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1 hour ago, Red_Dawn said:

Where’s Nicholas Randall in all of this. Was very confident last year

There are some parallels between our case and Forest's, not that many Dogs would like to admit it here.

Derby were in communication with the EFL throughout selling the stadium, all accounts were submitted and processed. Believed everything was fine.

Likewise, Forest in communication with the PL throughout, clearly thought they would be fine.

Both clubs tell the fans they will be fine, we think it's fine, all articles are pure clickbait.

Both clubs proceed to be charged.

Both clubs turn to Nick De Marco.

Both fans think now they will be fine now Nick's on the case.

We were docked points.

tbc......

Obviously the parallels end there as everything went tits up our end going into admin, non payment of HMRC etc. etc.

Part of me wants you to be docked points, finish the season on 10 points and have a decade of arguments over who is the real worst team ever in the Premier League. Singing worst team in history at each other next season. 

At the same time, it just stinks.

It stinks whilst others continue to flaunt the rules for example Man City. 

It stinks if Forest were telling the truth and the PL were in the know the entire time and didn't say, oi, no you can't do that, now it's oi you can't do that.

I find it hard to believe that whoever has been making decisions was told no and continued regardless, unless advised that the punishment for doing so would be minimal by external legal team?

I don't want you lot to go down on a points deduction the same way we did, your players, staff, fans don't deserve that for waiting 6 months or whatever it was for more money. It's not right. 

Rivalry says I should be takin the piss, laughing, finding it hard when you're just another club as where I say the players, staff, fans are getting screwed over for something between a boardroom and governing body.

Look at the way the EFL have treated Reading compared to ourselves, with the independent regulator looming the PL will use both you and Everton to show they can handle it themselves. It's an easier fight than taking on a state backed club where money talks.

Saying all that, who the hell sanctioned that Jonjo Shelvey arrival and departure, dear me. 🤣🤣

Time to stop the curse talk nonsense. 

Never been cursed.

Just as a forum topic does not directly impact results on a pitch.

Some of you lot would put a bad day down to putting your left sock on before the right in the morning.

7 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

So it starts.  Oh dear

Anything that pi55es their deluded fans off is fine in my book. If you drive a coach and horses through the FFP rules, don't be surprised when your house of cards comes crashing down.

The interesting thing here is that NFFC's case shows a clear intent to gain a sporting advantage.

1) They delayed a player sale to deter that player transferring to a competitor team.

2)They gained increased revenue.

3) They used that increased revenue to purchase more players to provide a competitive advantage.

I'd like to think that means they'll kop for the maximum points deduction.

No wonder we thought we were in pole position to sign BJ. Sounds like they knowingly broke the rules in order to block BJs move to us when we probably knew they had little choice but to agree to sell to us in order to avoid sanction.
 

Relegate them!! The arrogance shown by this relatively small club since promotion is borderline embarrassing. Cheating b*******

I’m enjoying not paying my mortgage…because I’m waiting on my £400k accumulator to come in on William Hill, this weekend, guaranteed 
 

Karma, do your thing.

In the majority of cases I would have some sympathy for the fans who cannot effect the mismanagement of their club but just have to deal with the outcome. However in this instance the deluded and self entitled Forrest fans are getting everything they deserve.

I'm sure we all feel a warm glow of pride in the full knowledge that our club has played its part in Forest landing themselves in the brown stuff today.

With this and QPR in the mire the year has started well 

Ensconced on my Laz-e-boy, popcorn to hand. I’m gonna love watching this sh*tshow play out.

The fist of consequences seldom comes lubed, dear Forest and Everton
 

Need some context here, are these comments from Brentford fans?

11 minutes ago, Kernow said:

Sky just put a graphic up for our next 6 games. 4 are away, which doesn't actually worry me anymore, but Lincoln are the only side currently in the top half of those fixtures.

It's a massive opportunity with 6 individual games that on paper you'd say we have to win if we want to get automatic promotion. I'm not expecting 18 points, but it really is a massive opportunity coming up.

In that same timeframe, you have Oxford v Pompey, Oxford v Barnsley, Bolton v Barnsley and Stevenage v Barnsley. There's definitely a chance to try and open up a little bit of a gap to some teams.

12 minutes ago, Boycie said:

Imp ressive last gasp win against Burton. Can we turn it on away at the LNER Ground.

Lets keep on track.

You haven’t turned anything on for a while.

Source?….Your wife.

On 03/10/2023 at 22:49, B4ev6is said:

If derby can sort this home form out and keeping winning away this could our year to win it this season and also get to wrembley final in popper johns troupy but the lads were breath taking  tonight fast moving football at it best hit and move football. We are only one point outside play offs and 7 points off top bring it on.

lets just say once off the bus going Manchester in was really really effort kepted having to stop we the rest took off but my dad kepted waiting for me

flaming neve dammage and in same broken toe I got arthritis to boot sigh

but derby winning cherried me up no end.

I agree 100% mate. 🐏

Never in doubt.

As @B4ev6is said, Pompy we are coming for you.

11 minutes ago, ram59 said:

Question; We're at the end of the window and haven't managed to get anyone in, CM is still available, would you take him?

I would, but then again, I'd take almost anyone in for back up.

Absolutely not. 

