richinspain Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Maybe Rowett could sign all our deadwood before he becomes our new head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 11 hours ago, Ninos said: He bided his time but that first game Albentosa played in a back 3 where Keogh was shifted to the right, he was fantastic as the centre back. He was telling people what to do, totally dominant in the air, and just seemed imperious back there. He made one wayward pass as I recall. Then boom, in typical fashion, he was dropped. Remember thinking at the time, that he was probably pulling his hair out, thinking why did they bring me in if they are sticking me on the bench after I play like that. Happens far too much at Derby - Blackman, Camara, etc etc. We go get a player then dump them on the bench and out of the match day squad. If we get a strong player you can wait a few games but once they play they need to keep playing. Otherwise don't get them. In the past year, players seem to get worse after we bring them in, and that needs to change. Shotton will be fantastic for Birmingham, you just watch. The problem isn't that we sign players and drop them, the problem is we sign players who are either worse than we have already, or not suited to the way we are playing, and the dropping etc happens because of this. Albentosa is a big, physical defender, but not great on the ball, so he didn't fit in with a quick passing side. Shotton is pretty much in the same boat - quick and good in the air, but not good enough on the ball. Blackman has only ever been effective on the right of a front 3, but we've already got an expensive senior player who plays there so he struggles to get in the team. We haven't seen enough of Camara, but he looks like a 'get to the byline and cross it' type of winger, but we don't get players into the box that score from crosses, so there's no point playing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 4 hours ago, duncanjwitham said: The problem isn't that we sign players and drop them, the problem is we sign players who are either worse than we have already, or not suited to the way we are playing, and the dropping etc happens because of this. Albentosa is a big, physical defender, but not great on the ball, so he didn't fit in with a quick passing side. Shotton is pretty much in the same boat - quick and good in the air, but not good enough on the ball. Blackman has only ever been effective on the right of a front 3, but we've already got an expensive senior player who plays there so he struggles to get in the team. We haven't seen enough of Camara, but he looks like a 'get to the byline and cross it' type of winger, but we don't get players into the box that score from crosses, so there's no point playing him. Sums up the problem with our transfer policy perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 11 hours ago, richinspain said: Maybe Rowett could sign all our deadwood before he becomes our new head coach hmm , now there's a thought , Mel !! , You listening ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-Rams-defender-Ryan-Shotton-targeting/story-29088912-detail/story.html http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-looking-ryan-shotton-11170118 Sounds like a permanent move to the Brum is set for Shotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Good. Good for us, good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 If he's got any brains he'll follow Rowett wherever he ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: If he's got any brains he'll follow Rowett wherever he ends up. Which could be here, if a fair few Rams fans have their way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1946 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Birmingham City have spoken to Derby County about the possibility of Ryan Shotton returning to St Andrew's on a permanent basis, the Birmingham Mail understands. The 27-year-old returned to the iPro at the end of last season having finished the campaign on loan with Blues. Having recently appointed Nigel Pearson as their manager the Rams are currently assessing their squad which means they have first say on Shotton's immediate future. However, if they decide the centre back is surplus to requirements it is understood Shotton would like to come back to Blues to work under Gary Rowett . And it seems Blues are amenable too having contacted their Championship rivals about his availability. Shotton played nine times and scored once following his January move across the Midlands . http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-make-contact-championship-11443468? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, Sammy1946 said: Birmingham City have spoken to Derby County about the possibility of Ryan Shotton returning to St Andrew's on a permanent basis, the Birmingham Mail understands. The 27-year-old returned to the iPro at the end of last season having finished the campaign on loan with Blues. Having recently appointed Nigel Pearson as their manager the Rams are currently assessing their squad which means they have first say on Shotton's immediate future. However, if they decide the centre back is surplus to requirements it is understood Shotton would like to come back to Blues to work under Gary Rowett . And it seems Blues are amenable too having contacted their Championship rivals about his availability. Shotton played nine times and scored once following his January move across the Midlands . http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-make-contact-championship-11443468? And some of you wanted Rowett as manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Seems a good for all parties move so unless Pearson really likes him, I'm sure something can be done. Don't think he's as bad as some make out, but hardly on my "must keep list" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 hour ago, richinspain said: And some of you wanted Rowett as manager! He can only work with what he has and that's within a tight budget at brum at the moment and although he is not good enough for us or probably any other top 5 side, he's certainly good enough for this league, depending on the aspirations of the club. If he was derby manager and had a good kitty he wouldn't be interested in him. Not Rowetts fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Let him go for a few hundred grand then move on. He will be on decent wages but he must be 6th or 7th in line for a CB place so best for everyone to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 hour ago, mwram1973 said: He can only work with what he has and that's within a tight budget at brum at the moment and although he is not good enough for us or probably any other top 5 side, he's certainly good enough for this league, depending on the aspirations of the club. If he was derby manager and had a good kitty he wouldn't be interested in him. Not Rowetts fault Shotton, just like Sammon, isn't nearly as bad as some on here make out. As you say, probably not good enough for where we want to be but not nearly as bad as all that. Have you seen my avatar? When I think that things couldn't get any worse I look at that photo and think how it could be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Shotton will prove to be a good centre half in this division. Regular football and knowing his limitations, he will be fine.Good solid centre half that got in Pulis' team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Decent steady player who can cover several defensive positions, sell if the deal is right but don't leave ourselves open if a stack load depart ? ( albantosa, Pearce, baired, Buxton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 3 hours ago, richinspain said: And some of you wanted Rowett as manager! Rowett obviously prefers what his eyes and instinct tells him, rather than a performance analysis unit(or variation of) tell him on such as number of passes completed etc. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 29 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Rowett obviously prefers what his eyes and instinct tells him, rather than a performance analysis unit(or variation of) tell him on such as number of passes completed etc. Just saying Is he a Jedi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconram Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I agree with the minority, I would keep Shotton he's not a favourite of mine but he's the best of a reserve bunch.He can be used anywhere across the back ,full back left n right or at centre back.Sell Pearce,Baird,Buxton,Albantossa and if rumours are right fozzy could be gone then he fits the bill.We have Rawson and Lowe pushing, we would need another to cover but think of the reduction in wages by releasing 5 to go and put towards a decent striker.He may be on a good wage but he may just be worth keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 15 hours ago, Rammeister said: Is he a Jedi? These are not the centrebacks you're looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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