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    Donnyram reacted to Day in Supporters Charter Group Apology   
    I just want to apologise for the delay, my absence, my handling of the situation and try to explain what has happened.
    The meeting on Wednesday was scheduled to end at 8.45pm, my last train home was 9.33pm, I slipped out just after 9pm as I didn’t have clothes, medication, toiletries with me as I wasn’t planning on staying overnight.
    When the meeting had finished, an agreement was made where one statement would be written and signed off by all groups, this is the first time anything like this had been agreed, I was under the impression we would be allowed to report back as normal.
    Being completely unaware of this, whilst waiting for my train I saw a conversation take place on my Twitter timeline discussing the meeting minutes, when would they be out.
    I replied, that the meeting minutes were not taken and we would be sharing the information ourselves, which as I say I was under the impression would be allowed, why else attend? I thought I was being helpful.
    Now I can see on reflection I was clearly naive in not appreciating the number of fans waiting online for what was said at the meeting, would see the tweet whilst was part of a conversation, which was also public and could be seen and shared by others. The tweet blew up online having been retweeted, I’m not exaggerating when I say maybe hundred or more replies, some abusive to the point where I had to turn notifications off as my phone was freezing with as I came back into an area with phone signal.
    On the forum I did pre warn members not to expect anything Wednesday evening, the minutes can sometimes take a few days to a couple of weeks before being released. I was going with the intention of asking the club if the minutes could be released within 24 hours or that we could release the information immediately. Obviously once we was told the minutes would not be taken all that went out the window and believed we was free to report back immediately, and that was the plan.
    Again, I was clearly naive to the fact fans on Twitter would not be aware of this, so when I wasn’t replying to all the tweets with thumbs up or down if it’s good news, or are we going to have a club next week the levels of abuse increased, despite my plea for being understanding I wasn’t in the position to do so.
    With my write up, I had no intention of adding any personal opinion, it would be just what was said and allow you all to read and take it as you will.
    As you will be well aware, all fans see things differently and I didn’t want to raise any expectations or disappoint fans, then receive more abuse as it wasn’t what they were expecting.
    I put myself in this situation through naivety, but I don’t accept that the abuse was warranted at all, I have removed the twitter account from my devices and will no longer be active on that account, opting now for a private account as I have no interest in twitter fame.
    I would seriously urge anyone that did send me abusive tweets to have a think how they talk to people online and their demands, if this is this what celebrities have to deal with on a daily basis, I’m glad I’m just a nobody!
    Punjabi Rams, who I honestly can’t thank enough stepped in and put some tweets out from their account to give some information in my defence. You guys are awesome, didn’t need to do that but again, I honestly can’t thank you enough. Quick plug www.punjabirams.co.uk, @PunjabiRams on Twitter, go give them a follow if you are on there.
    On the train home I started to do the write up on my notes app, realising I need to get this out asap, first thing to defuse the situation I felt I had created.
    Thursday morning, as I was consulting my notes and finishing off the write up, there was a few things I wanted to fact check with the club were totally accurate, there has been times where things have been misheard in the past (Boycie ahem) and needed correcting, I didn’t want this to happen. We’re human, mistakes can happen, I believed I had time to ensure there were none.
    I decided, and this was not requested by the club but to send my write up to them, asking if they could read it over and everything I had written was totally accurate, leaving ??? <—— fact checks where I was a little cautious over.
    They agreed and I again naively yet again assumed that this would be back with me in a few hours……despite the previous night listening to just how busy they have been.
    Now whilst I understand and totally agree that this meeting is important, the club staff are as I’m sure you can imagine really busy, now I need to really stress here that this is in no way the fault of the club, this is on me 100%.
    No tweet, no forum post, none of this situation exists.
    Meanwhile The Supporters Charter Group are scratching their heads as to why I’ve gone it alone, I can only apologise to them also, as I say I was under the impression that we would all be reporting back ourselves which I have explained privately with them.
    A single statement isn’t something I would have been personally happy with but that is what was agreed in my absence.
    I haven’t felt comfortable coming back on the forum if I'm honest, ignoring the fact I insinuated what was said at the meeting would be out Thursday on the forum, I feel like I have let you all down and for that I’m sorry.
    Just to add, this apology wasn’t asked for, it's something I feel is owed to you all.
    Should someone have gone that could have stayed all evening? Ideally yes, although Paul (Boycie) was unavailable to attend. Since the formation of 2017 it has only been either myself or Paul that has attended, I didn’t feel it would be right to send someone new which in hindsight was the correct call, they may have also not been able to attend until the end of what I’m led to believe turned out to be almost a 4 hour long meeting, putting themselves unwittingly into a similar situation I have.
    I know you are all frustrated, the accusations of attention seeking, sitting on information, teasing, trying to get more views, followers etc. and even censorship on the forum are simply not true, they come from people that do not know me or how the forum is run at all, which is disappointing hearing it said by members that have been on the forum for a number of years now.
    Finally, I do want to say thank you to those who have sent supportive texts, PM’s, DM’s, tweets you name it over the last few days, despite asking to be given time, it’s you who I put the hours in for, I will learn from this and work on handling things better in the future.
    I would also like to thank the moderators who have been trying their best to keep on top of the situation, without them this forum would have crashed and burned over the last few days so please be respectful to them, even if at times you do not agree with decisions they have made. 
    David
     
