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I like Warne. Find him down to earth, easy to listen to, passionate, clearly an intelligent guy. 
But I’m a bit disappointed with the football we play under him.
I may be alone in this.
But I preferred Rosenior. We may still have lost 0-2 to Ipswich, but we probably would have done so with a greater outlook as we dominate the ball, create more chances, give the younger players more game time.
When we lose under Warne it’s just depressing. The football is generally crap and we look like we have no real identity.
When we lost under Rosenior (especially at Charlton) we still looked a good side. 
I thought we were looking good under Warne but the more you analyze it, you realize our amazing run was down to playing crap teams more than anything Warne actually did.
Under Rosenior we picked up two points from Lincoln, Shrews and Fleetwood away. Horrible results. Yet in the reverse fixtures at home under Warne, we still only picked up two points and arguably played worse.

We are tired.
Playing gas out football with a small squad aged under 23 or over 30 has caught up with us. 
We may have to play more fringe players as we limp on, hopefully hanging on a top 6 finish.
 

It will be a while before you find me getting on an unmanned bus.
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Sure, here's a challenging quiz with 5 difficult questions about Derby County:
4. Which Scottish striker, who later went on to manage the club, scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992?
Answers:
4. Tommy Johnson scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Tommy Johnson never managed the club and he is not Scottish
I apologize for the error in my previous answer. You are correct that Tommy Johnson never managed Derby County. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Here's an updated answer to question 4:
Which Scottish striker scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later went on to manage the club from 1995 to 1997?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Dean Saunders, and he later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Dean Saunders is Welsh and never managed the club either
I apologize for my mistake in the previous answer. You are correct that Dean Saunders is Welsh and he did not manage Derby County. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Billy Davies, and he later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008.
That's not correct, try again
I apologize again for the mistake in my previous answer. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Duncan Ferguson, and he later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009.
Nope
I apologize again for my previous incorrect answers. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013?
Answer: The Scottish striker who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, is Gordon Strachan. He later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013.

It will be a while before you find me getting on an unmanned bus.
.................................
Sure, here's a challenging quiz with 5 difficult questions about Derby County:
4. Which Scottish striker, who later went on to manage the club, scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992?
Answers:
4. Tommy Johnson scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Tommy Johnson never managed the club and he is not Scottish
I apologize for the error in my previous answer. You are correct that Tommy Johnson never managed Derby County. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Here's an updated answer to question 4:
Which Scottish striker scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later went on to manage the club from 1995 to 1997?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Dean Saunders, and he later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Dean Saunders is Welsh and never managed the club either
I apologize for my mistake in the previous answer. You are correct that Dean Saunders is Welsh and he did not manage Derby County. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Billy Davies, and he later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008.
That's not correct, try again
I apologize again for the mistake in my previous answer. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Duncan Ferguson, and he later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009.
Nope
I apologize again for my previous incorrect answers. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013?
Answer: The Scottish striker who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, is Gordon Strachan. He later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013.

It will be a while before you find me getting on an unmanned bus.
.................................
Sure, here's a challenging quiz with 5 difficult questions about Derby County:
4. Which Scottish striker, who later went on to manage the club, scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992?
Answers:
4. Tommy Johnson scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Tommy Johnson never managed the club and he is not Scottish
I apologize for the error in my previous answer. You are correct that Tommy Johnson never managed Derby County. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Here's an updated answer to question 4:
Which Scottish striker scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later went on to manage the club from 1995 to 1997?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Dean Saunders, and he later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Dean Saunders is Welsh and never managed the club either
I apologize for my mistake in the previous answer. You are correct that Dean Saunders is Welsh and he did not manage Derby County. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Billy Davies, and he later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008.
That's not correct, try again
I apologize again for the mistake in my previous answer. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Duncan Ferguson, and he later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009.
Nope
I apologize again for my previous incorrect answers. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013?
Answer: The Scottish striker who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, is Gordon Strachan. He later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013.

