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Why do CB's always take the flak for conceding at corners? There are about nine Derby shirts in the area at corners, yet all the blame is out on just two... Why?

Forest's left-back scored the header. So aside from Velios, Mancienne and the two CB's, Forest evidently had another player capable of finding the net with his head from a corner.

So you're basically asking the CB's to mark five players?

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Didn't work at Leeds. 

We have a lot of weak players in the air. 

Even Keogh by CB standards is hardly a beast.

Getting your head on the ball isn't always winning the header. If you can't get distance or direction on it then there's likely a second ball dropping in the box. 

Forsyth. Now there's a beast in the air

 

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It's about team organisation and discipline, you can't just blame the CB's because they're the tallest. A classic idiots response to a problem is to think it's as easy as changing one variable and then it'll work, that's a massive over-simplification of the issue.

You can't just buy a 6'5 CB and suddenly never concede corners.

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Having Shackell back will help a little but you forget big Chrissy Martin at the front post and the height of Thorne and forsyth in the middle you instantly look like a better unit.

Whoever was marking or trying to mark Pinillos was at fault for the goal he had a free run at it just block him ffs.

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2 minutes ago, Alpha said:

Didn't work at Leeds. 

We have a lot of weak players in the air. 

Even Keogh by CB standards is hardly a beast.

Getting your head on the ball isn't always winning the header. If you can't get distance or direction on it then there's likely a second ball dropping in the box. 

Forsyth. Now there's a beast in the air

 

Martin is missed as well.

It would be nice to see the keeper come and claim a corner as well.

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16 minutes ago, rynny said:

Martin is missed as well.

It would be nice to see the keeper come and claim a corner as well.

I think it would help a lot if we didn't concede corners in the last minute. I think taking Vydra and nugent off means we lose players who can hold the ball up further upfield. Happened against Preston and against forest. Having martin back would help with that as well. And hughes if he can get his mojo back.

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When we got to the play off final we had the likes of Wisdom, Buxton,Thorne and Forsyth who were all very good headers of the ball with the likes of Martin,Keogh Hendrick, Hughes and Bamford backing them up with their height. Now we have arguably only got Baird and Johnson who are good headers of the ball. Pearce is also good but his positioning is all over the place which in turn makes the likes of Keogh panic too.

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We've conceded again from a corner so Shackell is put forward as the answer. He is a very good defensive header of the ball agreed, but his distribution in open play has kept him out of the team, which from a neutral seems harsh but it really is that bad and was he was slated for it.

Teams sussed  out that when Carson rolled him the ball, He will pass it sideways to keogh so press shackell and keogh he would look across, panic and blindly hoof. Bringing Shackell back purely for his airial ability is a bit of a knee jerk reaction, until he improves is less formidable sides of his game. 

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We need to be going into injury time with a two goal lead at present. Until that changes the team will not progress.

In the promotion season under Billy Davis, if we went 1-0 we were fairly confident of seeing a game out. This was probably down to responsible experienced central defenders and a captain on the field who could organise things. We've not had enough players with those attributes for a while now. 

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Shackell is a decent set-piece defender I'll give him that. But he wouldn't have prevented that goal single-handedly. 

Our weaknesses at set-pieces this season come down to the fact that Chris Martin is no longer on the near post, Craig Forsyth is no longer in the box and George Thorne isn't out of the medical room. 

Those three players together have far more of an effect on how we defend set-pieces that Shackell does. 

Shackell does not magically solve all set-piece problems. To prove this I present exhibit number one - Leeds United away which was a masterclass in defensive ineptitude.

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