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    Donnyram reacted to jimbobram in Respect Waz   
    Rooney has had multiple interviews now, where he has been asked the question about walking away. He consistently says no. We have been crying out for stability and loyalty from a manager since Nigel Clough. He arguably has the toughest job of any manager for as long as I can remember supporting Derby (22 years) and despite having a bare minimum squad and having all the problems above him, he continues to show that he cares and wants to do well. 
    We are starting to see a style of play which is exciting and attacking with the handful players he has. 
    I think it's about time everyone starts to show respect to him instead of wanting him out. Any other manger would have left us in this mess. 
     
    He's sticking with us, we need to stick with him !!
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    Donnyram reacted to Jase116 in v Salford (H) Match Day Thread   
    I thought as ‘Rooney’ said in his interview the young lads grew into men during the game, you can see why he wants some more experienced pros into the club, just to help them, we can’t have that side from last night starting in the championship, but we can have them playing around 10 games a season alongside the experienced pros.Didn’t think any of them looked out of place.
    It’s been a while since I enjoyed a match as much as that, just for the pure effort and desire that they put in, yes mistakes were made, which is understandable, but it showed that a lot of thes players could become regular 1st team players if handled properly and bulk up a bit, also loved the passion after Watson’s winning penalty.
    A quick shout out about Brown as well, not many people have mentioned him, thought he went about his job effectively.Also I know a lot of people don’t want Rooney as manager, but after the match I actually thought, I hope he succeeds here and becomes a top manager, I have total respect for him not walking away, because I think most would have, are his tactics perfect? No, but just for sticking with us and sheer bloody mindness, I hope he does well.
    finally a shout out to our fans, we seem to have this ‘we’re all in this together mentality’ after years of moaning and groaning from the stands, it’s great to hear us getting behind the lads, let’s hope this continues, we made need it.
    coyr ????
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    Donnyram reacted to Rampage in v Salford (H) Match Day Thread   
    No chance of Rooney being sacked or walking this season. When the going gets tough, Wayne gets tougher. He is utterly determined to succeed at Derby and I think that he will.
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    Donnyram reacted to Ellafella in South Stand: Respect   
    Great support today. Proud. 
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    Donnyram reacted to Day in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Let me try this again, I was forwarded your post and just online replying to say thanks, and I appreciate the concern. Posted and the topic was merged and my post lost as I submitted it. Cheers mods.
    I have an apology and what exactly has happened post which will follow the report from the meeting, I don't not can't want to go into detail now. 
    What I would say is, this is not the clubs fault, anyone using it as a stick to beat the club with are doing so without the full facts, which is unfair and not helping myself personally as I try to fix the situation and get the information out to you.
    I, David, has handled the situation poorly, been naive and been busy working my hardest to get back to you all with what you want.I would like to think that over the years we have built up some mutual respect, if you don't want to believe me that's fine, but please just stop until you have read what I put out.
    You must also all understand that the club staff are ridiculously busy right now working long hours on other important issues, whilst I feel somewhat in limbo, I'm more happy that we have an extra 2 defenders in the squad than missing out as they need to read through my emails.
    As for tomorrow, I am excited more than you will ever know, football is back, Derby are back, fans in the stadium, perfect.
    I'm just gutted I can't be there, but I'm doing the next best thing, taking a flight out of here so I can watch on RamsTV with a. few beers that are chilling in the fridge.
    Those that are going, regardless of your thoughts on the ownership, club, put all that to one side and get behind the team, we have a young team that doesn't deserve to play under a negative atmosphere. 
    Drop any protests, Mel chants, anti EFL or anti and sarcastic Rooney chants, focus on positive support for the team, this is when they need us the most, the atmosphere is all on us nobody else, if we crush those lads with booing and all that baalocks, we will have to shoulder some of the responsibility.
    I'm sorry for the lack of communication, I just didn't have anything to add and felt it would be best to stay offline. But please, regardless of what you think of me, the club, just read the above and take it from a fan that loves this club and wouldn't be saying any of this if I didn't mean it.
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    Donnyram reacted to Mucker1884 in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Tomorrow is day one of what is almost certainly going to be "An interesting season"!

