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Why shouldn't they quote £15m - he has played Premier League football regularly. We sold Ince for around £11m inc add ons and he hasn't played no where near as much as McClean in the Premier League, Fulham quoting £20-30m for Cairney as well. If you don't want to sell then quote a ridiculous price and see if anyone actually matches it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: "Derby's pursuit of West Brom's James McClean is over after they were quoted a mind-boggling £15m." - Daily Telegraph That's one way of keeping a player.. At least we should get 7.5 million for Anya using the Pardew Valuation Formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 On 1/28/2018 at 13:56, Carl Sagan said: We live in an era where we've almost lost freedom of speech and people are clamping down on freedom of thought, with a huge herd mentality driven a lot by social media. I respect McClean for not following the herd and have no problem with the political stand he's taken. I'd be surprised if West Brom were willing to sell him. There were rumours of Burnley interest earlier in the season so we'd likely have competition if they were. A winger who would provide more quality and doesn't shirk his defensive duties so would fit in well into a Rowett team. Absolutely spot-on @Carl Sagan. A chap called Blair predicted this years ago and I'm talking Eric Arthur Blair (aka George Orwell) not Tony! The "Thought Police" (cf 1984) are alive and well. I too respect McClean for not following the herd and have no problem with the political stand he's taken. If you look back into Irish history, you will find out that just 165 years ago whilst Irish farming people ate grass in a desperate attempt to stay alive because they were starving with hunger, ships laden with corn and maize left Irish ports. The corn and maize "belonged" to absentee English landlords who "owned" the Irish land and was bound for the markets in Europe. This is fact not political hyperbole. British democracy gives every person the right to freedom of speech; you don't have to agree with the views but you should respect the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosythram Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I agree that clubs have every right to request any fee they want for one of their players, in this case however the situation isn’t enhanced by the common belief that Pardew is an absolute dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 They've quoted us 15 million.. I'd be disappointed if we spent 1 million on him. Now aged 28/29, never really taken off wherever he's been or cemented a first team role at a very average premier league side for the last few seasons. Rather us get a raw talent in leagues 1 or 2 for a couple of million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 53 minutes ago, AdamRam said: What’s Nigel got to do with this? *crickets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 53 minutes ago, coneheadjohn said: At least we should get 7.5 million for Anya using the Pardew Valuation Formula. Close. I heard from a source they used the Unique Valuation Formula to put a price on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, DCFC1388 said: Why shouldn't they quote £15m - he has played Premier League football regularly. We sold Ince for around £11m inc add ons and he hasn't played no where near as much as McClean in the Premier League, Fulham quoting £20-30m for Cairney as well. If you don't want to sell then quote a ridiculous price and see if anyone actually matches it. But he’s not very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Ellafella said: Absolutely spot-on @Carl Sagan. A chap called Blair predicted this years ago and I'm talking Eric Arthur Blair (aka George Orwell) not Tony! The "Thought Police" (cf 1984) are alive and well. I too respect McClean for not following the herd and have no problem with the political stand he's taken. If you look back into Irish history, you will find out that just 165 years ago whilst Irish farming people ate grass in a desperate attempt to stay alive because they were starving with hunger, ships laden with corn and maize left Irish ports. The corn and maize "belonged" to absentee English landlords who "owned" the Irish land and was bound for the markets in Europe. This is fact not political hyperbole. British democracy gives every person the right to freedom of speech; you don't have to agree with the views but you should respect the right. Excellent post. A bit of historical context is always useful. Indeed, those food exports were guarded by police and British army regiments while more than 1 million people died of starvation and 2 million were forced to emigrate,. All this while Ireland was in the UK, probably the richest country in the world at the time. Reading the history of how it all happened is truly shocking. Incidentally the corn is what came in to Ireland in a belated and half-hearted. relief effort. The exports included meats, poultry, dairy and cereals etc.. The country was producing ample food to avoid a serious famine even with the potato blight. As for McClean, the mystery what do people really expect from a boy from the Creggan estates? As long as he doesn't support the IRA (if he did the vitriol towards him would be justifiable in my view). I think most of those criticizing him are probably entirely bereft of knowledge or understanding of the reality of British rule in Ireland. It's frustrating reading noisy uninformed opinion. Anyway, he's not coming to Derby, it seems. In footballing terms I think we can do better anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, coneheadjohn said: At least we should get 7.5 million for Anya using the Pardew Valuation Formula. McClean has 148 premier league appearances to Anya's 39 - so Anya is only worth about £4m on the Pardew scale, which I think was the one we were using when we signed him. If they were quoting £5m I could see us being daft enough to pay it. Surely we go back now and ask about a loan, maybe offering a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rample said: McClean has 148 premier league appearances to Anya's 39 - so Anya is only worth about £4m on the Pardew scale, which I think was the one we were using when we signed him. If they were quoting £5m I could see us being daft enough to pay it. Surely we go back now and ask about a loan, maybe offering a fee. I agree on the 5 million,we would have paid it. Anya gets a hike in his fee for his stepovers,shall we say 4,000,100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Highgate said: Excellent post. A bit of historical context is always useful. Indeed, those food exports were guarded by police and British army regiments while more than 1 million people died of starvation and 2 million were forced to emigrate,. All this while Ireland was in the UK, probably the richest country in the world at the time. Reading the history of how it all happened is truly shocking. Incidentally the corn is what came in to Ireland in a belated and half-hearted. relief effort. The exports included meats, poultry, dairy and cereals etc.. The country was producing ample food to avoid a serious famine even with the potato blight. As for McClean, the mystery what do people really expect from a boy from the Creggan estates? As long as he doesn't support the IRA (if he did the vitriol towards him would be justifiable in my view). I think most of those criticizing him are probably entirely bereft of knowledge or understanding of the reality of British rule in Ireland. It's frustrating reading noisy uninformed opinion. Anyway, he's not coming to Derby, it seems. In footballing terms I think we can do better anyway. Indeed, in late 1848 Parliament granted £100k for the relief of the Irish Famine and £150k for the improvement of Battersea Park in London to widespread disbelief at the time for as many commented £150 k was nowhere near enough money to improve such a beautiful park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Indeed, in late 1848 Parliament granted £100k for the relief of the Irish Famine and £150k for the improvement of Battersea Park in London to widespread disbelief at the time for as many commented £150 k was nowhere near enough money to improve such a beautiful park. To be fair it is a nice park, lovely trees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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