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Just now, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

I think there's a bit of mirage in the desert situation happening here.  5th from bottom being the mirage.  It's not happening.  I want Barnsley, Reading and Peterborough to lose .  Everyone else is irrelevant.  

I think folk are basing it on the magical 40 (ish) point target.

As teams pass that, they'll be forgotten about.

Agree its a four way shootout unless a team above has an absolute mare, catastrophic collapse.

Barnsley 1-0 Hull.

Happy with that, still 13 points to Hull (if they lose) with two games in hand.

Feels a very long way to catch them, too far really, but there's still 14 games to go this season, and I'd rather they be mathematically catchable than not!

Well, if there's a silver lining, Coventry have equalised.

This could be a hat full, we look as good as I've seen us in a couple of years.

I was out of my seat and half way down the street, can't believe he's put that wide!

In all seriousness I want Boro to beat Reading, this is bigger than just one match.

We have a real chance here, great goal Tom!

6 hours ago, RamsfanJim said:

RamsTrust Board members are elected every year by our members for a 3 year term, after which they stand down or stand again for re-election. 

We do try to engage with supporters - everyone is welcome to email the Trust to contact us via twitter or now on here (if I can keep up...) 

Jim,

Thanks for the response.

For what it's worth I do think the Trust is trying to do the right thing and I don't envy your position in truth; trying to be an encompassing voice for a wide spectrum of views from groups who aren't all in possession of quite the same level of information it would seem.

I wholeheartedly agree and support the engagement with fans across the spectrum and appreciate the time taken to come to us. 

Unfortunately I think you will always be greeted with reticence in some corners (though I won't include myself in that, my query was purely relating to the nature of the organisational intent as opposed to any of the Trusts actions) but I do hope that you will stick around and act as a sounding board for Forum Members to put forward (sensible) queries to the Club.

Perhaps @David we could pin a post from the Trust for it to be used for queries (not discussion) to keep it clean (this is a little clumsy!). Members can discuss Balotelli in another thread, give Jim a fair chance and some hospitality.

40 minutes ago, angieram said:

I don't actually agree with this, having worked for charities my whole career.

Many societies are set up to speak on behalf of a wider community than their actual membership, from political parties down.

The whole point of a democratic vehicle is to allow access to as many members as want to be involved, that way the organisation acheives as much democracy as it can. As it grows it can then do more to reach out to wider and wider groups of people. 

I think Punjabi Rams have a structure and elections, I know the local supporters clubs do. I suspect most of the other "representative" groups don't, I know for example that this was a role thrust upon our Forum that @David felt very uncomfortable with. And as for the democracy of letting a man with a flag "represent" supporters! Sure Nick didn't ask for that, either.

I cannot for the life of me understand why supporters want to pour scorn over the one organisation whose very existence is set up to be the very thing that they all want - a voice in how the club is run.

I'm with @Simmo’s left foot, if more of us had got off our backsides earlier, then we might have been a force to be reckoned with when we were needed. But we aren't  - yet.

 I  have joined because I want to change that. What are you doing about it?

For what it's worth I'm not pouring scorn and I applaud anyone, irregardless of their associations, for supporting the Club at any point in time, not just this.

The transparency from Jim and yourself, and I hope this isn't a flash in the pan, is really encouraging. It isn't possible, I'd expect, for RT to be constantly canvassing the digital fanbase for comment, but actively seeking engagement will alleviate a lot of the animosity, I'd expect.

In answer to the query about me personally, I'm posted half a planet away so the answer to that is 'very little', sadly.

13 minutes ago, angieram said:

The Board is elected by Rams Trust members. Anyone who supports the aims and objectives of Rams Trust can become a member. There is an AGM where elections take place.

This is fairly standard procedure for a society. Members of the public don't get to elect Board members for any society, charity, company. Their members, shareholders do.

Then, in which case, it's first objective is worded incorrectly.

It is a democratic and representative voice of its paid Trust Members, not 'supporters of the club'.

Too generic a term to be applied,  I'm afraid, and should be revised.

I'm not saying that any of RT's actions have been incorrect and, generally, is likely to be in keeping with the majority of fans views, but it's just wrong to claim to be a democratic voice for all DCFC fans when it isn't elected by those whom it claims to represent.

7 minutes ago, angieram said:

Rams Trust objectives: 

Our objectives are to benefit the community by:

 

-      Being a democratic and representative voice of the supporters of the club and strengthening the bonds between the club and the communities which it serves;

-      Achieving the greatest possible supporter and community influence in the running and ownership of the club;

-      Promoting responsible and constructive community engagement by present and future members of the communities served by the club and engaging with the club to do the same;

-      Operating democratically, fairly, sustainably, transparently and with financial responsibility, and encouraging the club to do the same

-      Being a positive, inclusive and representative organisation, open and accessible to all supporters of the club regardless of their age, income, ethnicity, gender, disability, sexuality, or religious or moral belief. 

Their website is here - https://ramstrust.org.uk/wp/

I think it is in need of a revamp, and believe there is a subgroup working on this. All the latest communications are on there, though.