Warne has stated he's not a player he's interested in, so would make no sense signing him and saying there you go Paul, here's that player you didn't want as back up, enjoy.

18 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

BRING HIM HOME!

Doubt Norwich will be interested.

22 minutes ago, Mick Harford said:

Simon Stone from the BBC says:

Perhaps the most significant football event of the week will not involve a pitch or players - at least in the conventional sense.

The Premier League will confirm today whether any of the 20 top-flight clubs have breached profit and sustainability rules and if they have been charged.

The process has been streamlined to ensure charges are dealt with during the reporting period in question - to avoid the scenario they have ended up in with Everton, who were deducted 10 points this season even though their breaches took place outside the relevant reporting period.

Worrying for everyone at Goodison Park, Everton and Nottingham Forest are amongst those thought to be most at risk.

And, before anyone mentions Manchester City, their case is historic and so complicated, it would not have been part of the fast-track process even if those rules had been in place when they were charged.

I hear this is all historic and complicated, however we're talking about charges over a period of 14 seasons dating back to 2009, 15 years it's taken.

7 Premier League titles

3 FA Cups

6 League Cups

1 Champions League

All won during those periods, circling back to our own situation where we had Boro and Wycombe wanting to sue us for 'cheating' and costing them positions in the table, successfully getting paid off to go away and the EFL retrospectively changing the rules to throw the book at us.

All those clubs beaten twice by City going down by the 6 points.

All those clubs missing out on European football, titles, trophies. 

It's just insane to me that a club with 115 charges is still carrying on regardless 15 years after their first unpunished offence, you can bet your house that they won't face any retrospective punishment and pay a fine of a few million which will pay for a lavish PL bosses Xmas party.

Forest have been naive to think they can slide a transfer from one accounting period to another, yet in the grand scheme of things, seems a minor infraction whilst other state run clubs stick two fingers up and laugh from afar.

2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

Because P&S isnt really about the integrity of football, its about trying to retain the status quo and stopping anyone from breaking the monopoly that is raking in so much cash for the authorities. 

True.

Part of me wishes they all just buggered off to the Super League now, would English football recover from the loss of those clubs? In time I’m sure.

Makes no sense that a clubs revenue whilst in the Championship is used to form sustainability rules in the league above where the wealth is greater minimising their ability to compete.

That one charge has the potential to relegate meanwhile a club at the other end has 115 hanging over them and as I say, allowed to continue picking up silverware. 

It’s Forest, so I’ll laugh, just as they did when the EFL rewrote the rules punishing us retrospectively, yet we all know it stinks and about time they scrapped this nonsense in favour of a more fair system that would allow clubs to all compete on a level playing field.

Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now?

115 charges which has dragged on for how long?

I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them.

👏👏👏

50 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Not convinced on that one.  He fecked off on day 1 of the new ownership when he realised he wouldn't get his pudgy mitts on a percentage. Before that, we couldn't have lined up a bloke to paint the stands never mind any players.

There was a story where Rosenior was out, spotted Hourihane, sold him the dream.

Rooney was still present at that time.

You have to remember, deals are done over a period of time, will be months of flirting and proposing before anything gets signed.

1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Nelson and Wilson decent, jury still out on Ward….

1 hour ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Ward was a risky one to add to the post, I like him, been unlucky with injuries, can whip a nice ball in so for what Warne wants, at this level, I personally think he’s quality and just hasn’t had the time to really show it. 

Can’t believe I forget Nyambe though. Oops.

Couple of things here, last season was our first in League 1, not only would incoming players be sold the bounce straight back up dream, Rooney was still around whilst deals were being lined up.

18 months later, are we to believe Warne hasn’t signed any quality players, players which have us 2 points off the automatics? Nelson, Wilson, Ward, are they crap?

To top it off and suggest Warne isn’t respected at this level, come on, his CV will earn him respect, let’s not needlessly slander the guy because we’re not signing players that we want and he may have no interest in.

3 pages in and nobody is addressing the elephant in the room here.....

What exactly is Warbeball?

1 hour ago, Jubbs said:

Gonna be honest, if you're 25 (ignore the article, he's not 22) and still playing at that level, it's highly likely you're not League 1 standard. Happily proven wrong but I don't think he's League 1 promotion standard.

You say it best, when you say nothing at all.

Time after time we see comments like this about not being at this level, it's just words.

No matter what we think, Warne may have looked at him and thought he's all that I need.

Life is a rollercoaster, this I promise you, anyway we've got tonight to worry about first. 

Feels a bit tinpot at first due to the U21 teams involvement.

For a club in our position though it’s clearly more winnable than both the FA and League Cup, now we’re so close, be daft not to take it seriously.

Wish they would sack off the U21 teams and bring in Championship clubs, extend the format. Would hold more value in the earlier stages.

So AJ says he’s not interested in a gimmick fight, Ngannou rocks Fury and now he’s a legitimate opponent whilst the pair continue to avoid the fight everyone wants to see…..each other.

I’m sure it will happen eventually out in Saudi when they are 45+ coming out of retirement in an exhibition, when all genuine interest is lost.

We are winning more consistently. That’s the difference.

1 hour ago, inter politics said:

In many ways, I fear Bolton and Posh more than Pompey

It's Mel B you want to be fearful of, she's proper scary