Hodgson Resigns - Next England Manager?

[TimRam]

3 hours ago, ketteringram said:

So........ How come these same players, can so often produce the goods at club level? 

Carried by other players. Rooney anyone?

[61GT]

I'm sure this has already been posted but just in case: -

[EnigmaRam]

Sam allardyce If going English.

slaven Bilic if we want to achieve anything.

on a side note, half the problem is the majority of kids are coached by enthusiastic dads that look around and think nobody else is stepping up so I will. 99% have full time jobs and have to juggle that with managing a kids team. Parents moaning about game time, why haven't they started and are sub etc.

kids get scouted for clubs, spend a few weeks at an academy then get dropped as they aren't deemed good enough. How the hell do you know after a few weeks,mother barely know the other kids names, what's expected or how to communicate.

there needs to be a better system in place for progress of English talent within football.

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[Animal is a Ram]

Klinsmann has done good things with the US team.

[MuespachRam]

Just now, Animal is a Ram said:

Klinsmann has done good things with the US team.

And is about as popular as a dog turd sandwich over here 

[Animal is a Ram]

2 minutes ago, MuespachRam said:

And is about as popular as a dog turd sandwich over here 

Well, they do play with an egg instead of a ball, so what would they know? 

[ramit]

Heimir Hallgrímsson the co manager of Iceland has suggested his partner Lars Lagerback for the job.  Lars had previously stated that he would retire now, but you know how it is, it's hard to stay away especially when having such fun.  He now says he might consider another job but it would have to be something very special.  Can't get more special than managing England.
He would be tremendous for you, an inspired appointment.

[Ted McMinn Football Genius]

Jurgen Klinsmann has expressed an interest in the England job according to Sky Sports. 

He should defo be interviewed IMO

[MuespachRam]

4 hours ago, Animal is a Ram said:

Well, they do play with an egg instead of a ball, so what would they know? 

Pretty sure they don't..

[MuespachRam]

15 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said:

Jurgen Klinsmann has expressed an interest in the England job according to Sky Sports. 

He should defo be interviewed IMO

Another fabulous example of great players making not so great managers. We need to keep clear of him totally. 

[Animal is a Ram]

12 minutes ago, MuespachRam said:

Pretty sure they don't..

Can't tell if joke missed..

[BBG83]

4 hours ago, EnigmaRam said:

Sam allardyce If going English.

slaven Bilic if we want to achieve anything.

on a side note, half the problem is the majority of kids are coached by enthusiastic dads that look around and think nobody else is stepping up so I will. 99% have full time jobs and have to juggle that with managing a kids team. Parents moaning about game time, why haven't they started and are sub etc.

kids get scouted for clubs, spend a few weeks at an academy then get dropped as they aren't deemed good enough. How the hell do you know after a few weeks,mother barely know the other kids names, what's expected or how to communicate.

there needs to be a better system in place for progress of English talent within football.

Fantastic post re. the way kids are developed.

My son is seven and as much as I enjoy watching him play, the entire setup frustrates the hell out of me.

He'll play non competitive football until he's twelve. That in my eyes is just plain wrong and 'do good' thinking. Don't get me wrong, all kids irrespective of their talent should be getting game time, but the teams should be split into leagues and naturally allowed to compete and progress.

Same with the coaching. I help a little bit (reluctantly), and I like to think I know a little bit. But all I hear is new fangled coaching rubbish, i.e. you can't have kids in lines (for shooting practice).

I've seen a lot of kids football over the last ten years and I can confirm that (a) kids aren't that good any more (b) they're only interested in what boots they're wearing (c) Lilleshall should never have been closed. The academies are plain awful and are doing nothing to help progress the national game.

Can the FA please make it so that teams can only field 3-4 foreign players in an FA Cup fixture. Please. Its such a simple thing to do to allow youth players to play in all environments and atmospheres, in what is a knock out tournament.

Rant over. The state of the English game is shocking. 

[Anon]

1 hour ago, MuespachRam said:

Another fabulous example of great players making not so great managers. We need to keep clear of him totally. 

To be fair to Klinsmann it was him who brought Joachim Löw into the German national set up and the pair of them laid the foundations that the team operates so successfully under today. Löw is the interesting case and evidence that our FA really should take heed of. You don't need to be an exceptional player or club manager to make a brilliant national coach. The skill set and temperament for national and club managers are so different. We need to find a specialist national coach and give him the authority and breathing room to build the England national set up from the ground up.

[CastletonRam]

Allardyce for me if FA are going for a domestic man. Takes no prisoners. Too many players in the current group think they are precious little snowflakes. He'll sort them out. Howe is only 38 and this would wreck him. If we're going foreign then Blanc has just left PSG maybe he'd be worth a punt. 

[MuespachRam]

1 hour ago, Super Johnny Russell said:

Fantastic post re. the way kids are developed.

My son is seven and as much as I enjoy watching him play, the entire setup frustrates the hell out of me.

