DRBee

I think to talk of splashing the cash is not really a valid claim. As part of the club's new business plan and risk management it could be argued that costs of spending on an experienced manager were part of a valid response to the risks and financial costs of being stuck in League ! for many seasons. As I recall at the time the plan was that we might be in League for 3 seasons before we were able to gain promotion back to the Championship. Linking David Clowes behaviour as owner to that of Mel Morris, just won't do. Morris was a maverick who once he was owner did what he wanted without having sufficient people round him to advise him. The Clowes operation seems to be very different to me. What you term as Clowes's gamble paying off might be viewed by others as careful planning delivering results.

that is setting Warne up for a fall. With the right recruitment it may be that we are midtable at best, given the limitations on funding ( due to the need not to do a Mel Morris) .

I too didn't want a pitch invasion but was wrong. It was a thing of beauty and seeing it again now from all angles on peoples vids all the more so. The sight of the fans building up on the touch line in the minutes before gave it an impressive inevitability. Whilst joyously happy the invasion seemed to express all our pent up rage and frustration at what happened to us in the lead up to relegation. Has there been a better celebration in Pride Park? The only downside is that the season is now over.

Great video. Starts with Clowes who still deserves all our gratitude and then at the end the rare sight of a positively joyous smiling Paul Warne Respect to him for doing what only the better managers achieve by having success at more than one club.

You may not be a thug but this is rather selfish - the fanbase attending will not all be young or fit enough to even do it and then will miss out on the players tour round. Do you think the players and their kids will come on the pitch with uncontrolled supporters milling around.? What do you think the players will prefer?

Utter tripe = was tripe when some said it then and its tripe now. Clough's football had been boring and cautious for months N Clough could never have produced the form we showed that season with McClaren (And he hasn't at any of his later clubs) MM sacked Mac.

And the central defenders never kick clearances into the air or head backwards? We've all seen it and not too long ago. To be fair Cashin is so good he often puts right the mistakes he makes. Sibley will be useful next season if he stays.

We.ve been too cautious, too defensive letting them come on to us. Collins missing in action from the penalty area

Its fine to have this discussion now despite the blind-faithers. Another question that affects our confidence for next year ( whatever division we are in ) is how to explain the regular large variation in the quality of our performances within a few games. The Stevenage performance itself, our FA cup exit and the recent performance at Northampton and a few others show how inconsistent our performances can be. Lets hope Cambridge wont be another example. Warne could easily use our depressing number if injuries to explain this inconsistency but Warne and his management team have to take some responsibility given their role in team selection , formation and player motivation.

And that required the snide references to Warne, Bradley and Hourihane did it? An evasive response.

Naive at best. There are many examples in our clubs history and of other clubs where a managerial change ( without change in players) leads to an upturn or drop in performance and matches won. The quality of the players may place a ceiling on performance but there examples where a new managers have drastically raised the performance level of what was previously viewed as an average squad of players.

Typical Warne play. Hoofball and avoidance of playing through midfield ruled our play this evening . Not enough of our players in the opposition penalty area. and crosses from wide going to nobody.

It will be unlistenable if that Darren what'sisname has any part in it.😞

No you are just wasting everyone's time and misapplying what can be deduced from the Xg stat of single instances. An earlier poster said of Tuesday night " it was a proper football match " , something most of us would agree with ( though probably not you). No stats you are likely to come up with can offer a descriptor of a 'proper good football match' , and in any case why do we need such stats given we are supporters not coaches and the stats don't add anything useful. Perhaps we need a separate "stats" section of the forum where folk can swap statistics and talk the same language without polluting the match threads. When you write "In other words that we have scored more and conceded fewer than would normally be due for our play (the opposite of last year). You call that skill, I call it sampling variability" I don't think this means what you think at all. A goal scored from a low-rated goal scoring chance is a real event. Analyses show that some teams show great discrepancy in their goals scored compared to the rating of their goal scoring chances and it can happen over lengthy periods of time. This is not down to "sampling variability" . It is the system not conforming to the model, not due to chance, but due to imperfections in the model being used.

Its very simple .... football matches are scored by goals. This post coming after your Bolton posts shows your real motivation. You could surely have gone to the trouble of including some dodgy stats in your response. You are getting lazy.

Sibley doesn't get the support that Wilson gets cos Blackett Taylor aint too hot defensively

But he can have breakfast an hour later !

Crewtons post stated that Warnes career stats as manager were better than Robbins in terms of win rate. My post suggested a different , more relevant metric. Why should Warnes failures in the Championship be ignored? But your response reminds us that Robbins was able to keep his promoted side in the Championship, and quite successfully ..

Bet Robins Championship stats are better than Warnes.

It may be that Warne does try something that works but sadly he then reverts back to type when he forgets why he was getting the players to play that way. We've gone through this cycle of events several times this season.

Yes It was the most consistent season in our history ., ,,,

Just bitterballs - grow up.

We have retreated to the failings of the Exeter and Charlton games. Down to the manager and his obsession with Bradley and an over-defensive back 3 formation ( which can be attacking as in our recent wins). In hindsight the loss of Gayle seems so significant. Warne says in his interview that we didn't get the wing backs forward enough -- whose fault is that?

We'd have been better dispensing with a back 3 and not just cos Bradley has been awful

Thompsons use of the ball has been atrocious