Hi Angie/Jim,

The issue you will have, amongst the wider DCFC community, is with the objective highlighted in bold.

Myself, I am ambivalent towards RT, I certainly don't share some of the negative views held by some about the Trust.

However, how can it claim to be democratic? Are the Board elected by other Board Members, or paid trust members? It certainly isn't done by DCFC's wider community, and therein lies the issue about representation. 

Ultimately, people will always resent being represented by those whom aren't elected (not least by that individual). Sadly, for RT to be an accountable, trustworthy and widely supported Trust it needs to be far more transparent and engaging with fans beyond the RT sphere.

So, on a positive; welcome. If this is the beginning of RT reaching out to the wider community then it is absolutely welcomed and arguably should have come some time before now and I wish you success in the venture.

Someone has got to get a claim in against the club for that infamous coffee cup goal now surely....

https://youtu.be/_Jvi3Q3z3Rs

17 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

What is the origin of the name Kirchner?

German: from Middle High German kirchenaere 'sexton', hence an occupational name for a priest, an assistant at a church, or the administrator of church property and possessions.

 

I think our prayers are about to be answered!

Bless you.  Bless you all.

Is this finally the German CB?!

1 minute ago, Yani P said:

only team to get a point in bottom 4 perhaps?

A really good point to make, progress.

14 minutes ago, 1967RAMS said:

With what!!!!! We were so skint we went into administration. Get a grip man 

Let the man embrace his passion. Perhaps a bit ambitious but has his right to enjoy his own emotions, as do we all.

Battle to be King of the Naughty Boys club!

8 hours ago, Eddie said:

Isn't it all to do with the position of the centre of gravity in relation to the upper deck level?

£5 to that man! Or Derby County Football Club, both worth about the same at the moment!

A boat rolls inward in a turn and a ship outward (which looks a little bizarre!) owing to the centre of gravity.

12 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said:

I'm clearly an idiot.

I'd like to say your close but.... nowhere near I'm afraid.

Watch a video of a Type 45 Destroyer in a turn, the answer is hidden in there.

9 hours ago, Bob The Badger said:

Can we Google quietly?

To be honest my answer is based on what a sailor in the Navy told me, however he's scouse and is banned from Bermuda so might not be the most reliable source of information!

On 24/08/2021 at 00:13, Carl Sagan said:

Went to the "world premiere" of the new show Vigil tonight ("from the makers of Line of Duty"). It'll be on BBC1 Sunday nights like Line of Duty, but in fact episode 2 is on Bank Holiday Monday.

Was a really excellent start. I'd say definitely worth a watch. 

 

Following this up, the finale is this Sunday so a good opportunity to binge between now and then if you haven't watched any yet.

Never been on a Submarine and after watching this, I never do. Ships on the water are bad enough, can't imagine why anyone would ever want to volunteer to go under the water...

Difference between a ship and a boat? No Googling aloud!

5 hours ago, ilkleyram said:

Please tell us that you’re now happily married to the aforementioned hot BMW driver and have three children 

Alas I'm afraid not, after a somewhat unremarkable half hour on the hard shoulder she was gone, never seen again... 

Had an RTC on the M1 a few years ago, ran in to the back of (a very attractive) young woman in a BMW, absolutely my own fault. 

... caused entirely by my being on the phone. Selfishly lobbed the phone in the glove compartment before everything had even came to a standstill and blamed the incident on 'the traffic slowing quickly in front caught me out' (Friday afternoon, northbound!).

Whole incident made worse that the lass I was messaging was a F*rest supporter and I was rinsing her for the state of their club at the time!

On 06/09/2021 at 19:58, David said:

I woke up and had zero emails

Wait... is that a thing? Can that actually happen??

I've just finished reading Jason Fox' book, Battle Scars.

His lifestyle/working career are clearly quite unique and finding parallels in terms of events is a bit of a challenge but there's some really solid admissions in there relating to his mental health battle.

It largely covers PTSD but I am of the opinion that his issue was more depression focused (later on, once he'd left the service) and I think that could certainly relate to a few who might be struggling with that side of life.

Worth a read, especially if you've suffered any trauma in life, and certainly has straightened my thoughts out in a few areas and takes a different approach to any other books on the subject I've come across.

As positive update as I think we could realistically expect at the moment. 

The bigger question then, perhaps, is that even if we do sign 4/5/10 of the freebies we may be enabled to sign, is that enough to keep Derby County Football Club in the second tier?

Nice to ask a Football question and not a Finance question for once!

Ryan, just finished the book, and wanted to say how much I enjoyed it.

I was born in the early 90's so the book literally covered my Derby County education from as far back as I can remember it as a child. 

Fantastic interviews, really well written and I've ordered copies for my Dad and Father-in-Law.

Can't help but feel that fate is somewhat against the club when you read the back half of the book (from Mac 1 onwards), so close on so many occasions despite the Managerial turmoil and changes of style... how did nobody get us over the line?

Also, reinforced my man-crush on Brys, the kind of bloke you'd love to sit and have a pint or three with, rare to see such devotion to a club the days I feel.