Bob The Badger

I think we should take this to the stand up thread @ramit and @BaaLocks it's a good conversation but I think we're hijacking a really good thread.

Of course, it's only a good thread in my opinion. All threads are subjective and their goodness, or lack thereof, is entirely down to the perspective of the individual.

12 minutes ago, CornwallRam said:

It just feels like a massive cloud has lifted. A proper bidder with actual money willing to save our club.

David Clowes is my new hero?

COYR

I have no doubt we'll be calling him David Clown inside 6 months, but for now let us rejoice and be merry.

1 hour ago, BaaLocks said:

But when you tell a joke that suggests it was a 'unforessen bonus' that Gypsies died in the Holocaust there is a pretty slim chance you're going to convince me that is not anti-Gypsy.

A LOT of people are now aware of what happened to the Gypsies on the back of that joke.

And it was the brutal punchline that had lead to the awareness.

If Carr were anti-Gypsy, or trying to find a way of humiliating/offending the Gypsies then the joke wouldn't have worked. It only worked because it's so absurd.

Similarly, if it was genuinely anti-Gypsy he'd have lost the friendship of many comedians. And whereas a few friends like David Baddiel didn't like it, none came out and said they didn't like it because it exposed Jimmy Carr as a racist.

6 hours ago, BaaLocks said:

I thought the "career enders" in the last Jimmy Carr special were sincerely regrettable.

I saw him do that live last November and thought it was brilliant.

I also thought it was funny that it took 6 weeks for mainstream righteous indignation to erupt after it went live on Christmas Day.

If you know anything about Carr and how he writes you'll know he was using humour to highlight a dreadful part of human history that frequently gets ignored, swept under the carpet or is unknown about because of an even worse part of human history.

That's really good comedy writing (to me) because great comedy can inform whilst making you laugh.

I'm sure a few people laughed because they thought the joke was anti-Gypsy.It clearly wasn't.

I have no problem anybody finding something unfunny because comedy is 100% subjective.

But I have a problem when people start deciding where the line should be drawn on what constitutes humour based on their personal sensibilities.

On 21/06/2022 at 10:46, Stive Pesley said:

I saw it - the least funny "stand up comedy" show I've ever seen

None of the jokes were actually intended to be funny - they were just intended to annoy people for effect

Nice work if you can get it I suppose, but I preferred him when he was a comedian and not just a provocateur

I thought it was outstanding and laughed a lot. 

8 hours ago, PistoldPete said:

we have anal language students too. 

Is anal language the opposite of clean language?

23 hours ago, Rev said:

4 episodes in, and Sherwood is as good as anything I've watched recently. 

Whip sharp writing that's attracted a cast where literally everyone is a well known actor, I can't recall a better ensemble in a British drama ever.

We're 4 episodes in too and I think the cast is hurting it. It's like they literally refused to hire anybody who you're not likely to recognise from something or other. I'm finding it distracting tbh.

And it's not like their stellar actors, David Morrissey and Lesley Manville notwithstanding, but rather competent.

I want to see where the story goes and I'd say it's ok, but compared to things like Time and First Responder, it's not even close to that level of acting or scriptwriting imho.

 

15 hours ago, Eddie said:

Fargo (Netflix).

The blackest of black comedy - right up my street.

Billy Bob Thornton was chilling as the baddie (can't remember which season it was).

I missed the 4th season as it came out around the time we were moving back here but I've heard a bunch of people like @Stive Pesley say it was less than stellar.

Finished Bosch Legacy and to be honest I think spellchecker was on the ball when it tried to just change it ro borsch. I'd rather have drank a cauldron of borsch. Super disappointing. 

I haven't read the entire thread, so apologies if it has been mentioned.

But, if public opinion had been listened to, Sir Alf before the 66 World Cup would have been sacked, as would Bobby Robson and El Tel before their tournament (s).

Ramsay got lucky with the injury to a great striker in Greaves, and then stuck to his guns

Robson got lucky twice in 86. With the injury to Brian Robson and then the sending off of Ray Wilkins forcing him to play Lineker and Beardsley together. 

And Venables wasn't even planning on taking Gascoigne until right at the last minute.

I've no clue if Southgate is the right man, but changing him now would be ridiculous.

Chris wondering what to invest his savings in now. 

Into the 3rd episode of Bosch Legacy and a bit disappointed tbh.

