DRBee Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Last week's result blinded many to the errors and failure of the transfer window, where incomings and outgoings have led to an unbalanced squad. We don't have the number of midfield players or type of midfielders to give us the options we need. It's not easy to see how this can be put right now. Huddlestone and Davies have been poor so far and they were trumpeted by the club as part of a successful bit of transfer dealing. Some of Rowett's team selections have been bizarre - notably against Wolves and changing all 11 players midweek. Is he prepared to drop the poor performers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyMark Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Can't help feeling he dropped a massive b******* in midweek On the back of a 5-0, the opportunity to gather momentum and the feel good factor of a trip to Wembley...and he plays the reserves. Far too early in the season to prioritise the league ffs Only justification would've been a win today. But no..thumbed 4-1 at f****** Bristol! Huddlestone and Johnson are too slow in midfield for me. Defence sit's off far too deep. We're reaping what was a disastrous transfer window... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, DRBee said: Some of Rowett's team selections have been bizarre - notably against Wolves and changing all 11 players midweek. Is he prepared to drop the poor performers? I'm not sure he can drop the poor performers, we've literally got no one else in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 We missed a runner in midfield today. A la hendrick, Bryson or Kieftenbeld. I have come to the conclusion that this team is a work in progress. Unfortunately it's core is not based on youth. But there is still a long way to go this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Talks the talk but can't walk the walk imo. Everything he says in the press, none of it comes into action come the night. The squad rebuild never happened, we're still conceding s**** goals, and we still don't have the fight and desire of other teams! Feel for him as the players are a huge problem, but he's had a full window and games before to identify the problems and hasn't done enough imo to fix them. He'll have more time and I hope he turns it around, but if we're still like this in a month or two he's Gone imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdyabroad Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I've always liked Rowett as a player and was happy he became manager. However, the one thing that has really annoyed me is that he made clear we wouldn't become a team that hands ex-premier league veterans their final paycheck. This was right before we signed Davies and Hudds. As I said on another post, we've become an 'old team' all of a sudden. So, as much as I like Rowett, I'm still witnessing a transfer policy that lacks any joined-up thinking; similar to Pearson and Clement before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Talks the talk but can't walk the walk imo. Everything he says in the press, none of it comes into action come the night. The squad rebuild never happened, we're still conceding s**** goals, and we still don't have the fight and desire of other teams! Feel for him as the players are a huge problem, but he's had a full window and games before to identify the problems and hasn't done enough imo to fix them. He'll have more time and I hope he turns it around, but if we're still like this in a month or two he's Gone imo. For me Gary, Mel and whoever else had a catastrophic transfer window, Rowett made a rod for his own back when he talked openly about big rebuilds, the squad bearing no resemblance, top 2 finishes, players of high quality being signed. He failed to deliver a lot of what was promised and significantly weakened us in midfield, had the 3 amigos been here instead of Mel, we would have gone mental on transfer deadline day. Its time to acknowledge, we had our chance at Wembley and we blew it, we need to stop signing ex prem players like Huddlestone and Davies, both who suffered relegation, and start signing players with hunger and desire (another promise from Rowett he didn't deliver on). So many things wrong at the club to just point the finger at Rowett though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 Still no, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 He needs two full seasons at least end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Sparkle said: He needs two full seasons at least end of story Managers don't get that sort of time anymore. Mel sacked Clement for being 5th and 3 points off top. Think he'll hesititate to sack Gary if we aren't top half by October? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Talks the talk but can't walk the walk imo. Everything he says in the press, none of it comes into action come the night. The squad rebuild never happened, we're still conceding s**** goals, and we still don't have the fight and desire of other teams! Feel for him as the players are a huge problem, but he's had a full window and games before to identify the problems and hasn't done enough imo to fix them. He'll have more time and I hope he turns it around, but if we're still like this in a month or two he's Gone imo. A full window?. Bloody hell give him sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 He will be away soon going by previous decisions but I'm sure a lot of his decisions this season are driven by morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: A full window?. Bloody hell give him sometime. Average manager reign is 9 months nowadays. For rowett to make it to the end of the season he needs to be doing well, so far thag Ian particularly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, ramma said: Managers don't get that sort of time anymore. Mel sacked Clement for being 5th and 3 points off top. Think he'll hesititate to sack Gary if we aren't top half by October? Pearson and Clement were dismissed/ left for different reasons than results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Talks the talk but can't walk the walk imo. Everything he says in the press, none of it comes into action come the night. The squad rebuild never happened, we're still conceding s**** goals, and we still don't have the fight and desire of other teams! Feel for him as the players are a huge problem, but he's had a full window and games before to identify the problems and hasn't done enough imo to fix them. He'll have more time and I hope he turns it around, but if we're still like this in a month or two he's Gone imo. Your right the players are the problem he's explained enough times why he's been unable to fix the problems Nobody wants our players .we are close to FFP and he's got players he obviously doesn't want Afraid we've got to suck for a few weeks we've got plenty in there last year of contract So hopefully some will be gone in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, ramma said: Managers don't get that sort of time anymore. Mel sacked Clement for being 5th and 3 points off top. Think he'll hesititate to sack Gary if we aren't top half by October? That decision now looks unreal hey? I think Laughing stock is used too easily, but I do believe we are a massive laughing stock in football. At least under the 3 amigos we knew we were s**** anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 He's got to be given time,we have no other option. How about we bring arry in to advise...worked last time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 How about we stay patient. Gary will do everything to get us right. Let him have a fair go at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Mistaram said: Your right the players are the problem he's explained enough times why he's been unable to fix the problems Nobody wants our players .we are close to FFP and he's got players he obviously doesn't want Afraid we've got to suck for a few weeks we've got plenty in there last year of contract So hopefully some will be gone in January Perhaps he should have tried the carrot rather than the stick with them then. He was way too confident he'd be able to ship them out, or send them to the U23s didn't he say?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Pearson and Clement were dismissed/ left for different reasons than results If we'd have been top of the league when these different reasons occurred, do you still think they'd been sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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