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3 minutes ago, Kokosnuss said:

Genuinely can never remember if his name is Cook or Crook

Some people have an odd mental block when it comes to names.

For example, I always forget Freud's first name. I know it's either Sigmund or Penis, but I forget which.

1 hour ago, The Last Post said:

This is football...people do the most stupid things, What has WR done to deserve being the Blues manager...dipped it into the owners Gran 😁

Roughly the same amount he did to deserve being Derby manager.

1 hour ago, Mucker1884 said:

In an athletics stadium?   

... And be renamed "The Olympics"?  

 

👀

Well spotted. I was just testing you.

Do all 6 nations get automatic qualification? This is an extremely thinly veiled ploy to get Europe, South America, and Africa out of the bidding cycle for 2036. No prizes for guessing where that will be held and I can guarantee that tournament won't be "welcoming and uniting the world" by being spread across three continents.

I used to love the world cup and couldn't have even imagined how it could be ruined to such an extent that I lost all interest. With the 48 team free for all and nonsense like this FIFA have managed it.

1 hour ago, Tamworthram said:

Good to see the BBC have got their facts right again. 😀

"The visitors doubled their lead through Collins, but Kenny Dougall's header handed Blackpool a lifeline two minutes later"

 

They are completely useless. Different club, but Chesterfield have a centre back called Jamie Grimes. He wears number 5 and as far as I'm aware has played centre back for every single club he's ever played for. Every week, without fail the BBC match report lists him as starting on the right wing.

"She said Houghton accepted he had "gone too far" during "mutual goading" between the two sets of football fans and had searched for the image of Bradley after "being shown a Sheffield United badge" by Sunderland supporters."

Imagine being 31 years old and being so triggered by being shown a football club badge that you decide to mock a dead child.

"Sheffield Wednesday's chief operating officer Liam Dooley condemned Houghton's "utterly deplorable behaviour" which he said "in no way represents the values of the club"."

These kind of statements always make me laugh. Thank goodness Dooley clarified that mocking dead children isn't one of Sheffield Wednesday's core values. I really wasn't sure before now.

24 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said:

I think the Sammon signing probably cost Nigel his job. But previous to that , if I remember rightly Clough was not allowed to play Steve Davis because of the cost of add-ons? His two other Scottish signings - Bryson and Russell were superb.

Sammon honestly wasn't so bad. If we'd got him when we originally went in for him at £400,000 he'd still be viewed as a flop, but not a disaster. Clough's big mistake was going back in for him at three times that price despite the huge red warning flag of his complete failure at Wigan. Clough really could get bizarrely fixated on a player that had no obvious positive attributes. How many times did he try to get Ryan Noble from Sunderland? A player that screamed non league journeyman the loudest since the heady days of Nick Chadwick.

6 minutes ago, jameso said:

Someone posted an image of the teamsheet of this game maybe a year or so ago and I remember the two Placketts. I think it's either Preston or Bolton away in our first game of the first proper national league (whatever it was called in those days!) 

Presumably not in our first year (?) and I have an urge to say 1893. So I'll go for Bolton away, 1893.

I await correction from someone who was there 😜

I was rather put out because George Bakewell turned out in a pair of scandalously short knickers. I caught a glimpse of his knee at one point and felt quite faint.

7 minutes ago, admira said:

62. For the next ten days, I'll be posting games that are known for their significance or for a talking point.

Year, opponents and what it's known for? 6.3 away win. Goals not necessarily in the correct order.

I could be a million miles away here, but was this our first ever league fixture? I think we played Bolton Wanderers away 1888.

Edit - year completely wrong, having seen the post above.

I absolutely despise that Wednesday game. It's the biggest gulf I've ever had between how I should feel and how I actually did feel after a game. We'd taken 6 points from a possible 42 and somehow survival was still in our own hands, win the game, be heroes. Simple. We couldn't even manage that, relying on a Cardiff equaliser against Rotherham. But we survived, so people were celebrating wildly. There was nothing to celebrate. A crap performance, from a crap team, to top off a crap season.

Stop paying players so much money. This isn't a defence of the shambolic way Scunthorpe has been run, but these situations are getting more and more common and we always go straight to hand wringing about fit and proper person tests and clubs as historic institutions. They're businesses and very few businesses could survive by paying almost their entire turnover out in wages. No one ever suggests that maybe, just maybe a league 2 footballer shouldn't be getting £75,000 per annum. Maybe Scunny will go the same way as Bury, but I can guarantee if they do most people will pretend that it's because the people in charge were malicious and somehow uniquely evil rather than the fact that the cost of keeping a competitive playing squad is becoming completely untenable for small town parochial clubs.

Right game, one year out.