It will be a while before you find me getting on an unmanned bus.
.................................
Sure, here's a challenging quiz with 5 difficult questions about Derby County:
4. Which Scottish striker, who later went on to manage the club, scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992?
Answers:
4. Tommy Johnson scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Tommy Johnson never managed the club and he is not Scottish
I apologize for the error in my previous answer. You are correct that Tommy Johnson never managed Derby County. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Here's an updated answer to question 4:
Which Scottish striker scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, and later went on to manage the club from 1995 to 1997?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Dean Saunders, and he later managed the club from 1995 to 1997.
Dean Saunders is Welsh and never managed the club either
I apologize for my mistake in the previous answer. You are correct that Dean Saunders is Welsh and he did not manage Derby County. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Billy Davies, and he later became the manager of the Scottish national team in 2008.
That's not correct, try again
I apologize again for the mistake in my previous answer. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who scored 168 goals in 355 appearances for Derby County between 1984 and 1992, later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009?
Answer: The Scottish striker who scored 168 goals for Derby County is Duncan Ferguson, and he later became the manager of the Scottish Premier League club Motherwell in 2009.
Nope
I apologize again for my previous incorrect answers. Here is an updated answer to the question:
Which Scottish striker, who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013?
Answer: The Scottish striker who played for Derby County from 1987 to 1990, scoring 61 goals in 112 appearances, is Gordon Strachan. He later became the manager of the Scotland national team in 2013.

There is no control. 
Even in the games we have won we haven't controlled the game properly. 

I don't get all this BBC is special, no it isn't. It's just another TV service. I object to being forced to pay for something I don't want. If it was so good let people pay for it on a subscription basis or introduce advertising. 
I can understand historically why a TV license made sense. All the infrastructure had to be paid for and it was only fair that those using it paid for it. Times have changed and the BBC is a dinosaur of an organisation.

The BBC needs to get it into their heads that people aren't drawn to watch match of the day because Lineker is hosting with shearer and co rambling on between matches, they want to watch the football. Likewise, people don't turn on BBC breakfast to see Munchetty and Stayt preening themselves and giving us their opinion, they want to know what's happening in the world.
There are many talented people in the country who would do their jobs for a fraction of the price or even for free.

95% of the BBC News coverage and editorial comment comes directly from The Guardian, so probably correct. I remember John Humphrey’s saying how he asked when the editorial meeting was, on his first day on the Today Programme and the Editor just chucked him a copy of The Guardian.

Crazy thing is that a lot of their ‘target’ audience don’t listen to radio and don’t watch TV. My lad is 22 - he streams any content he wants via Spotify or Netflix/Amazon Prime - he’s simply not interested in anything the BBC produces yet they insist that they want to produce more content for his generation and sod the older folk who rely on local radio and TV…..

BBC TV has been bloated beyond belief for years. Sometimes working in a studio nextdoor for ITV, you could only drool at the BBC green rooms compared with ours. To make a comparable show, they would employ 4x the number of staff. And they totally distorted the market paying massive salaries to presenters and staff, so now everyone and their dog earns more than the Prime Minister. And that's before you talk about their political bias which has understandably made enemies for them in government, so made even more funding harder to come by.
It's such a shame for local radio, which costs so little, is having to pay the price for their largesse.

The sort of decision that tends to define an ownership. 
Like sacking Clement as we hovered precariously in 5th. 
I really hope Clowes has got this one right. My head says he has. My gut says different. 

Very, very disappointed. Rosenior was exactly the type of manager I wanted at Derby...progressive, bright, levelheaded & wanted to play the game the right way.
I cannot accept that 7th place, only outside the playoffs on goal difference is a disappointing position to be after 9 games & would love to hear the rationale for Rosenior not being given the chance to manage until Christmas at least. Performances have largely been good (with the only real exception of Lincoln) & only poor finishing has prevented us from being 4th/5th - that would surely have improved as the team became more familiar with each other.
It was also apparent that the players bought into Rosenior. He was directly responsible for bringing some of our more impressive names to the club & the squad adapted very quickly to his style of play. I'm really not sure what more he could have done & to be offered a coaching demotion after that is really disrespectful. He wasn't a caretaker manager & I'd be amazed if he stayed.
As for Paul Warne, have to smile at some of the optimism from those who automatically equate any change as progress. If you thought Rowett was tough to watch, just wait until you've seen a few weeks of Warne's direct & basic style. His teams are frankly anti-football - hit into the channels, horrible agricultural midfielders better without the ball than with it & an obsession with set pieces. Irrespective of Rotherham's resources, it is a conscious decision to set teams up to play in that style & I would think it naive to hope Warne is going to play better football given Derby's greater resources - especially galling given the patient style we have employed to date. It smacks of another Clement-Pearson-McClaren-Rowett swing in philosophy.
Some may also point to Warne's promotion record but below is his full record since taking charge of Rotherham in 2016/17 - nothing in here that indicates he has the pedigree to make Derby successful from a long term perspective;

Out of the Mel playbook as completely the wrong fit.
Jewell and Pearson both had really high stock when appointed, but wrong fit to style of play and squad.
Happy to be proved wrong, will support him but I’m massively struggling to get my head around this 

