Gee SCREAMER !!

Just now, Leeds Ram said:

Not sure his point would be proven given the relatively poor progress from the Russians against stiff Ukrainian resistance. The Russian army at the moment doesn't seem particularly well equipped to deal with an urban warfare scenario or an invasion such as this. If anything atm it's making Russia look weaker than before. 

I'm afraid he'll be utilising the necessary level of armed enforcement to deal with a situation as it arises.  If he needs more feet on the ground to push back any resistance he will.  

14 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

Wasn't he married to the indestructible lady from Heroes? I don't think she was for real though.

Yes, it looked weirdly wrong.  He's about 7ft and she's about 4 and a half.

Well nowts occurring then.  Hopefully 3 points tomorrow.   

My suspicion is that Putin is doing this to indicate how inept NATO would be at actually doing anything of any force should Ukraine join.  Ideally, the paperwork would be fast tracked, Ukraine join today and that gives facility to deploy troops into Ukraine as peacekeepers.  I'm afraid if all that happens is Britain stops Russian billionaires buying property in London and Germany gives them some helmets he can step back from this in a few days with point proven.  

I also firmly believe that this doesn't happen if America have any solid leadership what so ever.  Whenever I see Biden it's almost excruciating.  I'm literally waiting for him to stop reading his autocue and just wonder off randomly to the toilet 

18 minutes ago, Alty_Ram said:

That's the theory and I agree in principle re Watford but what is a big club ? Biggest average crowds ? Most titles won ? Net worth ? That's a 500 post thread right there. For the Sky generation who will they see on TV going toe to toe with Liverpool and Man City on TV on Saturday night ? Not us sadly. It's not just a matter of your crowds or trophies that you won 50 years ago, sooner or later your status needs justifying in the here and now.

I'll go with that plus years in the top division .  I have no other parameter

This bankers back then.  He's actually 30 years old.

Just now, Flying Fokker said:

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  

I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

Ah SISU or the three amigos filtering revenue.  We had a great choice in 2005 on our previous 20 year regular administration issue.  We're actually 3 years early

10 minutes ago, ttkk said:

Sadly, we have got some unsavoury elements in the fanbase, but at the risk of being an apologist, we are a club based in a deprived inner London ward. A watch of the classic, albeit depressing Nil By Mouth will inform you of why Millwall may have more issues than the likes of Reading, Wycombe and Bournemouth etc. However, I would always argue that overall, the Millwall fanbase is more Only Fools and Horses in character than Football Factory. Indeed, some of the best characters in it are real life Millwall fans - Uncle Albert, Syd, Mickey Pearce... and writer John Sullivan said all he did was take characters from the places he hung out in in SE London and put them on screen. I reckon Del was based on my dad! That is my experience of being a Millwall fan, drinking in pubs with characters like Del, Rodney, Granddad, Denzil etc etc... 

It is sad that the otherside of Millwall completely overshadows the normal, SE London side. Stories like this https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/millwall-fans-topping-the-table-for-charity-giving-on-last-day-of-cancer-deadline-day/ never make the national splash that a few idiots do. But it is a cross we have to bear.

As for the players... I do not know their individual circumstances, but they are young men and will react to a big crowd on their back. I don't know if they were getting social media messages from Derby fans in the build up, or outside the stadium or in the warm-up etc. I certainly did silly things in my 20s that I would not be proud of now, but which were reactions. Perhaps I am being too forgiving, I don't know. Tensions were always going to be high last night for Derby fans, I get that. 

 

Scott Malone is just a twit and was when he was here.  He seems just as highly regarded at other places he's been.  I seem to recall a fair few of your own supporters reminiscing that he was a **** *** and not that keen for him to come back when it was mooted. Derby stuck by Bennett through a number of personal issues - not just the infamous car journey- and gave him 3 contracts when he was absolute dog poo or terminally injured.  His behaviour since leaving here in regard to this has been, quite frankly, abhorrent.  

12 hours ago, Red_Dawn said:

Fixed that for you. 

Assuming Mason Bennett isn’t a popular character on here tonight? 

I'll see your Mason Bennett, who clearly has a brain created from the bits Dr Frankenstein didn't think were of high enough quality to pop in his monster and raise you a Scott Malone, who in an alternate universe is sat in a park shouting at people, drinking meths and making himself his own tattoos with a compass.

10 minutes ago, ttkk said:

Tame Millwall fan here. I have posted before, but not for a while. 

I enjoyed the game last night, mainly because you got it on, unlike Blackburn Rovers! Seriously though, as football fans, we all know the epicaricacy or 'schadenfreude' nature of the game's culture... and last night was a classic example. It was interesting and enjoyable to see a large crowd gather to get behind their city's only professional team so passionately, as their young and patched up side gallantly tries to overcome the huge obstacle of a 21 point deduction. I mean that by the way. I am not taking the Michael. This sense of spectacle was heightened by the fact that I was one of the 514 band of followers of perhaps the most unfashionable football club in England, managed by a disliked former Derby manager and containing some unpopular former 'Rams'. 