This one reminds me more of Bosch season 1 than the later ones.  I'm struggling to accept his daughter as a cop. I'm not sure if it's that the role doesn't fit the character that has developed over the year, that she's not a great actor, or that she just doesn't look like an L.A. cop.

It's ok, but having paused Spiral in between season 3 and 4 I'm looking forward to going back.

7 hours ago, Mucker1884 said:

Kirchner is only 8 letters, and still folk struggle!  ?

This was his grandfather I think.

8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

This thread is now at 5m views... 5 times the number of views the famous George Thorne thread had.

...Or 50% of the way to all the Chris Martin threads combined ?

If everybody threw in £4 a view we could buy the club. 

Got to see Stewart Lee do his back to back sets (Tornado and Snowflake) at Hall for Cornwall (best comedy venue I have been to since the Improv in Orlando) on Saturday.

I concur with @ariotofmyown, brilliant.

Since I moved back I've seen Jimmy Carr, Frank Skinner and Jonathan Pie, Lee was better than them all. And they were all good.

His writing is so clever and his use of call backs second to none.

I'm not sure how well Dave Chappelle is known over here but. he is HUGE in the US. Lee's impersonation and takedown of him was brilliant and hysterical. I shall never look at the juice from a rotisserie chicken in the same way.

And the last sketch from the first set about sharks in an Alan Bennett voice had my cheeks hurting I was laughing that much.

He's deeply political, irreverent and gives no ducks about upsetting people. I doubt there were many Tory voters there on Saturday. At least there and laughing. 

Mrs Badger wasn't keen on him going after Ricky Gervais and Jimmy Carr as she likes both of them. But so do I and I think it's fine. I don't think they are any less funny because Stewart Lee doesn't care for them.

10/10.

19 hours ago, ketteringram said:

Saw Top Gun Maverick last night. I'd meant to get to it earlier, on the local IMAX screen, but had left it too late , as it's been replaced by the latest Jurassic thingy.

So instead, I saw it on a screen X , where the picture is also on the side walls as well as the screen. That was a waste of time, and added nothing. Though possibly it would be better if viewed from the back row. 

Was pretty bored through the film . It's a while since I saw the original, and this seemed nowhere near as good. Maybe that's just rose tinted specs . I need to re watch the first one.

I don't mind suspending belief at the door sometimes, but this was nuts.

Loved the flying scenes though ! As good, if not better than I was expecting.

My take 100%. Dreadful plodding script with some brilliant actions scenes. Glad I saw it at the cinema rather than on TV though.

On 09/06/2022 at 14:16, 86 Hair Islands said:

Hustle (2022)*- Adam Sandler in another 'serious' role after finding acclaim for Uncut Gems, this time playing a basketball scout / coach whose career hits the skids. In some ways a fairly stock story, but without perhaps knowing why, I really enjoyed it. 

Matej Vydra / 10

*Netflix

I have that earmarked to watch. I thought he was brilliant in Uncut Gems even if it wasn't very uplifting!

2 minutes ago, angieram said:

Nixon is not trying to suggest anything underhand, it's you who has been putting a negative slant on it with every post.

RoyMac5 being negative? 

40 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

(^^^^ out of context but used to introduce my point vvvv)

When does the LVIV Golf event finish?

I wonder whether a big Unveiling / Press Conference involving Kirchner, Rooney and some marquee League 1 signing will be scheduled for tomorrow. After all, CK is in the country.

@Owen87ITK have you been placed on standby?

No, they unplugged him entirely.

Are we all getting paid for being extras in an episode of Ted Lasso?

2 hours ago, I am Ram said:

Bosch Legacy is very good, 10 episodes based on the book 'two kinds of truth'. I watched it on freevee (amazon)

Did you watch all the other seasons of Bosch? I really wasn't arsed about the first one but stuck with it and it got a lot better and became excellent.

And what is free view? I saw that, but have never noticed it before on Amazon. Does that mean even people with Prime have to labour through ads? Because I presume you can't fast forward through them like a recording. 

49 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

I travel to the USA a lot and it’s a different creature and sometimes a right cheek - yes I tip 10-15% and yes it affects my purchases - will I order a bottle of wine which will generally be $60 ? Not when when they want to stick tax of 8.1% on top then want 15-20% of that amount on top  as well - Tap water tastes nicer ! 

