Comrade 86 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 38 minutes ago, curtains said: Jonny Russell the nearly man. ? Yep. the nearly man who has been first choice in his position since 2013. Perhaps you've noticed? If you want to start slagging Russell off again there's a another thread provided for you to do so. Head there and fill your boots mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Simsy said: vydra is not a wide player!! It's already started with Mac playing him there and if it continues its going to keep grating on me. Play him central or sell him no point putting square pegs in those round holes when we have round pegs!! Says who ? The games evolved and players have evolved. Vydra has all the qualities to play as a wide forward , if we were playing a flat 4 4 2 I could understand were your coming from he's not a winger but as I stated above we don't play with wingers as such. When Russell came he was not a wide player. Players can adapt , they need too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 38 minutes ago, BobbyD said: I was indeed, son. But I wasn't on some substance that maybe you were. Just allow others to have another view . You are selling yourself short, Mr Wolfie. Get help. You really need to take yourself (and others) less seriously otherwise this forums' not for you. Lighten up dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Handbags at 6 paces as Trevor Brooking once said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laticman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Coconut said: That's great and all, but I think what everyone really wanted to read were your thoughts on Jake Buxton!? Buxton gives his all every time he plays for us but he's not the quickest defender I've ever seen. Despite his limitations he's been pretty good for us and is a regular starter under Warren Joyce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Buxton out of his depth massively move on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 hours ago, curtains said: We haven't got Chris Martin back have we . It is by no means certain. Wildschut is a proper winger who is very classy. Have you seen much of Wildschut? He was awful for Boro and struggled to get a game so they sold him to Wigan and yes he's been decent there, but still has only scored 4 league goals. Us signing him to me would be very similar to the Blackman signing. He's done barely anything throughout his career but we splash the cash because he's been good for half a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Excellent player who would fit the system, but not convinced he's worth the kind of fee that's being touted in all honesty. If only Sako was looking to move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: Says who ? The games evolved and players have evolved. Vydra has all the qualities to play as a wide forward , if we were playing a flat 4 4 2 I could understand were your coming from he's not a winger but as I stated above we don't play with wingers as such. When Russell came he was not a wide player. Players can adapt , they need too . He doesn't have the defensive qualities to play that role. He doesn't have the qualities to run at full backs and put in a good cross. It's really tight margins at this level that makes all the difference. When we have natural players who can play that role it makes no sense to play vydra there. If we always stay to this plan A formation then we need him to adapt and play the lone striker role. Obviously he's no way near the level of aguero but he is a perfect example how a pacey small striker can effectively do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Simsy said: He doesn't have the defensive qualities to play that role. He doesn't have the qualities to run at full backs and put in a good cross. It's really tight margins at this level that makes all the difference. When we have natural players who can play that role it makes no sense to play vydra there. If we always stay to this plan A formation then we need him to adapt and play the lone striker role. Obviously he's no way near the level of aguero but he is a perfect example how a pacey small striker can effectively do it. Regarding him playing the lone striker role. I myself was thinking this the other day that it's a bit of a myth that you need to be of a certain physical presence to play a lone striker role. There's plenty of smaller , quick strikers playing the role . Regarding Vydra playing out wide I would never expect him to be the best defensively, Ince isn't (although that side of his game has improved) . But you would pick him in that role accordingly. I suppose in some respects I just want Vydra to fit somewere into the system and hope we can get the best out of him. There really is a he'll of a player in there somewhere, I think Mac knows that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, RiddingsRam said: Regarding him playing the lone striker role. I myself was thinking this the other day that it's a bit of a myth that you need to be of a certain physical presence to play a lone striker role. There's plenty of smaller , quick strikers playing the role . Regarding Vydra playing out wide I would never expect him to be the best defensively, Ince isn't (although that side of his game has improved) . But you would pick him in that role accordingly. I suppose in some respects I just want Vydra to fit somewere into the system and hope we can get the best out of him. There really is a he'll of a player in there somewhere, I think Mac knows that too. Hope you're right, but I don't know why folks say that. I've never seen anything but honest and willing running and disappointing lack of ability to influence games. Like Theo Robinson, but without the pace or goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 8 hours ago, needles said: Like Theo Robinson, but without the pace or goals. The flip side of that being he does have things I quite like such as basic control... Ball skills... The ability to pass to an actual Derby player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Wildschut situation seems very similar to the Blackman situation tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Please Derby, don't get ripped off again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 EDIT: SDSR beat me to it.. Nah, you're alright. Worth £1.5m more than Ince? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Millenniumram Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Frankly couldn't give a **** how much he costs, just that he comes here and is successful. Not seen a lot of him, but he tore chris Baird a new one the other week- and I've seen few wingers do that. So sign him up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, Animal is a Ram said: Blimy... I hope a lot of that is add ons Tomorrow suddenly got a lot more interesting. Looks like we've got the £ for one more big signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 But Mac said the purse was closed until summer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'll be back in 81 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 How about player swap with Camara or Russell and Blackman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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