Gee SCREAMER !!

38 minutes ago, Zag zig said:

Unless you have a manager like erm, Wayne Rooney, that instils a never give up attitude. Really do think half of it is down to Managers too and the standards they set, respect they carry.

In any normal season though, with money to burn and payoffs available does Rooney last the end of last season or into the start of this one .What we have this year is some experienced old pros at the tail end who just want to play and a lot of youngsters who look up to him as its Rooney  plus Lawrence and Byrne and its sink or swim for the last 2 years.  If we had Richard Keogh and Jason Shackell it would be round to Uncle Mel to demand someone else Last March.

27 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

So if he’s not gone by tomorrow, it doesn’t sound like the reading players will be making any great effort to save his job.

Another upshot to reading winning is that it could save his job temporarily. It’s only Peterborough, so wouldn’t necessarily mean reading have suddenly become good. But it might mean that the manager gets another couple of games to keep them in the poo. 

To be honest, it really grates on me how players do this, much as it helps us.  Ultimately you go out and play as a team for those paying a lot to watch and your own professionalism .  Look at Forest.  Total dog poo this year till Hughton left.  Look at us under Pearson.  We're not going to play because we don't want to .  To many players like this in football.  

New Ghostbusters film .  Very disappointing.  Otto Bragstaad 3/10

13 minutes ago, Curtains said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10514843/Derby-County-admins-meet-Wycombe-owner-preferred-bidder-expected-week.html

Changed that a little

Couhig has said Derby was guilty of USING A QUANTIFIABLE ACCOUNTING PROCEDURE and Wycombe's claim is that an EFL APPEAL BY KANGAROO COURT AFTER QUALIFIED AUDITORS HAD FOUND NO WRONGDOING  LEAD TO DERBY GETTING AN UNJUSTIFIED  points deduction UNDER DURESS FROM THE EFL WITH A PROMISE IT WOULD SPEED UP A SALE. the Chairboys being relegated from the Championship to League One WAS THEIR OWN FAULT FOR BEING RABBLE AND LETTING ANDRE WISDOM OF ALL PEOPLE SMASH IN AN INJURY TIME WINNER AGAINST THEM, ON TOP OF THE FACT THEY WERE PROMOTED BY DUBIOUS METHODS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT IS ALSO NOTED THAT THE CHAIRBOYS SHOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE A LEAGUE CLUB AFTER BECOMING EMBROILED IN A HIGHLY DUBIOUS PURCHASE OF A STRIKER YEARS AGO WHICH LEAD TO BRITOL ROVERS MAKING A COMPLAINT THAT TODAY WOULD HAVE SEEN THEM PLAYING IN THE VANARAMA DIVISION.  IT IS ALSO NOTED THAT THIS GEEZER WHO PROTESTS ABOUT NO ONE ADDRESSING HIS CLAIM HAS BEEN IN NO RUSH TO SIT DOWN WITH PETERBROUGHS CHAIRMAN AFTER 18 MONTHS WHO IS PISSED OF THAT THE POINTS PER GAME SCENARIO DENIED THEM A PLAYOFF PLACE 

Hope they've brought a ball gag to this meeting.  He talks that much they may die of old age or rack up another 10 million in HMRC interest before he finishes.

Dear QPR, Aston Villa and Bournmouth.

Following our ruse Gibson and myself have now found a legal way to get plenty of dollars from you outside the remit of the EFL.  Derby won't get a dime and I'll get a private island through my new business Morris and Gibson incorporated.  Steves paying for the speedos and cocktails.

56 minutes ago, atherstoneram said:

If Rooneys agent is still part of the Kirchner bids  and he does buy,whether it's Preston or another Championship club i certainly think he will want Rooney as his manager, would suit them both, Rooney is high profile in the US and is seeing what he is doing on a shoestring with us. Rooney because Kirchner will bank role him and raise his profile as a manager. If/when we come out of administration we are still restricted as to what we can do until the business plan comes to an end.

I wouldn't worry about the bank rolling.  The administrators asked for an extra million and he spat his dummy, pulled his bid and lived on twitter.  Alonso two

24 minutes ago, Kernow said:

If it's not going to be them, then it'll be someone else before long. The EFL's legacy ladies and gents.