I'm guessing you visit California as that has the highest taxation, but sales tax there is still *only* 7.25%.

Most states are considerably less. Florida where I lived was 6% and whereas it caught me out a few times early on, you soon get used to adding it in your head. 

Their sales tax is equivalent to our VAT, so it's clearly a LOT lower, it's just that thee separate the two out which can be confusing. 

I think it's more a cheek for us to go to a foreign country and expect them to do it our way than for them to stick with how they do it.

As has already been discussed in the thread, minimum wage in the US includes expected tips, so owners can pay as little as around $2 per hour (and do) knowing that the servers will still get paid. If people then only tipped if they got great service the system would collapse.

I knew a fair few tight people over there, but I never went out with anybody who didn't tip 15%. Seriously, never. It's just part of life. And the reason they sometimes add a service charge if there are more than say 4 or 6 people, is because they know if they don't tips will plummet.

Having worked part time in my sisters restaurant for a decade we used to dread large tables for that very reason. People either forget to tip, think others will or just see it as a way of being a miserable git and save some cash.

Also, as I mentioned (and you must know if you visit often) almost everywhere in the US the tip is listed independently on the check and it has to go to the wait staff. There's nothing like the risk of an unscrupulous owner thieving it like there can be over here.

Prior to moving back we'd eat out 2 or 3 times per month and I've never paid $60 for a bottle of wine in the 14 years of living there (including a few trips to LA. and San Francisco). $30 or even occasionally $40 for sure, but you must be eating in some very nice places or like fine wine to be paying that.

3 hours ago, Rammeister said:

Here’s something from todays Times, that I thought was worth sharing:-

‘If Southgate picks Phil Foden tomorrow he will hope the Manchester City player remains a lucky charm: he is the first player since Roy McFarland in 1971-73 to remain unbeaten in his first 15 England appearances while winning as many as 13 of those games.’

I can imagine the bemused looks on peoples faces as they Google ‘RoyMcFarland’ and find out Derby apparently had a player in the England team back then.

 

I think they'd be more surprised that we had 2 in the starting XI for England against Germany in the Italia 90 semi-final when Gazza burst into tears.

2 Derby players in a World Cup semi ffs for England!!!

It gives me a semi just thinking about it.

5 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

When I'm on holiday ditto I tipped the tour guide whom showed me round Pompeii recently as I thought he had delivered an extremely informative and interactive session.

I took a picture of the guide after you tipped him and had turned to walk away.

3 hours ago, PistoldPete said:

Paying tips by cash goes down well with waiting staff. Just adding it to the bill you don’t know where the money goes. 

I don't think i've not seen it over here yet, although I'm sure it's available. But in the US almost every bill has the option to add the tip as a separate item so you know the servers will get it.

My guess is that by doing it that way the owner can also show he's hitting minimum hourly wage and he won't be taxed on it.

We used to go into The Cheesecake Factory in Orlando almost every Sunday in the autumn. I'd go and have a beer and watch the early games of (American) football whilst Mrs Badger went shopping. I got to be friendly with two of the regular bar staff. Both were on almost $100k, and that was a decade or more ago. Butt hey worked their nuts off for it and made it a super pleasurable experience. I never tipped them less than 20%. 

3 hours ago, Norman said:

Do you tip the checkout workers or the bin men or anyone else on close to the minimum wage? 

They collect your plates and ask if you want sauces. Why you'd tip that is beyond me. It's an American pile of crap that comes from them not paying a proper wage to waiting staff over there. 

I gave my postie £20 at Christmas because he's brilliant and I appreciate the fact that he's friendly and super helpful. I've never met our bin men to be fair because we have to leave it on the road and I've never met them. I have had to clear up burst bags on occasionas, but not sure whose fault that was.

But if they did come and fetched it and gave great service and were friendly, I probably would tip them once a year.

I also gave the guy who patched up my car when I nearly pulled the back bumper off when I got it stuck on a low wall. I couldn't believe he only charged me £40 so I gave him £50 and told him to keep the change. 

I always tip tradespeople if they are pleasant and do a good job, but I'd make an exception for @boycie obviously.

But you're right, I don't tip cashiers at the Supermarket and would feel weird doing so.

And fwiw, it's not an American thing, it's an English thing that Americans have got slightly carried away with.