He'll play non competitive football until he's twelve. That in my eyes is just plain wrong and 'do good' thinking. Don't get me wrong, all kids irrespective of their talent should be getting game time, but the teams should be split into leagues and naturally allowed to compete and progress.

Same with the coaching. I help a little bit (reluctantly), and I like to think I know a little bit. But all I hear is new fangled coaching rubbish, i.e. you can't have kids in lines (for shooting practice).

I've seen a lot of kids football over the last ten years and I can confirm that (a) kids aren't that good any more (b) they're only interested in what boots they're wearing (c) Lilleshall should never have been closed. The academies are plain awful and are doing nothing to help progress the national game.

Can the FA please make it so that teams can only field 3-4 foreign players in an FA Cup fixture. Please. Its such a simple thing to do to allow youth players to play in all environments and atmospheres, in what is a knock out tournament.

Rant over. The state of the English game is shocking. 

I have to say I agree on a lot of what you are saying, actually all of it, apart from that kids should be playing competitively at 7. They shouldn't have to worry about winning and losing until they are at least 11 or 12. One of the biggest problems is the parents and "coaches" who all think they are the next Wenger, far too may of them are interested in winning for their personal gain rather than what might be good for the kids involved.

All the talk about the population size of Iceland, everyone has heard, well I heard an interesting fact today, there are more registered coaches in Iceland than England....let that sink in for a second...now tell me where the problem is.

[cannable]

1 hour ago, Super Johnny Russell said:

Fantastic post re. the way kids are developed.

My son is seven and as much as I enjoy watching him play, the entire setup frustrates the hell out of me.

He'll play non competitive football until he's twelve. That in my eyes is just plain wrong and 'do good' thinking. Don't get me wrong, all kids irrespective of their talent should be getting game time, but the teams should be split into leagues and naturally allowed to compete and progress.

 

The idea behind non-competitive football is so that results football isn't a thing at an early age and that the main focus is developing them as footballers. 

Think about it, have competitive football from an early age and the 'best' players will all be the naturally taller, faster and stronger kids.

[Mafiabob]

1 hour ago, Super Johnny Russell said:

Fantastic post re. the way kids are developed.

My son is seven and as much as I enjoy watching him play, the entire setup frustrates the hell out of me.

He'll play non competitive football until he's twelve. That in my eyes is just plain wrong and 'do good' thinking. Don't get me wrong, all kids irrespective of their talent should be getting game time, but the teams should be split into leagues and naturally allowed to compete and progress.

Same with the coaching. I help a little bit (reluctantly), and I like to think I know a little bit. But all I hear is new fangled coaching rubbish, i.e. you can't have kids in lines (for shooting practice).

I've seen a lot of kids football over the last ten years and I can confirm that (a) kids aren't that good any more (b) they're only interested in what boots they're wearing (c) Lilleshall should never have been closed. The academies are plain awful and are doing nothing to help progress the national game.

Can the FA please make it so that teams can only field 3-4 foreign players in an FA Cup fixture. Please. Its such a simple thing to do to allow youth players to play in all environments and atmospheres, in what is a knock out tournament.

Rant over. The state of the English game is shocking. 

Another thing I'll say is that it's all about winning for some managers now. Speak to a few and some think they are the next Mourinho "I've won this, I won that"

Problem you've got as well is parents heads gets turned when a academy comes in for them. Kids of 6/7 years of age getting picked off. Parents thinking they're the best thing since sliced bread.

The idea of thewinning/competitive thing at just a young age is wrong. Game by game it's fine but why do they need a goal to get to "semi finals of this" "final of that" or you "got to score 10 against these" which I've heard frequently whilst my lads have played (6 and 9 by the way)

The biggest problem for me that NEEDS addressing is...... The fun has gone for some of the kids.

As for academies, strict rules on what they eat from the age 8 (no maccies etc), can't a child be a child FFS.

They ain't robots, they need to grow up and be a person first.

As for the older lads 16/17, they need a education in life, they've got everything handed to them on a plate and are bubble wrapped from living life. There not educated  in actually having a life. Footballers are like politicians for me now. Live in a enclosed life where they don't see the real world.

 

[Mafiabob]

11 minutes ago, MuespachRam said:

I have to say I agree on a lot of what you are saying, actually all of it, apart from that kids should be playing competitively at 7. They shouldn't have to worry about winning and losing until they are at least 11 or 12. One of the biggest problems is the parents and "coaches" who all think they are the next Wenger, far too may of them are interested in winning for their personal gain rather than what might be good for the kids involved.

All the talk about the population size of Iceland, everyone has heard, well I heard an interesting fact today, there are more registered coaches in Iceland than England....let that sink in for a second...now tell me where the problem is.

On the button..... 

[Rev]

Another point I'd make, we'll never get kids to play football properly until we stop making them turn out in the middle of winter on pitches that range from ankle high mudbaths to semi defrosted cheesecakes.

Make it a summer sport, at least until they're 12/13, even Messi wouldn't have come through an English winter.