Uptherams Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Not sure why people can't be happy for him, regardless of opponents, he still has to score. You can make arguments about who's been better, Lineker, Charlton or whatever, but they all played in England sides more successful than this current side. There's been constant pressure on Rooney since he was 17 and a lot of players could easily have crumbled.Now he's the all time scorer it's not congratulating him for it, it's arguing about him only scoring against weaker sides or how many would he have without penalties etc, who cares? We've all witnessed a piece of English footballing history that should stand for many, many years to come. Well done Wayne.Who isn't happy for him? Who is comparing him to players from past generations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uptherams Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Seriously though. How many top teams are in this list? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-up-49-england-6402669 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Who isn't happy for him? Who is comparing him to players from past generations? Posts in this thread and the England v Switzerland thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The 29-year-old forward also said he would swap all his international goals to have won a major tournament with his country. amen , to that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I guess my only issue with it is that my brain won't allow me to accept a scally, shrek-looking **** to be the heroic top scorer for England. So my brain will now rewrite history and forget about every time I've called him a scally, shrek-looking ****, and instead paint him as a glorious knight in shining armour, single handedly propping up a fairly crappy England team for 13 years. I guess it's easier for me to put someone like Charlton on a pedestal because I wasn't around when he was playing. Nor was the celebrity culture as much. So I don't know about his every little foible. And even Charlton couldn't just go bald gracefully, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carra Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Congrats wazza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Top England scorer of all time? Yes!Best English striker of his generation? Yes!World class? No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Seriously though. How many top teams are in this list? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-up-49-england-6402669Holland ,Brazil ,and Argentina I'd say they are top teams. Seriously top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I think we should look to take some affirmative action whereby we best ensure that minority footballers who look like potatoes are given every opportunity to be considered as candidates for inclusion within world class circles. I think we should call it the Rooney Rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Holland ,Brazil ,and Argentina I'd say they are top teams. Seriously top teams. So what about the rest of the goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Seriously though. How many top teams are in this list? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-up-49-england-6402669you should have a look at Bobby Charltons list....! Hat-tricks against teams like Switzerland, USA. Mexico (when they were total whipping boys and we beat them by 8.!) (Rooney hasn't hit a hat trick yet I don't think?)we have always played some rubbish opposition, you can only score against who is in front of you...and Wayne has done that more often than anyone else ever...he is the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Well done Wayne... Fantastic achievement... I'm sure the press and the social media hierarchy are screaming into there CAPS LOCK as we speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 you should have a look at Bobby Charltons list....! Hat-tricks against teams like Switzerland, USA. Mexico (when they were total whipping boys and we beat them by 8.!) (Rooney hasn't hit a hat trick yet I don't think?)we have always played some rubbish opposition, you can only score against who is in front of you...and Wayne has done that more often than anyone else ever...he is the greatest. Same opinion if he'd played for the reds in his home town instead of Manchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Same opinion if he'd played for the reds in his home town instead of Manchester?yep, totally...if Owen had been injury free and stayed at that flea put I think he would have smashed all records ever..... Cant argue with the numbers...Wayne is the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Muespach hit the nail on the head; People are going on like Charlton only ever played against Argentina, Brazil, Germany and Spain. It's ridiculous. I also hate the statement that Rooney can't be considered a great because he's never won anything with England. Baffles me.I will say Rooney got lucky due to Owen's injury record, otherwise he would have set the bar above 60 goals. Nevertheless, he deserves the plaudits. He's one of England's best ever players, no doubt about that. None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The majority of his 50 England goals which have taken him 13 years have come against distinctly not world class opposition.He is not the player he was a few years ago and Manchester United are not the team they were.World Class? No, there are only a handful of players that fit into this category and Rooney is not one of them.A world class salary for a class player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 very overrated tbh. i'd rather have hector, charlie george, deano...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I don't know why some people need to snipe and denigrate. Why not congratulate him on a wonderful achievement and leave it at that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Muespach hit the nail on the head; People are going on like Charlton only ever played against Argentina, Brazil, Germany and Spain. It's ridiculous. I also hate the statement that Rooney can't be considered a great because he's never won anything with England. Baffles me.I will say Rooney got lucky due to Owen's injury record, otherwise he would have set the bar above 60 goals. Nevertheless, he deserves the plaudits. He's one of England's best ever players, no doubt about that. None. Then I don't know why they are quoting and replying to me. I haven't mentioned Charlton once. My argument is Rooney is not world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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