Bob The Badger

Sweet!

2 hours ago, Chester40 said:

I'm 100% sure of that...just because of the extraordinary nature and my initial cynicism. 

Almost everybody is 100% sure of their own flash bulb memories and there is always a because....

That is the very nature of them and why scientists are so intrigued by them.

2 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

I don’t think the brain rewrites history, it’s just that our memory can’t cope with all the fine details of everything we have experienced or seen. Unless, as @JoetheRam says, it’s something we had a personal involvement in, the brain probably only stores the key information. For example, at the time of 9-11 I was working in Wales but I couldn’t tell you which of my branches I was visiting. If you forced me to come up with an answer I’d make an educated guess but might well get it wrong. With regard to the Challenger disaster, well that was obviously a major event in history but where people were and what they were doing when they heard the news is pretty insignificant really (unless it was noteworthy or unusual in it’s own right) and not necessarily worth taking up space in our mid to long term memory.

Even with personal experiences, we might only remember the key bits. Referring back to Joe’s scenario again, we might remember who we had our first real kiss with and might swear blind it was behind the bike sheds at school. It might turn out there has never been a bike shed at that school but, in the scheme of things, where the kiss took place is relatively unimportant in most cases unless it was particularly unusual again.

With regard to things like people claiming to have attended the Beatles first gig, there are two other things at play. Firstly they may just be trying to show off by making a claim that can’t really be disproved. Secondly, there is always a chance they thought the gig they went to was the Beatles first when, in actual fact, it wasn’t.

The brain struggles tremendously to accept when it gets things wrong because it's an existential threat. As such it will delete things, change things and refuse to remember things.

Nobody does this knowingly, but the brain is in permanent survival mode and it will do what it needs, which is why it will often shut down memories of trauma.

Scientists literally describe it as rewriting history.

I'm not smart, I'm just regurgitating what I read.

I'm not saying that where we were when certain events happened has any importance, it was just an example of how memory is very fragile. 

And of course you're right that people brag and make crap up to look good. I'm not disputing that in the least. Again it was merely an example, that some people will genuinely think that.

My wife and her mum were once arguing about the origins of a butter knife.

I told my mother-in-law about how we often get memories wrong to which she nodded her head and said (and I kid you not) yes I know that, but I know this is true because I can remember it.

Anybody seen the Manti Te'o two-parter on Netflix yet?

Fascinating.

I was living over there when it broke, but could only remember the fake girlfriend bit.

The guy comes out of it as an outstanding human being.

The twist at the end of part one was jaw-dropping and nobody will see it coming.

14 minutes ago, JoetheRam said:

This reads like someone trying to convince the forum to question their entire reality.

This reads like it was written by someone who tries to see stuff that isn't there.

On 10/08/2022 at 15:52, David said:

Liverpool and Celtic.

Old picture of @David

You can now start a thread for posters you most despise for me and @Andrew1 because I too like Liverpool for the same reasons.

Rather spookily, Blackpool is my other team, but that's because my mum was from Blackpool and whereas she became and ardent Derby season ticket holder we'd always look out for Blackpool's results.

Also Plymouth when they're not in the same division as us. Originally because of the support they brought to the BBG when we won promotion, but it's remained as they are now my *local* team.

@Elwood P Dowdwondered why we only tended to remember the sunny days from school holidays as a kid and said I do wonder if good memories are made permanent by going through the memories over time.

And yeah we do.

We have almost no totally accurate long term memories.  We just remember little bits and then unconsciously stitch them together with presumptions of what we think probably happened.

There's been a lot of research done into memories and the most interesting/alarming is what are referred to as flash bulb memories.

These are the memories of highly specific events, and the ones that we are often the most sure about.

Well, (statistically speaking) 30% of those memories you hold are wrong entirely and 70% will be inaccurate in some degree.

One of the worlds leading experts in memory (can't remember his name and he's dead anyway so he can't help me out in this conversation) had a very clear memory of listening to a baseball game with his father when it was interrupted with the announcement of the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Only when he checked, there were no games in that December because the baseball season runs from March to October. He still struggled to accept it even when he knew it was false.

The day after the Challenger disaster they got a load of people (can't remember the sample size - my memory sucks) to write down where they were and what they were doing when they heard.

Only 5 years later they went back to ask them again and almost nobody could answer accurately. One woman got it utterly wrong placing her in a different town with different people. When shown her signed account she said her signature must have been forged.

And whereas she is somewhat of an outlier, not by that much.

We all have scores of false memories but they are incredibly difficult to challenge and the more we think about the false memory the more we embed it and the more sure of it we become.

This is why you get 5,000 people claiming to have attended the first Beatles gig, nobody admitting they thought Nick Pickering was a great signing or even @Eatonram denying he wore a full wet suit playing for Elton one time because there was a light drizzle, not because people are necessarily lying, but because that is what they *remember*.

Our brains literally rewrite history on the fly.

Where were you when you heard about 9/11 and more to the point, can you accept that some, or even a large part of that memory is in accurate?

Personally, I was with Lady Di watching Derby beat Forest in the cup final at Wembley prior to flying to Vegas to see Elvis' last gig. What a day that was.

On 17/08/2022 at 14:58, Elwood P Dowd said:

When you look back at the six week summer holidays, when you were young, you only remember the sunny days, the rainy days are completely forgotten.?

