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It's the same with NHS and key workers. TV and social media is a constant bombardment of who loves the NHS workers most. Who can care the most. Who can give the most. I think on Thursday night I will climb up on the roof to bang a drum and after that I will sacrifice my youngest child to the Health service Gods!!
Like, I get the gesture. I get that for some people it's a realisation that they have never shown how they appreciate the nhs. But there's actually using events to change the way you look at things and then there's using events as a piggy back to centre stage. 
It's not genuine, it's worse than not caring at all. It's self indulgent ******** and using these people you care about as platform to sell yourself to the masses. 
How many of the Bamfords clapping on a Thursday night were hauling pasta off the shelves while nurses were doing extra hours? 
How many of the Bamfords clapping on a Thursday night will be bitching about waiting times in A&E or moaning about patient care or the competence of nhs workers. 
It's the sickening. People talking poo. Shaping situations and creating outcomes but they're motivations are insincere. 
It was "who loves the nhs the most" 
Now it'll be "who is doing most for equality" 
It would be nice if people actually stopped shouting from the rooftops the most heartwarming poo they could think of and actually quietly plotted away to make a difference in their corner of the world. 
No. We'll have no composure. Just shout "Injustice!!" louder than the next man. 
Then you'll get some good karma points and feck all will change. 
Change come from positivity. Real positivity from real people making heartfelt changes, however big or small. 

It’s a bit sad when people have to blame someone for their actions or look for someone or something to blame. If people actually took responsibility for their own actions things would be a lot better.

Overrated: The Clash
Underrated: Conflict

Beer battered haddock with sautéed potatoes and a crab mayonnaise, all washed down with a glass of Eight Arch Corbel IPA.

That's the worst one so far.  I need a lie down .

There is a third. The UK is an island and can’t easily escape the virus. I am taking a dinghy from Littlehampton to France, and then onto Spain by container transfer.

Didn’t come back immediately as I went for a walk. Your remarks in my view are political, but that doesn’t matter as long as they are in the right thread. Plenty of time for political views, of all persuasion, that way I might forms a balanced opinion on matters.  Nothing entrenched about me.

As for you continuing to bash the Government for keeping you in the house for 10 weeks why do you keep perpetuating that myth?  You have had the same freedoms as everyone else over the same period. You could of gone out of the house for exercise for an hour. You could have done essential shopping, or gone the Chemist, etc. Whilst you were strongly advised to remain in the house because of pre-existing medical conditions that put you at more danger to the virus, no one told you to not leave your house (and to keep bleating about it). Glad you are making your first steps out, but give it a bit of a rest that you are some modern day Steve McQueen.

sadly the coronavirus has had a severe impact in the business I work in. many of us were told this week that we are now at risk of redundancy and will be entering a consultation period shortly.
sad days.

So in the last couple of pages of this thread it’s been mentioned that it’s  ok to target his house because he is vile, his appearance is that of a gimp, that he is a vile arrogant and emotionless person, that no matter what he says or evidence he provides it is a lie lie lie. That for being nervous whilst undergoing a very difficult live press conference this somehow makes him a bad person.
And that if other fellow Derby county fans dare question any of the above statements, dare to wait to hear both sides of the story, dare to even take time to give ourselves a chance to fully investigate the situation before passing judgement that we are then somehow the inexcusable and embarrassing human beings that should get a grip!
It’s all rather backwards and no wonder that political debate is now so widely avoided. 

I was a poster on a another forum(Popside)the vitriol was some what of threats and violent threats, Verbal abuse, Ridicule, Mob rule and more, But I never used the ignore button, I felt that if I did then they've won, It was politics, Immigration and of course the Brexit debate that was the catalist, I got fed up of the name calling and the like and eventually stopped posting on there a year or so ago.
This board has a tougher line, One or 2 of my posts have disapeared, Not a problem from me, Maybe it broke house rules or maybe I did not click on "submit" it's a bugger being old 😁.
If I vehemently oppose a poster then I do my best to post without belittling the post/poster or I just read on and move to another thread, Age has mellowed me, And I find getting angry and living alone are 2 positions I don't want be, So I don't get angy anymore and I enjoy living on my own.
I'm still amazed that some can take a persons opinion to heart 😊
 

How do you know. Thought you had everyone who doesn't agree with you on ignore

That cabal is very small over Cummings though. Even @G STAR RAM is saying he should resign.
I know this politics thread isn't always popular, and some people on here don't always follow the guidelines/rules, but I actually think it's a great place to hear and debate opposing views.
We are on this site because we all support Derby, not because we have certain political leanings. Finding common ground is a good way to listen to people and understand their points of view.
On this Cummings issue, the national barometer of DCFC Fans forum thinks he should go. So he probably will.