    I sincerely hope you are giving it the same excited attention as the rest of us Rams fans.

    If the reasons for the delay in posting your report from the meeting is in any way stressing you out... walk away from it... NOW!
    Forget your well meant intentions.  Forget any "promises" you may have made.  And most importantly, ignore any flak being thrown in your direction, whether that be full on abuse, or poorly delivered banter.
    You are not representative of Derby County Football Club, hierarchy or boot room, and you should not be bearing any burdens relating to such.
    You are just a bloke that runs an internet forum... for the benefit of others.  No better, no worse, and no more important than the countless factory floor workers, office workers, and street cleaners amongst us.
    Crucially, you owe us nothing.  If anything, we owe you, for providing us with this excellent forum of yours... of ours... for which many on here are extremely grateful.
    Do what is right for you.  No excuses.  No explanations.  No apologies.  Indeed, if it suits, then don't even make mention of it.  I repeat... you owe us nothing.
    Get your arse back on here.  Concentrate on tomorrow's game.  Bring actual real live football back into your life, and sod all those that expect more from you.  Let your minions wield their banhammers if need be, to keep the great unwashed at bay.
    This is your manor, and we are nothing more than your guests.  So head up, chest out, deep breath, and let's get this season started.
    DO NOT MAKE YOURSELF ILL OVER WHAT HAS BEEN A POO FEW DAYS.
     
    UTR  ?
     
     
     
    *If the above is totally along the wrong lines, and your absence is in any way related to more personal family matters, then I can only offer my sincere best wishes to you and yours.  
     
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    Donnyram reacted to Mick Harford in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Found the RD interview pretty interesting, more because of what was not said than what was said.
    My take on it, my thoughts after I've looked at what is in the public domain.
    I posted a while back about what I'd heard re: an American consortium taking over, I have heard nothing to suggest that this is no longer the case.
    I've experience of dealing with due diligence for American companies, and boy do they love an NDA personally I've signed around a dozen, and what Mel couldn't talk of last night leads me (hopes) to believe that the silence through official channels is as a result of an NDA between Mel/DCFC and the consortium. The NDA between the club and bidders will also be separate and differ to the one between Mel and the fans groups last night.
    I understand that a  lot of us are upset/frustrated/disappointed/angry and it's only human nature to want to point the finger and find someone to blame, but I'm hoping that it's more a question of cannot rather than will not when it comes to the lack of direct engagement with the fanbase.
    I'd also suggest that the consortium are waiting for the accounts and actual level of debt to be finalised before moving forward, as I understand the accounts have to be submitted at latest in 13 days, so I reckon that it's more end of month/transfer window rather than start of season before we see proper movement.
    I know we all want answers ASAP, but it might just be a question of wait out on this and when there is news then there is news.
    I'd also ask that we remember what we have in common, that we are all Derby and want the best for the club, my view is that sniping at each other, different groups, posters and dismissing with terms such as wrist slashers or happy clappers does nothing good bar possibly making you feel better for a few second., Whilst people may have a different view debate is good, sarcasm, anger abuse in my view is not. I feel the club, with the dire straights we are in, need the fanbase to step up show why we are amongst the best in the country and support the club, manager and players during what is going to be a testing season.
    Jesus, I've rambled a lot for a post that is just my opinion and not fact. Sorry.
    COYR
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    Donnyram got a reaction from EtoileSportiveDeDerby in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Never rated that Gordon Brown though, carried a bit too much weight 
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    Donnyram got a reaction from ColonelBlimp in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Never rated that Gordon Brown though, carried a bit too much weight 
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    Donnyram reacted to RoyMac5 in Jozwiak   
    From an article in The Athletic:
    "Saturday’s opening Championship fixture against Huddersfield Town will mark the first competitive game where Jozwiak will experience with fans. He makes no secret that he enjoys playing with an intensity and, at times, a little on the edge. He is very much looking forward to a packed Pride Park for extra motivation. And he hopes to inspire a chant.

