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22 minutes ago, S8TY said:

That’s why Hourihane plays …he scores goals get the fcuk in!!!!!!! yaaaay

Response to the moronic posters who say on here Hourihane brings nothing to the team. Warne's verdict is a bit different

8 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

One of the worst performances in living memory -

Hardly.  Short memory ? 

We  are poor at defending set pieces.

Bradley's defensive headers so poor - another one gone ( unintentionally) backwards.

2 minutes ago, Papahet said:

Bird offers more than Hourihane both defensively and going forward..

Genuinely baffled what the latter actually brings to the side, ditto Korey Smith (no coincidence we go on a runs when he's out the eleven).

Unless we can prize Brannagan away from Oxford, I'd keep Bird till the Summer.

You missed the oxford game then ??   Cos the evidence of that contradicts what you say  - how many effective balls did Hourihane deliver into the box as well as for his actual assist?

8 minutes ago, angieram said:

I would have taken the 6 points from 9 in these last three games, but I suppose for the majority of supporters who only see the home games, today's performance was a disappointment. 

I think Warne deliberately front-loaded those fixtures by playing his first choice eleven at Wigan, knowing a win there would be the easiest of the three. He then has a bit of a dilemma in whether he changes a winning team and stuck by it on both subsequent occasions, when maybe it was better to twist? Of course, winning breeds confidence and that must have been a factor in his decision. It paid off at Oxford, with good use of substitutions, and might have done today. But I think the tough nature of those fixtures was a factor in our below par level this afternoon. 

One thing that hasn't been covered today, is that if you're going to sacrifice your third midfield player for an extra striker then that front line absolutely has to deliver the goods. Although Peterborough had plenty of the ball in that first half we had some really promising counter attacks (when the ball was played into the forwards by those "poor" midfielders Hourihane and Bird! 😉) but the forwards didn't make the right decisions on the ball and those attacks petered out (pun intended). I thought Mendez-Laing was particularly guilty of that today, he's my fave so I noticed it! Tired minds rather than tired legs after the hectic schedule? Similarly, players laying the ball off when there wasn't a perfect opportunity to shoot. Just not quite sharp enough in their collective decision making.

Despite this, I thought we more or less deserved the draw for our hard work and persistence,  but again tired minds in the defence, a sloppy moment when we switched off at a quick short corner, and two of our most reliable defenders with an almost intuitive understanding going for the same header for their winner.

Disappointed but not down-hearted; we have a run of winnable games coming up, we have the news that Cashin's contract extension has been triggered and Warne himself says he doesn't want anyone to leave.

About his swearing on Radio Derby, I think it must have been edited out of the second playing just before 6pm, as I never heard it. Of course, I might just have missed it like the ref missed all those fouls on TJJ! 

Good to read a sensible post........those negative hand-wringers and haters of their own players seem to have forgotten the positives of the unbeaten run. OK we made mistakes today but could still have easily avoided losing. Our defending in the last few minutes has proved fragile before.

Played further forward, as he has been recently, Bird doesn't cut it - he is indecisive when given a shooting chance but Hourihane, who Warne plays further back is much better at that ( though not necessarily having the energy now to this effectively ). The Max Bird  we knew with incisive passing has long disappeared.

Credit Warne's use of subs...

John Jules is so quick and his play so intelligent  - he needs more time on the pitch

1 hour ago, IlsonDerby said:

If derby churn out more performances like the first 60 minutes yesterday then I’ll be back aboard the Warne train. That was complete domination and a travesty we only went in 1-0 up. Wigan lucky to have nil. 

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With our current unbeaten run should we not be back on board the Warne train by now? What more could they be doing given the accepted limitations of some of the squad? Definite progression  in performance in the last few games. More settled team selection and the individual improvement of players like Wilson gives hope that we can be more consistent.

1 hour ago, Srg said:

Unfortunately, Hourihane and Bird are untouchable. Can play s**** for weeks on end and never get hooked. Wasn’t Fornah’s best game, but he was no worse than a handful of others tonight. 

But Fornah was worse than Bird and Hourihane tonight. Sadly Fornah was ineffective, giving the ball away too often ( not that Bird and Hourihane don't also give the ball away) and running into blind alleys.

46 minutes ago, DanS1992 said:

Is it me or does the team look like it lacks unity? (Lot’s of moaning between players, miss communication…). They just don’t look like they are enjoying things. Even Hourihane’s celebration was rather subdued.

Team spirit and togetherness has been good throughout - hard to know what you are on about.  "lots of moaning" seems very far off the mark to me.

Barkhuizen poor tonight  - offside more than once , giving the ball away and slack defensively

20 hours ago, jimtastic56 said:

I don’t understand why fans get hysterical over the opposition wasting a bit of time . It all gets added on at the end , that’s why we are having 100 minute games . What is annoying is pro players hoofing crosses into the crowd when you just have to keep the ball for a few more minutes.

But did the 6 minutes at the end reflect the amount of time wasting? There was only 1 min at end of 1st half when delay from injury easily covered that.

25 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

Im not having a pop or looking for an argument .. cos have had enough of that for one night 

but just asking u genuinely, u say she was poor 

but the nml one was as sure as day yellow, the CH one was also the same .. aka overran it and launched recklessly into the challenge and the sibley one was sibley being his usual reckless self.. so no complaints on her there.

birds obviously was too

the collins / their fella one probably could have avoided yellows but lets be honest anytime players do that at any level its always “here a yellow each, now feck off” 

so its the pen, which tom barks has already said in interview “wardy got caught the wrong side and clipped him” and the nml where the defender played the ball and caught him on the follow through which shaun barker and rams tv didnt think it was either

i dont think she did a lot wrong tbh,  our players though … good grief

I didnt think we warranted more than a point but goes without saying gutted to not have walked away with more 

But onwards and upwards 

She did NOWT to address their timewasting or taking throwins or free kicks  well beyond the actual position. 