I hope that should we come through this on the other side, that we rally around and show our support for whoever does end up being next. It's really not nice, and fans mocking our situation clearly don't know how it feels, a bit of unity with another side in trouble would go a long way.

I'm not that magnanimous to every one mate.  I can think of 5 or 6 sides full of self appointed bastions of virtue syndrome i'd love to go through the poo for a year.  Unlike them however, I wouldn't be shouting for their liquidation. 

16 minutes ago, Kernow said:

This season still has the potential to be my favourite in living memory...

The Rams stay up despite a 21 point deduction.

Wycombe finish 7th and don't sell out their car park again for the rest of the season.

Forest drop from 6th to 7th on the last day of the season.

Boro lose the play-off final to a last minute goal following a miscued clearance against a side who have either spent a lot, or have a large wage bill. Bournemouth will do.

We've had that pleasure and no chance it can be as good as the last one. 3 points and a 7 goal swing.  More chance of winning the lottery.

4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

I'm pretty sure transfer values as an accounting method has been recently examined by the EFL in great detail.

Fundamentally, any future transfer value is a risk on the club and can't be considered in the accounts?

We failed FFP because we couldn't sell our players for what we thought we could...that is a commercial risk you took as a club.

If market values have collapsed, it means you can buy cheap to. If your entire model was based on selling in a seller's market, that doesn't deserve special ffp changes, does it now.

We really should sue for offering Martin a contract they couldn't afford.  If he was here we might have another 10 points. Sueeeeeee.......

5 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

I can't think of a comment he could have made that compares it to racism more strongly. 

Other people have committed acts of racism and not lost their jobs, so why should Zouma? 

Is racism worse than animal abuse? Is animal abuse worse? How should we deal with those who commit either? 

Absolutely he was comparing them. 

I would expect he feels racism is worse than animal abuse, and I wouldn't disagree. Should we give stronger punishments for racism than animal abuse? Because if we should, why should Zouma be banned for his actions, like people are calling for? 

Sticky ground here.   if someone is racially abused they can report it or punch someone in the face .  An animal doesn't have that recourse.

He should be banned or put in a room with some 12 foot bloke on steroids to throw him around.  The second one isn't an option unfortunately.

1 minute ago, StaffsRam said:

Boro lose the PO final in injury time when there’s a scramble on the goal line and Jagielka slaps it into the back of the net with his todger.

VAR won't have that

Bristol City bastions of the championship trying to offset FFP failure and fast track changes on the grounds that they could have sold 30 million quids worth of players but for covid .  Jog on cheats.

Under the ownership of billionaire Stephen Lansdown, the West Country club has long been perceived as one of the most financially stable regimes below the Premier League.

However, Richard Gould, the club's chief executive, described to Telegraph Sport how the Covid-inflicted collapse in transfer values in the second tier has cost the club £30 million alone.

The executive has now taken the unprecedented step of warning they could be left with no choice but to take a points deduction next season unless the league fast-tracks reform.

EFL executives are exploring allowances for Covid-losses, but City are among a host of clubs concerned that the increased wiggle room will only cover matchday losses. For most clubs at City's level, a matchday-only saving might allow only around £5m on top of the current £39m upper-loss threshold for losses.

20 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said:

Reading have a player with a triple barrel surname. Don't think I've ever seen that before...

Still the champ

2 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said:

Admins are probably thinking bigger picture - they still only have funding until the end of the month, it's either pay Wycombe £90k to go away and allow a preferred bidder to then take the club on funding wise, or sell another academy player and devalue the club? 

It would have to be Morris.  Doesn't seem at lot on the bigger creditors but it has to be cleared and there's plenty of small ones need a pay out.  It wouldn't be ratified as part of the admin unless it went through a legal process .  I assume Morris is giving him a free holiday in Sandbanks instead.

23 minutes ago, Shuff264 said:

Plenty of free agents this summer, I imagine that will be alot of our shopping

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/GB2

I could pretty much make a team from that first page to get at least get top 6 in this division.  Thankfully for us, it's absolute bobbins at the minute.  I thought Buchanans contract ran to 2023 mind . 

2 minutes ago, Anon said:

IQ doesn't mean bugger all, it is a useful indicator, but you should be suspicious of anyone who trumpets their own IQ score. Generally it is only resorted to in lieu of any actual achievements.