    “I heard that in England fans have songs for certain players they like. But in Poland, we don’t really have that. I don’t know if the Derby fans have one for me or not. But if I could get one, that would be OK. I missed them last season. Sometimes it felt like a friendly. I thrive off the crowd.

    “In Lech, I played in front of a lot of fans. I saw at Derby (on TV) that the fans are also very good and Krystian also told me how great they are. So I know the fans will fight with us.

    “When you do a good thing and they react you get additional energy. After the game against Sheffield Wednesday, I was trying to drive home and I couldn’t get out of the car park because all the fans came down to support us. Not every place in the world is like that. Sometimes fans only support you when you are in a good position. That was very helpful for us.”
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    Donnyram reacted to Geriatram in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Ha Ha, but he did know how to enjoy himself on a Saturday night.
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    Donnyram got a reaction from DRS94 in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Never rated that Gordon Brown though, carried a bit too much weight 
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    Donnyram got a reaction from Chester40 in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Never rated that Gordon Brown though, carried a bit too much weight 
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    Donnyram reacted to Eric the half a ram in The latest from the club via Chris Coles   
    Easy tiger, it's not that kind of meeting!!! ??
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    Donnyram reacted to superzak in Tom Lawrence   
    I'm a Derby supporter...Tom is captain...until he leaves he has my support...thats what I do
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    Donnyram reacted to Will Hughes Hair in Tom Lawrence   
    Got to love some of the strategic thinkers on here.
    Were massively short of attacking players. Hmmm let’s sell one who carries a goal threat because we can spend it on someone better! Double yay!!
    Except we can’t can we? We can’t even use it to supplement a better wage offer to free agents.
    Actually we’ve weakened ourself. Made relegation even more likely. And can’t effect any positive change to the squad.
    I’d trust my tramp to run Derby better than some of of the posters on here ??
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    Donnyram reacted to Kinder in Wayne Rooney   
    I sent this to my brother. He replied
    “Unbelievable - he’s trying to sabotage us. And are we really looking for pub team players?!”
    I told him it was a p!ss take article and he replied
    “Did he actually burn down the training centre?”
    My brother is 47 and got a first from Cambridge. What an absolute lemon.
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    Donnyram got a reaction from Ken Tram in Wayne Rooney   
    You couldn't make it up...... "Rooney burns down training ground making toast".  ??
     
    https://news.paddypower.com/football/2021/07/31/rooney-accidentally-burns-Derby-training-complex-after-leaving-toast-on-too-long/
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    Donnyram got a reaction from GboroRam in Wayne Rooney   
    You couldn't make it up...... "Rooney burns down training ground making toast".  ??
     
    https://news.paddypower.com/football/2021/07/31/rooney-accidentally-burns-Derby-training-complex-after-leaving-toast-on-too-long/
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    Donnyram got a reaction from kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong in Wayne Rooney   
    You couldn't make it up...... "Rooney burns down training ground making toast".  ??
     
    https://news.paddypower.com/football/2021/07/31/rooney-accidentally-burns-Derby-training-complex-after-leaving-toast-on-too-long/
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    Donnyram got a reaction from kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong in Fans not from Derbyshire...   
    Born and bred in Derby and lifelong Rams fan following in the footsteps of my dad. Moved to Doncaster in 1991 for work and marriage where both my sons were born - both of whom have been brought up properly as Rams fans although my youngest had a University placement over at the dark side whilst in Nottingham. Owned up to being a Ram in his interview and was still successful ??.  
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    Donnyram got a reaction from Rev in Fans not from Derbyshire...   
    Born and bred in Derby and lifelong Rams fan following in the footsteps of my dad. Moved to Doncaster in 1991 for work and marriage where both my sons were born - both of whom have been brought up properly as Rams fans although my youngest had a University placement over at the dark side whilst in Nottingham. Owned up to being a Ram in his interview and was still successful ??.  
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    Donnyram got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in Wayne Rooney   
    You couldn't make it up...... "Rooney burns down training ground making toast".  ??
     
    https://news.paddypower.com/football/2021/07/31/rooney-accidentally-burns-Derby-training-complex-after-leaving-toast-on-too-long/
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