I think once the disappointment of losing what on paper looked like a winnable home match dissipates for you, you will be once again be filled with pride and no little hope - as Rooney and your players are doing an amazing job. I see some are already in that place. As others have pointed out, your young side came up against a very experienced and well-drilled defence last night. However, it must also be noted, that the reason we 'celebrated like we had won the league', is because we are going through our own injury crisis, and are also having to field a lot of young players, including a 15 year old! 

I also take issue with being called 'tin-pot'. Yes, we are a small club at Championship level, but I would not say we are tin-pot. I associate 'tin-pot' with clubs with no real character, history or romance. The sort of club whose fans sing the same old generic songs as everyone else - thankfully I have never heard a Millwall crowd sing a generic football chant like 'Everywhere We Go' or 'Easy' etc. etc. In fact, because of our strong sense of identity and character, I have only ever heard us sing very Millwall centric songs - NOLU, Let Em Come, Millwall to different tunes. 

Furthermore, Millwall have a rich and proud history - pioneers of professional football in London and the South no less. The only club able to challenge the dominance of the northern and midlands sides in the late Victorian era in football's oldest competition - the FA Cup. In fact, this is the reason Millwall are the only senior football club in English football to earn their nickname through footballing endeavour and achievement! Formerly the 'Dockers', Millwall were christened the 'Lions of the South' by the national press, after giving the likes of Aston Villa (the best club side of the Victorian era), Everton, Preston NE and yes, Derby County, bloody noses in the cup! 

Moreover, I was first taken to The Den by my granddad and uncle in 1985. By my maths, in the 37 seasons that have followed, Millwall and Derby County have played at the same level in 23 of them. That hardly suggests that going by endevours on the pitch, that Derby County are a vastly superior outfit. In fact that reflects rather poorly on Derby County, who represent a whole city and since Chesterfield have slipped out of the Football League, are the only representative for the whole of Derbyshire playing top level football. Whereas Millwall have to compete with some of the biggest clubs in world football in Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and West Ham United (spit) only a tube ride away, plus the likes of Crystal Palace and Charlton Athletic on our doorstep. I would argue that rather than being 'tin-pot', we are a very well-run club that gets the most out of its resources, allowing us to be a humble but proud second tier battler that no-one likes playing at The Den or in the cups. That may not be 'ambitious', but what's the alternative? Chase the dream like Derby County? 

That leads me on to Gary Rowett. Many Millwall fans are not enamoured with him either. You are correct, sometimes the football is painful. But needs must. Again, I take issue with it being 'typical' Millwall. From my time supporting the club Millwall have always been an aggressive and direct team yes, but in a positive way. That is to say, taking the game to the opposition, especially at The Den. However, Rowett is a dour pragmatic manager. That isn't Millwall, more like Charlton! But, times have changed, the Championship is full of big city clubs with regional level support like Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United etc, all wanting to get into the promised land, as well as clubs like Bournemouth and Fulham, their pockets filled with the filthy lucre of parachute payments. Millwall currently need to keep their heads down and become more and more entrenched, like a tick in the Championship beast and hope we get a lucky season like Burnley or Huddersfield Town did, or even the jammiest of jammy clubs - Crystal Palace! 

Also, the club hierarchy are quite happy for a steady ship, as their main concern is this: https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2020/february/millwall-reveal-plans-for-stadium-redevelopment/

The opportunity to develop land around The Den, which would allow us income streams to compete seriously for promotion. If and when it gets given the green light (Lewisham Council has already approved the adjoining Renewel development), then I would imagine Huski will fully takeover the club and maybe our ambitions will increase. Until then, it is all aboard the keep it steady Rowett Express! 

Okay, if you bothered to read all that, I will sign off by genuinely wishing you well... because as football fans of a grand old club like Derby County, you certainly do not deserve what you have been through! Even if you do not win this battle, I am positive you will bounce back stronger for it! Good luck. 

You lost me at that bit. 

Weirdly, I can remember well when Chelsea were a regular 2nd division team playing in an empty stadium with crumbling concrete, albeit they won a couple of cups early seventies.  You can thank Derby for Arsenal getting the chance of 100 years in the top division.  They had the deciding vote to invite them in from Division 2 where they regularly hung around mid table. 

2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

 

 

Blimey, was he to blame for Covid 19 and the assassination of Kennedy too?! ?

Perhaps coming back fresher after a break, and seeing how much we missed him, knowing he should have been on the pitch, will motivate him to try harder after his ban! You know a bit like making him captain encouraged his play. #COYR

Lets hope he can try 8-12 points harder.  Thats where we'll probably be

14 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said:

Chears Hales, I was having a giggle with Andi Peters, Until Don Estelle got involved, Put a yellow jacket on some people and then all of a sudden they're 10 feet tall, He was told to back off and back off now with a few other choice Anglo Saxon words, Lucky for me a good friend was a Senior superviser on the players tunnel, He took over, Asked WTF am I doing, Told him how it was, Instead of him handing me over to the law he escorted me out.

