DerbyPride Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 30 minutes ago, Dethorn said: To be honest I have always liked Jeff, and I think he could be exactly the sort of guy Pearson would go for. ie. good engine. Value wise if he were to go after a succesful Euro 2016 I think must be £6m, he is still young enough to be improving. I also feel that he really went up in my estimation when he played CDM versus Hull, with the exception of Thorne I think he was the best I have seen there. Will ran him close but for me we are a better side with Will further forward. But the beuty of Jeff is he could play with George and Will to. George CDM, Will the Fancy Dan and Jeff the box to box enigine room bit. With regards to his performance at Hull, I agree that he was brilliant. However, that was an oddity of a game. We were pretty much gung-ho for the entire match whilst they effectively parked the bus. Defending wise he didn't have a lot to do. He's been tried in the CDM position multiple times in the past and looked like a fish out of water. Don't let one good game cloud your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Wonder which side it is that's leaked this? Surely can't be Burnley going out their way to unsettle players after what they moaned about last summer? Not like Dyche to be a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I don't think I'd have answered them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, DerbyPride said: With regards to his performance at Hull, I agree that he was brilliant. However, that was an oddity of a game. We were pretty much gung-ho for the entire match whilst they effectively parked the bus. Defending wise he didn't have a lot to do. He's been tried in the CDM position multiple times in the past and looked like a fish out of water. Don't let one good game cloud your judgement. Ahhh see but I think there's a lesson there too... None of this 'cautious building play' nonsense... Play every game like you're 3 0 down over two legs and we'll pound this division... Don't need a DM if your forwards do all your defending in their half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaretsRick Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I think you did answer us. The reply simply said "LOL" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Pretty weak offer given the market at the minute but who accepts the first bid for a player anyway? Interested to see who made the bid public. Suspect it was probably ourselves in the hope of getting others involved to get others to drive his price upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopRam Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 The fact they are holding out for 20 million for Keane but are offering 3 for Jeff is just laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, TopRam said: The fact they are holding out for 20 million for Keane but are offering 3 for Jeff is just laughable Exactly. Purely insulting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Out of all the positions in the team where we have plenty of depth it is CM so we can afford to lose one. Hendrick is one of those player capable of so much but very often his performances leave much to be desired. I feel that Pearson will like the look of Hendrick though. £3.5 Mil is derisory to put it lightly. If they want £20mil for Keane we need at least £10Mil for Jeff and thats if we wanted to sell, the guy is 24 coming to the prime of his career and is a fully fledged international. Then again this is Sean 'Shoe string budget' Dyche we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 What an absolute joke of a bid. Do they not have the internet in Burnley? Given the current state of the market Jeff is worth more than 3 times that figure. But factor in how we don't need to sell then 4 times that figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 A team isn't going to bid their highest offer first. It's a test the water bid. Just like Derby will never accept the first offer. Remember we bid 1m to start of the Shackell bidding. Burnley, rightly thought that was laughable too. The other increased by over 3x. Not saying that Shackell and Hendrick are the same because of age and position, but it's the same sort of scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 In the current market, we could get 20 million here if 2-3 clubs both fancy him. Crazy times these end days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 So Premiership clubs are coming in for Hendrick but we don't hear a thing about anyone wanting Johnson or Butterfield. That personally shows me something about how our players are rated. I hope we don't sell Jeff, he has a very important role to play IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Low ball offer to disrupt the player so he hands in a transfer request? I like Jeff as a player and it would be interesting to see if Pearson can get him playing like he did at the Euros. But for me it makes sense to sell our academy players at their highest point of value. Isn't that kind of the point, and the self-sustainable model we are aiming for in the long run? Cash in, take a profit and reinvest, ready for the next Jeff Hendrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, cosmic said: Low ball offer to disrupt the player so he hands in a transfer request? Jeff isn't that stupid to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Animal is a Ram said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, cosmic said: Low ball offer to disrupt the player so he hands in a transfer request? I like Jeff as a player and it would be interesting to see if Pearson can get him playing like he did at the Euros. But for me it makes sense to sell our academy players at their highest point of value. Isn't that kind of the point, and the self-sustainable model we are aiming for in the long run? Cash in, take a profit and reinvest, ready for the next Jeff Hendrick. He's not going to hand in a transfer request to play for Burnley and get relegated. If a club comes in that's a genuinely exciting opportunity for him with a low ball offer then maybe (I don't mean just top teams either, just anyone who Jeff would likely feel as though he's not going to be in a hard relegation scrap. I just can't see Hendrick performing in a team that's being stifled). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 When all of our midfield options are available I'm not sure he's a starter for Derby County. Let's not pretend he's a world-beater. I'll wager we could find more composed technical midfielders in the Spanish or Italian leagues for the same price. If we are afraid of change we will get what we've got in the past few seasons- narrow failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 45 minutes ago, DerbyPride said: With regards to his performance at Hull, I agree that he was brilliant. However, that was an oddity of a game. We were pretty much gung-ho for the entire match whilst they effectively parked the bus. Defending wise he didn't have a lot to do. He's been tried in the CDM position multiple times in the past and looked like a fish out of water. Don't let one good game cloud your judgement. Fair enough - I think that is the only time I have seen him in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I reckon Jeff will be gone this window, too much of a buzz around him and he's not even our best central midfielder (50% of the time he's not even top 3). Someone who tempts him is going to make an offer that matches the club's valuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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