I do wonder if good memories are made permanent by going through the memories over time, I suppose the same could be said about very bad memories. We probably remember both ends of the memory scale, good and bad, and lose the bits in the middle. 

That's almost exactly how they are made, I'm going to start a memory thread!

That we're getting 4,500 tickets to Bolton. And Forest  are getting 4,000 for Old Traffird although they'll probably only sell 500 and there's only one train serving the line. 
if it true, what could possibly go wrong?

8 hours ago, Andrew1 said:

I think that someone on here said at the start of the season that being a big club will make us a fine scalp for smaller ones like Shrewsbury and Fleetwood.  Taking a point off Derby even at home will seem like a win for many of them, so parking the bus and spending most of the game defending like hell will suit them just fine.  The teams wanting to be in the top half by next May won’t do that, and the games will have a different dimension to them…

Any bus parking will be based on expected form. If Derby slide then it won't be necessary because their level will be est lashed like it was for Sunderland, Pompey and to a lesser extent, Wednesday. 

18 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

One worry for me is that Shrewsbury, Charlton and Fleetwood are far from the cream of the division and we’ve got 2 points from 9.

It makes no sense to cherry pick like that, in the same way as it would make no sense for me to say, Oxford and Barnsley, maximum points, we have no worries.

You have to look at the totality because that is how a season is played even if supporters prefer to look for patterns/similarities/problems etc.

2 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said:

Once she Started...did she Finish ?

I wonder if she likes to Nordic.

At the next election

9 hours ago, Rev said:

Just finished the second series of Succession.  

Wow, what a show. 

 

The 3rd is even better I would say.

@Wolfie20 with regard to Spiral, it's still very good. I'll drop stuff in a Colin Todd second if I'm not enjoying it, but will have no hesitation going into season 7.

13 hours ago, Srg said:

Spelling ?

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To be honest I'd only give Spelling 4.5.

He doesn't demand the ball enough, is easily robbed of possession and I haven't seen him kiss his badge once.

Desperately needed a full pre-season.

However, the real star for me (and I'm not sucking up because I know he's your favourite) was Pedantry.

A solid 8.5.

He isn't afraid to go after hopeless causes and even though he's not a fan favourite he just gets on with his job..

4 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

Cheer up.  Not healthy brooding over what happened in a previous life.  

Agreed, I was an Austrian vegetarian in a previous life and then didn't turn out well at all.

1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said:

my only concern has been how Laure's boss has gone from bad to good ?. 

I mentioned that to Mrs Badger last night, he's an even nicer guy in 6.

It's not got bad btw, it's still good. Just that the writing was so freakin' tight before that it feels like the bar has been notched down.

Previously it was set at Olympic final height, now it's more like Commonwealth Games final height.

On 19/07/2022 at 11:37, Wolfie20 said:

Based on positive comments on here I've started watching Spiral and now part way through series 3. It's superb and the Gilou character is brilliant. On BBC i-player and highly recommend it.

Where are you with this @Wolfie20?

I cannot find who it was now, but somebody said they felt it got worse but wasn't sure if they just got subtitle fatigue.

I agree, we are 2/3rd through Season 6 and the writing has noticeably deteriorated.

Still brilliant acting and great little non-stories as per real life, but too many plot flaws and improbable/impossible situations creeping in.

It reminds me a bit of how Line of Duty dropped off.

This is HUGE for crypto shortly after Tiffany announced it was making NFT necklaces. 

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Also, a few days ago Pearson (the book company that charges a fortune for college books) said they’re turning their digital textbooks into NFTs.

CEO Andy Bird explains, "In the analogue world, a Pearson textbook was resold up to seven times, and we would only participate in the first sale."

Now, due to the power of NFTs, they get a piece of the action every time a book trades hands.

On 15/08/2022 at 11:11, Oldben said:

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/tim-clancy-reveals-st-pats-pushed-into-a-corner-over-release-of-on-loan-goalkeeper-joseph-anang-41911114.html

Anang - who signed a loan deal with the Saints from West Ham at the start of the season and went on to play 30 games, keeping 12 clean sheets - sealed his move to Derby County on Sunday evening, after attending the Rams' win over Barnsley on Saturday.

St Patrick’s Athletic seem disappointed to have lost talented Anang, should be good for us.

I see that as a huge red flag.

Unless he as been promised first team football (which he won't have been), is he going to be happier here if he's not playing, than playing any competitive football?

Hopefully he plays, is brilliant, and it's a moot point.

2 hours ago, Crewton said:

Under the general topic of "some people just need a good hard slap to bring them to their senses" I offer this little gem:

https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/08/york-parents-offended-by-new-ride-which-contains-the-word-dick-17147144/

Oh the irony.

But tbf, if I owned the place I'd agree and change the name.

I'd change it to Knob Turpin just to pizz them off some more.

I have a favourite pair of Diesel trainers that are disappointingly starting to look sorry for themselves.

Yet I still find myself wearing them day after day around the house.

Why, don't I save them?

Because even though they are lace ups I can easily slide them on and off without undoing the laces.

With all my other trainers I have to go to the trouble of undoing the laces and I can't be arsed.

I also will continue to wear a pair of jeans that should really go in the wash because taking the belt out and then putting it into the clean pair is a real chore.

and I will also often stare in an irritated way at my laptop screen for hours through smeared glasses because I can't be bothered to open my top drawer and get a lens cloth and cleaner out.

Anybody beat those for sheer unadulterated laziness?