This reeks. 
We are 7th in the table, joint points with 6th after 9 games with a squad that was almost completely rebuilt. I really don't know what the expectation was. I understand that 7th isn't where we want to finish but surely given that you'd expect our form to improve you'd say its enough to get more than 9 games. 
Rosenior would have every right to feel hard done by here. 
Then it's all for Paul Warne. Like fair enough he's done a decent job at Rotherham but that's been his only job and it's been there 6 years, hes had time to grow into a role with the club and influence things in a direction that suits. It's misguided at best to think he will be able to walk in here and suddenly have us firing on all cylinders especially when you consider that stylistically its a complete lurch.
This feels like an attempt at nailing our colours for someone who Clowes feels is a certainty for promotion based on that's he's good Rotherham promoted. And to be honest from the outside it looks like a shaky bet especially as I worry its because Warne is flavour of the month with Rotherham in their current position. We'd just about got a squad, all hired by Rosenior all with a certain style of play in mind and now are lurching to something that's the opposite. I don't see how at best this causes a large amount of disruption at the start and in the worst case scenario there is a non zero chance this tanks our season.
It's also a decision with no forethought or planning beyond just get promoted especially given that the academy is set up playing football in a way that won't be conducive to how the first team will now be setup.
All of this from the people complaining over possession football, to hailing the decision to bring in a "no-nonsense" "pragmatic" manager who's only had success at one club who he spent a bunch of time at had Pearson mark 2 written all over it.

Don’t really know what to make of all this. First thing I’d say is it’s a brave decision by Clowes, that is for certain. 
Rosenior has been a class act and has stuck with us through a lot. Ignoring everything prior to him as a manager though, and how would you say he had done thus far? Ok, I’d say.
He’s not pulled up trees but you could see a style of play emerging. Whether that would be enough in this league I don’t know. The players we signed nearly all cited him as a reason, and he was still restricted given the age and profile of players we could get.
The away form has been a huge concern, there’s no doubt about that either. Could he have solved it? Potentially.
All in all, I am surprised. Thought he had done enough to continue. Also surprised the stability and continuity wasn’t valued more. That said, if Clowes didn’t see a value in that with Rosenior and wanted a different guy for that, why wait any longer? Get your guy and start planning for January and give yourself the best chance  
As for Paul Warne. Knows his way in this league and seems to punch above a bit in Championship, on a very limited budget. Not the most exciting football in the world, but I think I’d take winning football first and foremost in this league. 
 

This has p****d me off to be honest, LR stuck by us through all the shiiiit, he could've walked and took the Blackpool job more than likely knowing Rooney was already leaving. I cant imagine he'll stick around on the coaching staff with his pride damaged from this, he deserved longer.

So lets bring in a manager who has a style which is the complete opposite of all of our players.
This has Nigel Pearson written all over it.
We need to wait to see what comes out on the official site, and what LR's comments are, but honestly, I'm so disappointed and frustrated right now.
Is David Clowes playing Football Manager again and falling into the same trap that Mel Morris did? Does the power get to people?
At times the football may have been a little frustrating but we're looking for stability. LR was bringing that and he had no issue in attracting players to the club. I wonder how all those new signings feel right now?
Very down right now but I await the official comments on the clubs site before making a full opinion of the situation.
 

Can't say I'm impressed with this. I liked LR and thought he was doing pretty well in his first real job.  If he's wanted to go of his own accord fair enough relieve him of his duties, if not I'm slightly bemused. 

Ironic.
We're not here to mess around but we're going to give someone the job on an interim basis, let them develop a certain style of play suited to the players we could get (the only players we could get) and then, 2 months after the start of the season, we're going to look to employ a manager who's style of play is the polar opposite of the one we've done all that work on and which doesn't suit the players we've signed (the only players we could get).
Sounds suspiciously like messing around to me!

Do we have the players for ‘winning football’, as you put it? We’ve spent the summer signing players with a system in mind.
This has a bit of the Wassall to Pearson to McClaren to Rowett about it.

Warne also seems like a bit of an accident waiting to happen.
Zero goodwill with Derby fans, only ever had one job where he seems to be good in one league and very limited in the league above. Style of play always struck me as quite Rowett-y and probably more suited to a smaller underdog style club.

I get the impression Hourinhane is going to be one of those players that doesn’t get involved all that much in open play, certainly not as much as the likes of Bird, Smith, NML or Sibley in terms of possession, ball retention or ball carrying, but he will be one of those players who makes that telling difference whether it’s a final pass, long-range effort or set piece.
I wouldn’t say he is a luxury player because that would be unfair to the work he does off the ball. But he is going to be a unique attacking threat in League One and he would walk into every other team in the league because he has that match-winning ability.