Its strange.  Have a friend of a friend who works in biochemistry and is super clever.  Asked me to explain his self assessment calculation to him .  Simple as you like and he just couldn't get it.  My uncle was diagnosed with a mild form of epilepsy that was causing blackouts  and worked on scaffolding. The consultant couldn't understand why he was asking about whether he should be concerned working 200 foot up in the air on a regular basis. In my experience super brain at some things seems to switch off any common sense at others.  Almost like the brain won't cope with both.

3 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said:

I know. I'm all for principle, but if you'd told me last week that we'd have gone from a total £51m claim and looking like liquidation down to Mel sorting Boro and us chucking £90k at Wycombe to go away I'd have booked the rest of the day off work and gone straight to the pub!

I can't imagine we've had all this  for 99k.  Unless it's been confirmed that he hasn't got a leg to stand on and were just paying some legal team .  If it was deemed he hasn't a leg to stand on mind, I can't see us - or Morris- doing that .  Confused.  

20 minutes ago, hintonsboots said:

Starsky and Hutch, with Gibbo playing Huggy Bear.

Derby Way

Giblitos Way

7 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Accounts were due to be submitted by 31/01/22.
This deadline was then extended with "2-3 days" quoted... a week ago.

The EFL's embargo page hasn't been updated, so these couldn't have been submitted yet. Why not?

Something to do with not sure if accounts would need to include payments to the parasites that's ongoing .  Rough guess.

On 11/02/2022 at 16:46, vonwright said:

Couhig's made some odd noises all the way through this (at some point coming close to suggesting he doesn't expect to actually win any money). But in some ways he a more difficult problem, if a smaller one. I think Gibson had a huge problem with Morris but I think he also understands the value of a club like Derby to the people who live there. Not sure Couhig does (might be doing him a disservice, they do have team sport if America after all...)

On 11/02/2022 at 16:48, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Which seems to be owned by the biggest franchise moving at the drop of a hat unless its Baseball.  It's not the same.

Tonights winners case in point.  This fella needs hammering down straight of the plane .  He won't have any respect for our history, its not in the DNA of American sport.

The Los Angeles Rams are a professional American football team based in the Los Angeles metropolitan area. The Rams compete in the National Football League (NFL) as a member of the National Football Conference (NFC) West division. The Rams play their home games at SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, which they share with the Los Angeles Chargers.

The franchise began in 1936 as the Cleveland Rams, based in Cleveland, Ohio. The club was owned by Homer Marshman and featured players such as William "Bud" Cooper, Harry "The Horse" Mattos, Stan Pincura, and Mike Sebastian.[8] Damon "Buzz" Wetzel joined as general manager.[9] The franchise moved to Los Angeles in 1946 following the 1945 NFL Championship Game victory, making way for Paul Brown's Cleveland Browns of the All-America Football Conference and becoming the only NFL championship team to play the following season in another city. The club played their home games at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum before moving into a reconstructed Anaheim Stadium in Orange County, California, in 1980. The Rams appeared in Super Bowl XIV, following the 1979 NFL season (their first Super Bowl appearance in franchise history), where they lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers 31–19.

The Rams left southern California and moved to St. Louis, Missouri, following the 1994 NFL season, becoming the St. Louis Rams. Five seasons after moving, the team won Super Bowl XXXIV in a 23–16 victory over the Tennessee Titans. The club then played in Super Bowl XXXVI, where they lost 20–17 to the New England Patriots. The Rams played in St. Louis until the end of the 2015 NFL season, when they filed notice with the NFL of their intent to move back to Los Angeles. The club's request was approved at an owners' meeting in January 2016, and the Rams returned to the city for the 2016 NFL season. The Rams appeared in Super Bowl LIII, where they lost to the New England Patriots 13–3 in a rematch of Super Bowl XXXVI.[10][11] Three years later, the Rams lost Super Bowl LVI, against the Cincinnati Bengals.

The club has won three NFL championships, and is the only NFL franchise to win championships representing three cities (Cleveland in 1945, Los Angeles in 1951 and 2022, and St. Louis in 1999).