21 hours ago, YorkshireRam said:

Slightly confused how someone can be ''behind the team'' when calling for the manager to be sacked? The manager is part of the team, more than that, he is the leader of the team, if you're calling for his head then how are you in any way ''behind'' them as a whole, you're opposed to them at that point, no?

This winning streak always seemed likely to happen to me, hence why I've consistently stated patience was needed. But others let impatient petulance creep in. I wonder whether those folk have learned something from this spell about not speaking too soon, especially when voicing negativity.

And the FA cup defeat never happened  9 and of course can't be put right by our current improved form. Grow up.

1 hour ago, Andicis said:

But that's exactly what I said - you can't use it as a predictor of a single game, plenty of games have weird and wonderful xGs. It's generally a way to view sustainability of a string of results though, and provides context to a performance. It's an interesting and useful statistic. 

So if its not a predictor for a single game, why quote the figures for a single game rather than some longer average .... though that would be even more pointless.

1 hour ago, Andicis said:

It means in the average game you'd expect them to have scored 1 and us to have scored 2. We had better than average finishing, and they had worse than average finishing. Indicates that it was a closer game than the score line would suggest. As I'll say yet again, xG is an overview that is more accurately used in the long run, nothing is without flaws but it's a stat that provides more useful context. 

No , just no. 

6 hours ago, The_Sheriff said:

At halftime he went to a 3/5 at the back v Bristol and we were far better second half. First half with 4 we were poor. 

The likes of Wilson and Ward are tailor made for the wing back role where nyambe is more suited to a 4 (rb)

Basically there are situations where having the 3/5 is beneficial (as there is for 4 sometimes) so asking to drop it completely i can't get on board with.

It was the switching of the position of mendez laing that made the difference in the second half, nowt to do with 3 cbs Warne told us that himself.

16 minutes ago, Andicis said:

Scoff at data all you want, that's what all the top clubs operate with. You were the one to mention shots on target as an accurate barometer of chance creation, xG is a far superior metric, you just don't like the answer it gives. 

So what would the Xg of Garnacho's goal for Man Utd on Sunday have been?  - very small one would judge, yet it was a superb goal. Can't think of any interview with Premier League coaching staff where I have ever heard them use Xg to rate a performance.  Its not a good statistic because there are too many variables which determine the quality of play. Xg measures "something" but that  is only a limited part . How many variables are actually used when computing the Xg  values?

2 hours ago, Anag Ram said:

Hourihane spends most of his time in the back four where can collect it, play a five yard pass and have an easy life. Bird has quality but never wants the ball and Smith spends his time upfront with his back to goal and just gets outmuscled. His pain threshold is zero. 
The three off them are never close together so we just play it to the wings and hope, which is an odd plan with the forwards we have.

We looked more dynamic with Fornah on and Wilson improved us too.

Do you think Hourihane does what you describe because he just fancies doing that or because its where the manager instructs him to play? He has much more to offer in a more forward position.

1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said:

I don't really know where Crewe are at in their project, how long their team has been together, how many of their players have come through their youth system etc

Of course on paper I'm sure we have a better team.

These results happen in cup games I'm afraid, always have, always will. Its just a shame its happened to us now when (a) we could probably do with the funds from a cup run and; (b) the pile on brigade were waiting with their knives sharpened, still seething from us beating Barnsley at the weekend 

There are some managers who have the skill to motivate their team for cup ties year after year ........  N Clough ?

Warnes management for the important cup competitions this season has been dire and potentially costly.

Your snide comment about the pile on brigade is untrue and ignores the mentality of supporting a team life long. Looking forward to Tuesday's performance with optimism after the excellent performance against Barnsley, most of us will have been severely disappointed listening to the match commentary. Listening to Warne's cod psychology after the game was painful. Where is the ambition in the man? His own comments admit he fails to motivate the team  ..(doesn't know why the players don't follow his instructions) and managers have to take the rap for such inconsistency in performance.

4 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

I don't recall Alex Ferguson ever doing that, pretty sure it was the officials fault every time they didn't win.

You say the Crewe performance was poor but that isn't really backed up by the statistics. 71% possession and 32 shots away from home does not shout out poor performance does it.

Maybe its just that Warne and some fans have different barometers on what is a good performance for a League One team?

 

The barometer is that we were within 2 minutes of going out of the competition and could well have been out . Sadly that happened last night  and we clearly learnt nothing from the first tie about how to combat a team which  packs the defence.

3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

On the assumption that you're referring to Alex Ferguson, he would never publicly criticise his team.

Surely he can ( and should) speak of "the players" or the"team" not playing well and criticise them, or even use the royal "we". Pretty sure Alex Ferguson did that. The trouble is Warne often thinks we played well when the performance was poor e.g. the away game at Crewe.

3 hours ago, tomsdubs said:

No Mendez-Laing zero invention. That was such a poor performance.

Warnes tactics supress invention.

This is sad news. B4 set us all an example in optimism and was able to express the love for the club we all share

but to do so in such an open, uncomplicated  way. I hope we have a way of expressing this loss at the next home league game.