Anag Ram Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, Saul Pimpson said: Nah not having it. Surely a reunion with Gaz is Toral's preference given the choice. Not bothered either way to be honest, we have more than enough players. We have enough. But are they of sufficient quality? I still think we should try to offload a few and get one running and one skilful midfield player. At the moment I would say we could get exposed by a team quick on the counter attack. Wins against Preston and Bolton do not make us world beaters. Sheffield will be a tougher test and there are plenty of top teams in this league. I'm not saying we're a poor side, far from it, but our midfield is still a bit predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'd be disappointed to miss out on Toral. Some players work better under certain managers, which we know Toral did under Rowett. I agree that he wouldn't be a star signing that would immediately be granted a guaranteed first team place, but he offers an option in five, perhaps six, different roles in our team. At the very least, he's an excellent option off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle guest Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Wonder if with toral going to hull we'll now go in for Callum Mcmanaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Reports he's off to Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Isn't he in the last year of his contract? If so (and I am unsure of this), then a loan would be unlikely because he would be able to leave at the end of the season for compensation only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hull have offered to buy him for whatever Arsenal want, which is too much for us. Expect a pretty high figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 If Kevin Stewart is anything to go buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf's shin pads Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just said on the phone-in that Pat Murphy also believes Gallagher to Brum and Toral to Hull to be true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Rowetts next move will be interesting, he pretty much guaranteed we would be signing at least one more player, assuming both Toral and Gallagher were really targets we have missed out on both on the same day. Does he have plan C and D up his sleeve, or does he step back and go with what we have got? Vydra, Russell and Weimann still have it in them to be an attacking force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramdale Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hopefully Che Adams. Can play anywhere across the front 4 spots and would add needed pace and power to the forward options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We're waiting for Jota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: ...assuming both Toral and Gallagher were really targets we have missed out on both on the same day. Not only missing out on them, but missing out on them due to taking a position backwards to that which makes any sort of sense given their respective situations at their current clubs. On the face of it a bizarre way of trying to doing business which has backfired in double measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf's shin pads Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Norman said: We're waiting for Jota. To be fair I'd rather have him than both Gallagher and Toral, but I fear it may be more out of hope than expectation. If we have been priced out of a move for Toral I can't imagine Jota would be any cheaper (unless you have heard something!?!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ramdale said: Hopefully Che Adams. Can play anywhere across the front 4 spots and would add needed pace and power to the forward options. Hamstring injury-out for 6 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gandalf's shin pads said: To be fair I'd rather have him than both Gallagher and Toral, but I fear it may be more out of hope than expectation. If we have been priced out of a move for Toral I can't imagine Jota would be any cheaper (unless you have heard something!?!) No, just makes sense to me. If he's still available, then I'd gamble and lose out on players in the hope of getting him. He's in the last year of his contract, theyre bottom of the league and we look like challenging. Hopefully a few outs will help the budget to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Losing out on all our targets. Gallagher, Toral. Now Che Adams died of a hamstring injury. It's been a bad day all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I cannot say I am surprised....we bugger about too much and are not decisive enough DEL....are you noting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Coconut said: Not only missing out on them, but missing out on them due to taking a position backwards to that which makes any sort of sense given their respective situations at their current clubs. On the face of it a bizarre way of trying to doing business which has backfired in double measure. Nah, I'm not having that pal. We'll be doing our best to get in our targets within the prices we think they're worth. It seems like every time a player we've been linked with goes elsewhere we want to slate the club for failing to land targets. There was a groundswell of opinion two weeks ago that we should abandon Lawrence and bid over the odds for the lad from Preston. That looks a bit silly now having seen Lawrence come in for less than the headline figure and the Preston lad look anonymous last Tuesday. If Hull come in for Toral panicking because they've lost half a team (notably to us) and flush with parachute money and £12m for Clucas, it's fairly likely they'll outbid us on fee and wages for a player who, while we respect and GR knows and likes, none of us can genuinely pin down where he'd play if we did get him. We don't really know what deal we've tried to do, or what our cut-off is. I think you can only judge GR on the signings he's got over the line. Pretty steady in my opinion. There'll one or two more yet, but hopefully the days of Anya/Butterfield type signings are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, needles said: Nah, I'm not having that pal. We'll be doing our best to get in our targets within the prices we think they're worth. It seems like every time a player we've been linked with goes elsewhere we want to slate the club for failing to land targets. There was a groundswell of opinion two weeks ago that we should abandon Lawrence and bid over the odds for the lad from Preston. That looks a bit silly now having seen Lawrence come in for less than the headline figure and the Preston lad look anonymous last Tuesday. If Hull come in for Toral panicking because they've lost half a team (notably to us) and flush with parachute money and £12m for Clucas, it's fairly likely they'll outbid us on fee and wages for a player who, while we respect and GR knows and likes, none of us can genuinely pin down where he'd play if we did get him. We don't really know what deal we've tried to do, or what our cut-off is. I think you can only judge GR on the signings he's got over the line. Pretty steady in my opinion. There'll one or two more yet, but hopefully the days of Anya/Butterfield type signings are over. totally agree with that - being more measured in the transfer market this time, paying stupid money and wages is not sustainable and has got us into difficulties. I have no doubt we will land one (buy) and a loan in the next ten days - confidence in the management team and Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Vydra has stepped up. In the past, he was the best number 10 in the division. It's been an added bonus, and you'd think it has lessened the need for a new signing in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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