I'm getting some stickers made up to put on the work fridges "certified Boris free" and "this fridge is checked every 2 hours for prime ministers". 

Dead easy beef stir fry tonight with spicy green birdseye chillies buried in there somewhere. 

BBQ pork shoulder, cooked low and slow for 5 hours and 1 hour resting. Gravy from the drippings, cider and apple juice.. Tender as and the gravy was excellent.. 

Griddled dry aged Dorset rump steak, wedges, griddled tomatoes with a mushroom garlic and Stilton sauce, all washed down with a glass of vino rosso passito.
 

Pretty much the same as me, We the electorate are a strange bunch, We hoop and holla with delight or derision when the left/right wing media dig the enemy out, The same for the internet but with venom and vitriol, Politics is a cesspit full of individuals that see us as halfwits that are easy to be manipulated, We'll stand right by them even if they're wrong because we can't have the opposition be seen to win.
I'm sure there's some decent People on either side of the house when they've not got there MPs hats on 👍👎, But when they're in the chamber let battle commence, And it's all there for us to see, There was a time when Parliament looked to be somewhat honest, We had a good speaker at times and genuine belief that MPs can be trusted, Then it changed, We saw what MPs are really there for...themselves, The expenses scandel opened up a treasure trove of gobsmacking greed, From ornaments in duckponds to whisteria around your house, A taxi ride to the shops down the road to a £1.50 sandwich, 2nd homes rented out or your partner charging your bill for watching porn on TV, Nationlism drove a wedge between friends and family, The SNP, Plaid Cymru, Green party, Lib Dems, The DUP, The ERG, Momentum, Remain, Leave, We've now been pigeon holed into factions where we think our Politics are and belong.
There's no Left, Right or Centre anymore...there's you'll do as we say, But we have got wise to you, Be afraid, Be very afraid, We have good memories.

"Asking Boris to sack Cummings is like asking Emu to sack Rod Hull."

University College London professor Susan Michie, a member of Sage, told Sky News there was no question that what Cummings had done broke the guidance. “It appears that three rules have been broken. One is leaving the house when you’re symptomatic, another is travelling far distances and staying overnight elsewhere, and the third is having a person – in this case a child – go from one household to another household. The problem about having different rules for different people is that it breaks the trust of the people in those who are issuing the guidelines.”

Completely your prerogative but I tend to forget the rest of the points in a post when you try and do some completely irrelevant tentative link to Brexit.

I totally disagree, it’s a project that’s been ruined by corporate globalisationists...the idea is sound, it”s actually a lack of socialism that has been its undoing...to many Macrons, Merkels & up until now, the UKs chosen loon.
It’s as a result of these kind of people that the redistribution of wealth hasn’t happened, austerity still haunts far to many areas of the bloc, workers rights are still being stealthily eroded....& it’s also my belief that to often Countries have been invited to join, mainly so the wealthier western EU countries can fuel their industries with cheap labour from said countries.
Environmentally despite having the wealth & public support, these duckers have set targets that are way to soft, their CAPs a deadly plague on biodiversity. Animal welfare standards are set way to low...bans on things like battery farms are a shambles, as demonstrated by the rise of the CAFOs, & bans on antibiotics in meat production a duck wits utopia , everything is easily circumvented because theirs no real will to actually want to change things... to much cash at stake...far better to throw up smoke screens by taking aim at others who are simply even more shockingly diabolical  ...just because some standards are less shizz than others....doesn’t make them good ffs.
Reform of the organisation can’t happen until the corporate globalisationists are ducked off, & there’s no sign of that happening any time soon. Chances to reform come & go, like the 2018 CAP review...biodiversity going to the dogs, subsidies weighted to the landed gentry, soil health on its knees, green houses gases out of kilter...but they just carry on regardless because it suits the affluent & big business...just sugar coat the turd for the gullible masses to lap up...utter f in bamfords...
Socialism is definitely not the problem...the EU has never been socialist it’s always been right leaning...but it could be the solution for what is a great idea...unfortunately just like has happened in this country, the right has infiltrated deep into the left In most of the bloc, to the point we’re the choice now is mostly which right wing option do you want ...Any true left wing leaders are systematically torn down by the media, & hindered by the new breed of slightly softer right wingers who loiter in their parties...Eventually being rendered unelectable in the eyes of much of the public.
An end to the stockpiling of wealth, an end to austerity, proper workers rights, a greener world for all species has, I believe the best prospect for success with socialsm....or better still in my opinion, social anarchism...but this would need a revolution in the current human mindset, the likes of which I won’t see in my lifetime...but socialism would be a very positive start.
The EU would of looked so much different if socialism had in fact driven the project..but it hasn’t, & its baalocks to suggest otherwise.

