Gisby

Exactly this ... how the argument that all 3 should suffer the same consequences when 2 out of the 3 could continue to fulfil their employment contract but the 3rd could not simply confounds me!!!! I’ll never be convinced of this argument as it is not logical ?‍♂️

??? .... I don’t but they weren’t sacked. I thought we were debating that all 3 should have suffered the same punishment. What’s being fined got to do with it ?? Keogh wasn’t fined he was sacked when he wouldn’t accept the clubs offer. Don’t get you’re point. 

Exactly this ... how the argument that all 3 should suffer the same consequences when 2 out of the 3 could continue to fulfil their employment contract but the 3rd could not simply confounds me!!!! I’ll never be convinced of this argument as it is not logical ?‍♂️

Exactly this ... how the argument that all 3 should suffer the same consequences when 2 out of the 3 could continue to fulfil their employment contract but the 3rd could not simply confounds me!!!! I’ll never be convinced of this argument as it is not logical ?‍♂️

Exactly this ... how the argument that all 3 should suffer the same consequences when 2 out of the 3 could continue to fulfil their employment contract but the 3rd could not simply confounds me!!!! I’ll never be convinced of this argument as it is not logical ?‍♂️

£2.3m?  Blimey, I bet that made his eyes bulge!
 
Money in the bank, or living a long and prosperous retirement as a DCFC legend?
I know which one I'd have chosen... but then I guess we are made from different stock!
Personally, I hope we all get another chance to see him "Cry on the telly".  I'll laugh my gonads off, if we do!  From club hero to absolute zero, in my eyes, at least.
 
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  
 
 
EDIT:
My thoughts and opinions on this subject have always been... and remain... solely based on morality, not legalities.  
The law, as we know, is an ass... which is quite ironic, considering the subject matter is Richard Keogh... or Keeyore, as I will now call him!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   (In case he missed the first one!)

Can we now use 'Keogh' as a swear filter, like 'Gibson' and 'Bamford'. It could be for when we want to call someone a reprehensible, money-grabbing, back-stabbing knobber, or something like that.

Mel bought the club when you were 14, what concerns could you have possibly had? 

????? righto

It’s pointless arguing the toss over legal and financial matters .We simply don’t have the full story from either point of view but it is - to me at least - evidence that the EFL is a toxic organisation that allows itself to be swayed by loud voices rather than logical analysis. It does not serve its members, there are too many partisan camps. It doesn’t garner respect. It is contemptible.
They resoundingly lost the original argument but pursued, vindictively, (at who’s behest ? ) some sort of vengeance or face saving, based on a technicality, to justify their ineptitude and save face. Yuk ! 

They can’t .. because they don’t know either. They are also not going to say anything substantive when they need an investor and want to keep the ship as stable as possible. They won’t say all is well when it clearly isn’t (that stands across the entire championships) and they aren’t going to “help we are in the poo” because that means as sellers they put themselves at a huge disadvantage. 
Nothing in life is guaranteed. This is a business like any other. Quite apart from the mess that is football finances in the lower leagues, we have had an international pandemic. I think it is credit to the whole club for keeping the ship going so far. To demand an unbreakable promise of reassurance from “Daddy” lacks logic. It isn’t going to happen and it isn’t the fault of any one individual. 

I would suggest I am not shy of stating my opinion, rather than ‘outspoken’. ?
Rooney should never have been signed as a player. Another lousy Morris ‘profile’ arrangement. Anyone who saw him perform in the MLS could see he was still skilful, but had the legs of Devon Lock. His signing immediately put Cocu in difficulty, and made hits position pretty untenable. Cocu’s vulnerability was further fuelled by Rooney, his agent and his mates. We would have finished higher this season in my opinion if Cocu had stayed, and been able to use Bielik and Kaz, and make a few more (loan) signings in January. Cocu had too many coaches foisted upon him with Rooney and Rosenior. He should have been allowed to rely on his usual 2 mates - the quiet one with the dark hair, and the curly haired one who smiled and hugged a lot.
Anyway, Rooney got the management gig, and was not allowed to select his own support team. Meddling Mel thinking initially that management by committee was a great thing, and also that some bloke who is keen on Newcastle might help lurking iat the back of the stand. Rooney however committed himself fully to the task, and dealt reasonably well with the cards dealt to him, and the setbacks of losing Curt, Bielik, and many others during the last 6 months. His loan signings were all pretty ok in January, but again his luck wasn’t in with injuries. Obviously a bit tactically naive, but he gave opportunities to a lot of our youth, and at the end of the day kept us in the league, when a great many in November/December were convinced we were going down. He did so with players demotivated by not being paid, all the off pitch drama, and and with many senior pros at the end of their contract and not likely to get any renewal with the financing uncertainty.
Rooney hasn’t as yet evidenced that he has his own preferred style, but he has very good contacts which hopefully will mean he will secure that players in the next few month he wants, to play the way he wants. In my book he has just about done enough to justify another season to see if he can use those contacts, and also put into practice the knowledge he would have gained from hist time under Fergusson, Jose, Van Gaal, etc. I would push Rosenior out (nice bloke, deserves his own management job in the first or second division), etc., and get a decent experienced number two, and not one who has hair issues and likes to use an umbrella to keep himself dry. 

"We want communication from the club, we demand communication from the club, we deserve communication from the club, we are entitled to communication from the club"
*communication from the club*
"Actions speak louder than words"
Some of our fans deserve nothing.

I don't understand the negativity towards the statement, its basically saying i know its not been good enough, but we will endevour to make it right, watch this space.
Seems fine by me, obviously today is not the time for going into specifics, but acknowledging the fact its not good enough is a positive statement in my opinion.
I feel better having read that than if they hadnt posted anything at all.

This conclusively proves that some fans will moan about anything and everything ?

I like that. Now, we know talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words but I’m pleased that someone thought it a good idea to put that out.
I’m very pleased the efforts of those at the ground yesterday was recognised. Hey, maybe that’s why the players went outside after the game, not for finishing 22nd, to thank the supporters for their encouragement. Who’d be embarrassed by that ? ?‍♂️

You know, I was going to say, “a classy statement - accepting this year hasn’t been acceptable, recognising the fans and offering an apology” and wondering how long it would take for someone to post a negative view. It seems to have taken you less than a minute.

Kevin hector ,Bruce rioch, Roger davies, not forgetting  Roy Mac and Archie gemmil oh the list could go on  ,a guy by the name of Charlie George didn't do bad .My childhood was certainly blessed with heroic talented players 

Probably not the the right thread but there have been about 50 cases in Derby in the past week and 1 death. 
Might be time to start enjoying life again ?

I don't begrudge the players a bit of fun with the fans today at all.
We are  relieved, they must also be so relieved. I think they've missed us more than we have missed them. 
They are just young lads who have been under a tremendous amount of pressure. 
Thete will be time to sort it all out, some will be casualties of the awful season we've had, but they should enjoy themselves tonight.

Its a difficult one and i know exactly where you are coming from, but in the heat of the moment having been on the ride we have been on today i think we can, or at least i can, allow them a little celebration.
It is crap and staying up on 44 points relying on others is not what we should be celebrating, but phew....im happy more out of relief than achieving something today.

I take that back. "All we ask" means that we will accept any outcome, as long as the players give their all.

Me and little miscreant are with you in spirit chaps.....he's on full alert ?
 

Thank you very much, really does mean a lot.
It really is a very strange place to be, you realise you dont truly understand what someone must go through until you go through it yourself.
We will get through it.