He got a lot of grief for that, So phone calles and letters were sent to DCFC to explain the situation, They took what I said as true with me being a Vicars Son ?, And my mate was warned that another repeat would mean a relief of duties.

As for the Cardiff game, Enjoy and have a few beers after the game ?

Had the displeasure of meeting this fella - the real one - when I was about 10.  What an absolute **** *** he was.  That bad it's stayed with me to this day . 

1 minute ago, Yani P said:

Massive miss today sadly..

Have to say, if I was breaking my nuts to grind out results, I wouldn't be to chuffed to have my Captain rewarded for total stupidity by being told to go off and have a break in the sunshine during monsoon February.  Not good for moral. A big own goal.  Doesn't take much to rock a boat already in stormy seas. 

14 minutes ago, angieram said:

QED

 

Sure I just replied to this and it disappeared 

9 minutes ago, Needlesh said:

Millwall won fair and square.

They furthered their reputation, and that of their manager, for being horrible. Their fans, surprisingly, were abysmal.

I find it hard to hate them, but I'll make an exception for their right back, who I would cheerfully geld.

 

 

11 minutes ago, TomBustler1884 said:

A bit too much inexperience in the lineup tonight. You need to stand up to the likes of Millwall and we got bullied first half, which is disappointing.

Second half much improved but we still rarely looked like scoring. Having said that, Millwall offered nothing 2nd half, and we should have had a penalty.

It is what it is. Give me a DCFC at the end of the season, regardless of division and I'll be happy.

Final word for the ex-Rams tonight. Evans and Pearce are fine. Bennett is irrelevant for me, mainly because he's just clearly an idiot, he just isn't intelligent.

Scott Malone though. He's that guy at school who people hated yet somehow hung out with the popular kids. A deeply unpleasant banker. Genuinely, there aren't many former players I like less and his attitude when he returns to play here is incredibly unprofessional. I'm disappointed Kaz didn't leave one on him tbh 

Yes. Injury time ref.  It's my first game and I misunderstood what it meant.  Easy Yellow and well worth it. 

1 minute ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

He took us to the playoffs after stacking the team with expensive journeymen and ballooned our wage bill. 

Then served up the most craven performance in living memory vs Fulham at craven cottage...... 

 

Opinions, yes. 

Who?  Davies - Still here, Huddlestone - probably a year too long. Ledley was great till he got injured and left with no payoff . Jerome who got keys goals and we got the cash back for.  The ballooned wage bill was here long before Rowett.

2 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

He had an expensive squad at Stoke. 

 

And he was carp..... 

 

He is not a successful manager. 

Birmingham lost 8-0 at home to Bournemouth the week he took over he took them to a comfy 10th place finish and finished a couple of points of the playoffs yje next year ,  He took us to the Playoffs.  The Millwall side he has is total dross but he's kept them comfortably in this league and with a couple more on the bounce they'll be around the Top 6 .   He had very little time with Stoke who went trigger happy and panicked like someone else we know.  I disagree but all opinions.

3 minutes ago, Ellafella said:

Normally I’m balanced - but gut wrenched to lose to Snake & his Derby misfit outfit and imposter fake management spiel ?

Gonna go out on an unpopular limb here.  Rowett stays as manager we probably get promoted in the next two years.  He knows how to win in this league and can put teams who are competitive together for little cash.  Derby offered him no cash and made it clear we had to flog Vydra and probably others to balance the books. Then Lampard was given that cash to spend which seemed to surprise him somewhat. He's a good manager and I expect to move to a better job in the not to distant future.

The ultimate embarrassment.  Losing to a team with a 70's adult movie star on the bench.

Just now, Carl Sagan said:

Ref doesn't add on any extra whatsoever for Millwall's outrageous timewasting. He chickened out at the end. Why didn't he give the pen?

Really. I'm surprised.  Think I've spent at least 3 months of my life watching Millwall throwing themselves around or the goalie having 3 broken legs and a fractured skull in the space of 90 minutes.  Sounds like Malone got a knock.  lets hope it's nothing not serious .

8 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Never was the old saying more appropriate. You've got to keep it tight if you're not playing well. 

Think the departure of Jagielka was terminal to that one .  Always seemed the most likely reason to me that we would stay up .  Pretty much any team in this division is dire from one game to the next.  Unfortunately, we don't have the attacking options to be shipping 2 goals a game on average.  Keep hold of Jagielka, I fancy we would have certainly finished around the 40 -42 point mark .  Very difficult now.

15 minutes ago, mwram1973 said:

What, cupping his ears to the same fans who were all singing hes a banker????

But it's true.  No point him taking offence. Is he still a firestarter 

2 minutes ago, atherstoneram said:

What do you expect him to do, apologise for his team scoring.

Yes , seeing as we paid him for doing duck all for 10 years.

Not available to watch this one.  Is it as bad as it sounds.  Malone sounds like he was going to booked for inciting the crowd.  ******* to the end . Would expect nothing else . banker.