I totally disagree, it’s a project that’s been ruined by corporate globalisationists...the idea is sound, it”s actually a lack of socialism that has been its undoing...to many Macrons, Merkels & up until now, the UKs chosen loon.
It’s as a result of these kind of people that the redistribution of wealth hasn’t happened, austerity still haunts far to many areas of the bloc, workers rights are still being stealthily eroded....& it’s also my belief that to often Countries have been invited to join, mainly so the wealthier western EU countries can fuel their industries with cheap labour from said countries.
Environmentally despite having the wealth & public support, these duckers have set targets that are way to soft, their CAPs a deadly plague on biodiversity. Animal welfare standards are set way to low...bans on things like battery farms are a shambles, as demonstrated by the rise of the CAFOs, & bans on antibiotics in meat production a duck wits utopia , everything is easily circumvented because theirs no real will to actually want to change things... to much cash at stake...far better to throw up smoke screens by taking aim at others who are simply even more shockingly diabolical  ...just because some standards are less shizz than others....doesn’t make them good ffs.
Reform of the organisation can’t happen until the corporate globalisationists are ducked off, & there’s no sign of that happening any time soon. Chances to reform come & go, like the 2018 CAP review...biodiversity going to the dogs, subsidies weighted to the landed gentry, soil health on its knees, green houses gases out of kilter...but they just carry on regardless because it suits the affluent & big business...just sugar coat the turd for the gullible masses to lap up...utter f in bamfords...
Socialism is definitely not the problem...the EU has never been socialist it’s always been right leaning...but it could be the solution for what is a great idea...unfortunately just like has happened in this country, the right has infiltrated deep into the left In most of the bloc, to the point we’re the choice now is mostly which right wing option do you want ...Any true left wing leaders are systematically torn down by the media, & hindered by the new breed of slightly softer right wingers who loiter in their parties...Eventually being rendered unelectable in the eyes of much of the public.
An end to the stockpiling of wealth, an end to austerity, proper workers rights, a greener world for all species has, I believe the best prospect for success with socialsm....or better still in my opinion, social anarchism...but this would need a revolution in the current human mindset, the likes of which I won’t see in my lifetime...but socialism would be a very positive start.
The EU would of looked so much different if socialism had in fact driven the project..but it hasn’t, & its baalocks to suggest otherwise.

I totally disagree, it’s a project that’s been ruined by corporate globalisationists...the idea is sound, it”s actually a lack of socialism that has been its undoing...to many Macrons, Merkels & up until now, the UKs chosen loon.
It’s as a result of these kind of people that the redistribution of wealth hasn’t happened, austerity still haunts far to many areas of the bloc, workers rights are still being stealthily eroded....& it’s also my belief that to often Countries have been invited to join, mainly so the wealthier western EU countries can fuel their industries with cheap labour from said countries.
Environmentally despite having the wealth & public support, these duckers have set targets that are way to soft, their CAPs a deadly plague on biodiversity. Animal welfare standards are set way to low...bans on things like battery farms are a shambles, as demonstrated by the rise of the CAFOs, & bans on antibiotics in meat production a duck wits utopia , everything is easily circumvented because theirs no real will to actually want to change things... to much cash at stake...far better to throw up smoke screens by taking aim at others who are simply even more shockingly diabolical  ...just because some standards are less shizz than others....doesn’t make them good ffs.
Reform of the organisation can’t happen until the corporate globalisationists are ducked off, & there’s no sign of that happening any time soon. Chances to reform come & go, like the 2018 CAP review...biodiversity going to the dogs, subsidies weighted to the landed gentry, soil health on its knees, green houses gases out of kilter...but they just carry on regardless because it suits the affluent & big business...just sugar coat the turd for the gullible masses to lap up...utter f in bamfords...
Socialism is definitely not the problem...the EU has never been socialist it’s always been right leaning...but it could be the solution for what is a great idea...unfortunately just like has happened in this country, the right has infiltrated deep into the left In most of the bloc, to the point we’re the choice now is mostly which right wing option do you want ...Any true left wing leaders are systematically torn down by the media, & hindered by the new breed of slightly softer right wingers who loiter in their parties...Eventually being rendered unelectable in the eyes of much of the public.
An end to the stockpiling of wealth, an end to austerity, proper workers rights, a greener world for all species has, I believe the best prospect for success with socialsm....or better still in my opinion, social anarchism...but this would need a revolution in the current human mindset, the likes of which I won’t see in my lifetime...but socialism would be a very positive start.
The EU would of looked so much different if socialism had in fact driven the project..but it hasn’t, & its baalocks to suggest otherwise.