1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said:

This. I get that the ref was either biased or incompetent in a way that was terrible for us, and that we were very unlucky with own goals and deflections, but the truth remains we are consistently the architects of our own downfall. Yet again, we overplayed at the back in the wrong situation and were punished for it. For all the good he has done in holding the club together in a time of such crisis, we cannot hide from this being a shocking failure of coaching by Rooney and his backroom team. 

When he is asked about his "risk vs reward" mantra he will say he takes full responsibility, it's how he wants the team to play and then he might point to one or two goals we have scored from doing this. Yet over the season so far we must have conceded 15-20 goals from this utterly crazy way of playing. It has to stop.

I think it depends on the quality of defender and there game.  It worked with the occasional error whilst we had a player with natural comfort on the ball and great organisation in Jagielka.  Not so much know with Stearman whose game enough but has nowhere near the technical aptitude and a fullback at centre half now he's missing.  We've let in some terrible goals in the past 5 and yesterday was rumbling in the background.  The problem in conjunction with this of course is that without Richards we can't play it long as Plange won't win anything in the air and we don't have natural wingers to clear it long who can hold it . Give the ball to Bielik deep is the natural out ball and the only option currently if we are going to persist with this but he's still 4 or 5 games from being sharp enough to not be blowing after an hour.  Squad strength is now showing itself as an issue. 

2. The Club has been required to submit, agree and adhere to a budget in accordance with P&S Rules 2.9 and Regulation 16.20 for the remainder of Season 2021/22 and Season 2022/23.

3. The Club and EFL have agreed a cap on Total Player Salary Costs of not more than £21.1m in the current Season, reducing to £16m in the following Season (Championship status), with a number of other conditions, including: 3.1 the Club will be permitted to have registered at any one time no more than 25 Permitted Players; 3.2 the Club will not be permitted to pay or commit to pay any Transfer Fee, Compensation Fee or Loan Fee or any other form of payment (other than a sell on fee) in respect of the registration of any Player in excess of the level as agreed with the EFL; 3.3 the average Salary of all new Contract Players registered from the date of this Agreement until 30 June 2023 will not exceed an average of the level as agreed with the EFL; 3.4 the Salary of any new Contract Player registered from the date of this Agreement until 30 June 2023 will not exceed the level as agreed with the EFL; 3.5 any contribution to fees paid to an Intermediary by the Club on the behalf of a Player will be limited to 3% of the Player’s Basic Gross Income (as defined in the FA Regulations on Working with Intermediaries); 4. In line with the existing EFL embargo pol

Seems may only relate to players, however, point 2 would indicate they can't increase the budget agreed with the EFL so giving Warnock a big fat 3 month contract on top of a payoff to a manager and his backroom team probably isn't a goer.  More likely to be an internal promotion maybe or someone willing to work for less bearing in mind there club salary has to reduce to 16 million next season  from 21 million this season.  We shall see.  Either way we need to win another 8 games to my mind regardless.

1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Been over 20 years now though so I don't see it ever happening. Ironically, I'm pretty sure they beat Scotland (who were the reigning champs at the time) in their first ever game, but that really was as good as it ever got, or ever will get. The win the odd game every few years and folk herald it as a corner turned, but it's always a false dawn and we all know why.

Italian sporting interest is all about football, always has been and always will be. Unless you get the majority of Italian schools playing a full term of rugby as part of the annual sports roster, there'll be no quantum leap forward and a quantum leap is required just for them to challenge. I sound like I'm down rubbishing them, but I'm really not as I really do admire the heart they show, but I just don't see where their game is going. Losing every game is not going to raise the profile of rugby in Italy, after all. 

Frankly, it's all very well the IRB saying they are doing it for the Italian's benefit, but that's pure BS and it really annoys me to hear them trot out that line every year. It's simply another five 6N games with which to fill coffers and if they think they're fooling anyone, then they're only fooling themselves.

I seem to remember a few years back, their was talk of inviting a 6th placed team in the tournament based on European ranking and Georgia were favourites to take over from Italy.  Nothing ever came off it though to my knowledge.

1 hour ago, Rammy03 said:

Oh poo

Daniel Richards@Daniel_Teesside·2hReplying to @SportsPeteOGood hopefully new manager comes in  wins games  and relegated @dcfcofficial

Can't let it go can they.  What a strange town of freaks