I had no recollection of this game at all, which is odd because I was going to most games in this period. To be fair, I didn't bother turning up for league cup games because our players never turned up either. This was the 4th season in succession we got dumped out by lower league opposition in the first round.

Hat trick against Norwich today. Very impressive.

3 minutes ago, jimbo jones said:

No. Get a lead (hopefully 👀) and then get them back in. Don’t think chasing 200 plus tomorrow would be easy.

If we don’t get skittled out as well, a declaration target should be in mind from the start.

I don't know the conditions, but I just wondered based on how Sussex have struggled this morning and if it stays dry the pitch should improve tomorrow? I agree with you though. There's always a concern we'll make batting on this surface look even more difficult than our opponents.

If we bowl them out for less than 100, would you declare on 0?

8 million pounds... just imagine what we could've spent that on.

2 Jacob Butterfields. 

Lampard would've started Macken in this game.

West Brom, Play off final, 2007

2 hours ago, admira said:

49. Year, opponents, memories. 2-1 away.

Is this away at Anfield? 98?

7 minutes ago, Jubbs said:

I suggest some of the people in here speak their views to the women in their lives and see what reaction you get. Shameful.

Appeal to emotion isn't a particularly effective tactic.

2 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said:

#metoo wasn't a conspiracy whereby innocent men were wrongly accused... It was the civil movement that finally outed Harvey Weinstein and other prolific and well-known predators who'd previously been able to escape accountability, so not entirely sure the point you're making there.

Ultimately, how can you prove someone innocent or guilty in a 'he said, she said' situation within the current legal confines of the system? Add onto that, the startlingly low conviction rates actually now deter victims from reporting crimes, because what's the point? Invasive tests, just to watch justice not be served... That's traumatising in an entirely different way. 

I used to be a moron on this topic too, until I actually read up properly and developed an educated opinion. I'll happily retain the stance that if you base moral opinion upon the criminal verdict from an utterly broken system, you're a moron. 

So, what level of collateral damage in terms of wrongful convictions do you deem acceptable? Is 2% ok? Since you've become enlightened and decided that judicial process is unnecessary how many innocent people are you prepared to jail to boost the rape conviction rate?

10 minutes ago, Archied said:

I just found the way he talked about women in his comedy disgusting , the stunt with the granddaughter of the actor from faulty towers was beyond disgusting amongst many other stunts , he s pretty much everything I find stomach churning in a bloke , that said I’ve been open enough to state right off the bat that I’m fully aware that this does not make me best placed to judge how much is witch-hunt for his outspoken position on political issues ( not really seen any of his stuff as I avoid him but it’s out there that he is taking certain positions quite loudly to a fair sized number of followers) and the msn now which I’m pretty sure comes into play and I’ve stated my concern re trial by media 🤷🏻‍♂️

I was particularly unimpressed with the Andrew Sachs debacle. I felt that both Brand and Ross behaved appallingly.

13 minutes ago, MaltRam said:

Genuine question, with apologies for my ignorance...how is the data in that chart gathered if it's not reported somehow?

The breakdown of the statistics used can be found here. https://theenlivenproject.com/the-truth-about-false-accusation/

"Estimates from research suggest that between 75 and 95 per cent of rape crimes are never reported to the police." is taken from a crown prosecution service report. I've only skimmed the document, but I don't think the actual research data is cited in the document.

There's a bit of jiggery pokery going on from the enliven project as they've chosen to apply the 2% false accusation statistic only to the 10% reported rapes and decided to assume that the theoretical 90% unreported would have no false accusations whatsoever.

6 minutes ago, Jubbs said:

I'll point you again in the direction of this statistic. I'm sick of hearing this "rape allegations ruin lives" they don't. 

Greenwood is still playing football, Ben Yedder just captained Monaco at the weekend, Ronaldo is still playing football. There's tens/hundreds of famous actors still getting jobs even though there's serious allegations against them. 

The thread Stive linked is literally about a guy who spent 17 years in prison due to a wrongful rape conviction.

3 hours ago, Stive Pesley said:

The whole "why haven't they just reported it to the police instead of the media" brigade need to remind themselves of this thread

https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/41764-why-are-our-police-forces-still-getting-away-with-this-crap

2 hours ago, Anon said:

I'm very confused as to what point you're attempting make here. That the police sometimes push incredibly flimsy convictions means we should do away with a judicial system entirely?

Still scratching my head on this one. Would you agree that a degree of scepticism is fair regarding unproven rape allegations?

21 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said:

The whole "why haven't they just reported it to the police instead of the media" brigade need to remind themselves of this thread

https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/41764-why-are-our-police-forces-still-getting-away-with-this-crap

I'm very confused as to what point you're attempting make here. That the police sometimes push incredibly flimsy convictions means we should do away with a judicial system entirely?