I totally disagree, it’s a project that’s been ruined by corporate globalisationists...the idea is sound, it”s actually a lack of socialism that has been its undoing...to many Macrons, Merkels & up until now, the UKs chosen loon.
It’s as a result of these kind of people that the redistribution of wealth hasn’t happened, austerity still haunts far to many areas of the bloc, workers rights are still being stealthily eroded....& it’s also my belief that to often Countries have been invited to join, mainly so the wealthier western EU countries can fuel their industries with cheap labour from said countries.
Environmentally despite having the wealth & public support, these duckers have set targets that are way to soft, their CAPs a deadly plague on biodiversity. Animal welfare standards are set way to low...bans on things like battery farms are a shambles, as demonstrated by the rise of the CAFOs, & bans on antibiotics in meat production a duck wits utopia , everything is easily circumvented because theirs no real will to actually want to change things... to much cash at stake...far better to throw up smoke screens by taking aim at others who are simply even more shockingly diabolical  ...just because some standards are less shizz than others....doesn’t make them good ffs.
Reform of the organisation can’t happen until the corporate globalisationists are ducked off, & there’s no sign of that happening any time soon. Chances to reform come & go, like the 2018 CAP review...biodiversity going to the dogs, subsidies weighted to the landed gentry, soil health on its knees, green houses gases out of kilter...but they just carry on regardless because it suits the affluent & big business...just sugar coat the turd for the gullible masses to lap up...utter f in bamfords...
Socialism is definitely not the problem...the EU has never been socialist it’s always been right leaning...but it could be the solution for what is a great idea...unfortunately just like has happened in this country, the right has infiltrated deep into the left In most of the bloc, to the point we’re the choice now is mostly which right wing option do you want ...Any true left wing leaders are systematically torn down by the media, & hindered by the new breed of slightly softer right wingers who loiter in their parties...Eventually being rendered unelectable in the eyes of much of the public.
An end to the stockpiling of wealth, an end to austerity, proper workers rights, a greener world for all species has, I believe the best prospect for success with socialsm....or better still in my opinion, social anarchism...but this would need a revolution in the current human mindset, the likes of which I won’t see in my lifetime...but socialism would be a very positive start.
The EU would of looked so much different if socialism had in fact driven the project..but it hasn’t, & its baalocks to suggest otherwise.

I totally disagree, it’s a project that’s been ruined by corporate globalisationists...the idea is sound, it”s actually a lack of socialism that has been its undoing...to many Macrons, Merkels & up until now, the UKs chosen loon.
It’s as a result of these kind of people that the redistribution of wealth hasn’t happened, austerity still haunts far to many areas of the bloc, workers rights are still being stealthily eroded....& it’s also my belief that to often Countries have been invited to join, mainly so the wealthier western EU countries can fuel their industries with cheap labour from said countries.
Environmentally despite having the wealth & public support, these duckers have set targets that are way to soft, their CAPs a deadly plague on biodiversity. Animal welfare standards are set way to low...bans on things like battery farms are a shambles, as demonstrated by the rise of the CAFOs, & bans on antibiotics in meat production a duck wits utopia , everything is easily circumvented because theirs no real will to actually want to change things... to much cash at stake...far better to throw up smoke screens by taking aim at others who are simply even more shockingly diabolical  ...just because some standards are less shizz than others....doesn’t make them good ffs.
Reform of the organisation can’t happen until the corporate globalisationists are ducked off, & there’s no sign of that happening any time soon. Chances to reform come & go, like the 2018 CAP review...biodiversity going to the dogs, subsidies weighted to the landed gentry, soil health on its knees, green houses gases out of kilter...but they just carry on regardless because it suits the affluent & big business...just sugar coat the turd for the gullible masses to lap up...utter f in bamfords...
Socialism is definitely not the problem...the EU has never been socialist it’s always been right leaning...but it could be the solution for what is a great idea...unfortunately just like has happened in this country, the right has infiltrated deep into the left In most of the bloc, to the point we’re the choice now is mostly which right wing option do you want ...Any true left wing leaders are systematically torn down by the media, & hindered by the new breed of slightly softer right wingers who loiter in their parties...Eventually being rendered unelectable in the eyes of much of the public.
An end to the stockpiling of wealth, an end to austerity, proper workers rights, a greener world for all species has, I believe the best prospect for success with socialsm....or better still in my opinion, social anarchism...but this would need a revolution in the current human mindset, the likes of which I won’t see in my lifetime...but socialism would be a very positive start.
The EU would of looked so much different if socialism had in fact driven the project..but it hasn’t, & its baalocks to suggest otherwise.