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I had seen some new negativity coming back in with people criticising players, pretty amazing really. He earns 4.5k pw, he can have some off games that's fine by me. Said he had covid and couldn't get fit again, people need to be realists.

I'm still not over how toothless we were against Cardiff, final ball and shooting had relegation fodder written all over them. First time in a while I've felt we are dead and buried. Think it's all over if we wont win Saturday, even then if Reading win then it doesn't mean a whole lot.

My interpretation is the admins are trying to work deals and they don't want anything that could go out and scupper any progress. Admins and EFL have their own agendas and I don't really trust either but we are at a crucial stage now and admins most likely don't want to rock the boat.

Boro 3-1 Rams

FRGS Lawrence

10 minutes ago, Coconut's Beard said:

ps can we not move this wokeism poo to a separate thread? I'm all for fun and games but it just seems particularly out of place on such a thread as this.

What do you mean by wokeism? Or is this just an attack on empathy?

29 minutes ago, Ram a lamb a ding dong said:

Don't shoot me down r,e being ITK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....... but I'm not and never will be.

Only thing I know is that Q are bleeding us dry 

Isn't their fee the same no matter the outcome or time taken? They have no incentive to draw this out as far as i'm aware.

Ismael is just a hoof merchant who just gets big lads running channels playing for set pieces, their squad is wasted on him. No excuses in the champ this season for teams in receipt of parachute payments.

Covid has killed the transfer market, no one is paying significant fees now. Most teams will be right on the line for FFP, look at Boro posting 35m loss in one season. Even if he still had 2 years left on his contract we'd still be looking at a bid of a maximum of 2m from a club with parachute payments.

On 07/11/2021 at 02:20, Bris Vegas said:

Carl Froch was saying his prime version beats Canelo. Not sure about that as Froch struggled against technical fighters such as Andre Ward who could just outbox him.

The 160, 168 and 175 weight divisions are dead right now. Nobody under 180lbs currently can beat Canelo. Nobody.

 

 

Don't see him stepping through LHW that easily to be honest, he fought a faded Kovalev and did OK. Hope we get Canelo vs Beterbiev, should be a good shootout as Beterbiev has shown he can be hurt from clean shots before.

Canelo vs Bivol would be a great match up. Buatsi might end up getting the dream payday eventually if he goes on to claim a world title...

12 hours ago, Jourdan said:

Why is it laughable? Forest were bottom of the league when Hughton left. They had won 1 in 13 league games dating back to April, losing 8 of those. Poor, negative, flaccid football had been a feature. Morale was on the floor and disgruntlement rife, and a previously accomplished manager at this level found his reputation very much damaged. I am not seeing the appeal yet, are you?

On the face of it, yes, a big club, but with question marks over the owner, the transfer strategy and the size and make up of the squad, it can’t have been an easy sell.

I can comprehend very well the restrictions Rooney is and has been working under. Perhaps we just have different ideas on just how debilitating they are.

Entrenched? Me? No. It just takes more to impress me than 4 wins in 30.

We had to beg Morrison to take 3.5k a week, a player that no other club wanted. We got outbid by clubs in League One for free transfers.

If we had no deduction we'd be safe right now despite lacking the quality to score goals. I find your criticism way out of touch with reality.

I had an convo with another fan who was annoyed at Wayne because we weren't winning enough games, stated he was disappointed we didn't get a goal scorer and he insinuated it was the managements fault. When I asked which proven striker he would have signed for 3.5k a week he had no answer.

17 minutes ago, Oldben said:

CEO Chris Kirchner said in an interview. Slync.io has more than 70 employees now and could reach around 200 by the end of the year, he said.

After relocating from California, a North Texas tech firm has raised a large amount of money from investors.

Software provider Slync.io raised $60 million in a Series B round. 

New investors joined Goldman Sachs Growth.

Slync.io now has over $70 million raised for its business. 

In March of last year, the company announced a “A” round of over $10M.

An astute businessman, successful at raising capital when required.

One concern for me is he doesn't seem to have a business partner who fully understands the world of football and the efl.

If he made a comment about forest if he owned the club, the efl could penalise Derby for that.

Plus I think you need more than just money on football you need a detailed understanding of the efl gamesmanship.

Look at what happened to Morris.

Listen to the talksport interview, apparently they were very impressed with his football knowledge and his advisors knowledge.

I did some searching and I found a bit on slync.io going out for investment and the business total valuation was 2.75b, obviously doesn't tell us a lot of about Kirchner's personal wealth but I imagine he's in the same realms of what Mel had.

No indication I can see around he's a billionaire.

18 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said:

If that was part of the transfer deal (and I think it emerged officially at some point), then surely Thorne would always have known about it from his agent, as well as from signing the contracts?

 

Guess George is a liar then.

11 minutes ago, Carnero said:

Probably. Did he offer any show of support to the club and fans with our current plight, or just have a dig at Mel?

He literally got lied to by the club and kept getting fit again but not played. Didn't find out until Rowett told him towards the end they would owe a fee so didn't play him. I don't blame him for being aggrieved to be honest.

13 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Hughton has the higher win %

OK so let's post the most important stats.

Hughton had about 4x the wage budget

Hughton had no transfer embargo

Hughton had no boardroom calamity

Hughton hasnt had his best player do his knee ligaments.

2 hours ago, DCFC Kicks said:

You forgot 

Scholes - Oldham

G. Neville - Valencia

Ince - Blackpool / Blackburn

Phelan - Hull

Stam - Reading

Sheringham - Stevenage 

Like I said, pretty even spread 50/50, I was responding to a post saying ex Man Utd players have a rep for turning in to poor managers. I think this proves that is not the case.

19 hours ago, atherstoneram said:

Ex Man Utd players don't have a good track record either when they have a go at becoming coaches/managers.

Lets see.

Bruce - Noted promotion specialist and considered a good man for a budget side. Had a decent career.

Giggs -  Did OK with Wales to be fair despite his personal qualities.

Hughes - Took Blackburn in to European football, had a reasonable management career with some big jobs.

Blanc - Won 8 trophies with PSG.

Keane - Does have a promotion to his name but in the end very average manager.

Robson - Oversaw the greatest escape in Prem history, other than that very average manager.

Strachan - Won 6 trophies in Scotland and wasn't too bad in the Prem.

Obviously a number of ex-players that weren't great but it seems a reasonable balance of success to me. Shall we list the Dutch managers or should we just save some time?

2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

Bielik was injured under ‘my boy’ Cocu.

I’m not even criticising Rooney. 

I’m defending Cocu when people say Rooney has had it much harder, or any other criticism that has gone his way.

The comments re Rooney are simply because people are comparing them both.

I’ll stick up for Cocu all day long as I genuinely liked the guy. Yeah, the football at times wasn’t great, but he’s the only manager we’ve had since Nigel Clough that has put Derby first before personal ambition.

The games when Bielik was fit Cocu turned him in to a mistake ridden mess, also played him at CB which ended badly. I wanted Cocu to succeed because he seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Dutch coaches rarely succeed in Britain and he's just another one to add to the list.

6 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

No logic as they were there before.

The point remained that Rooney failed to win a single game as Derby manager last season without Bielik or Gregory starting.

The same can’t be said of any other player.

What is it about Wayne that makes you go to lengths of using these convoluted arguments to try and prove a point to justify your criticism? 

See the way I see it is at least he's had the stones to stick around in the face of an absolute car crash situation, still managing to motivate a team of scraps to try and survive. We could be far worse off, after all it was Wayne that signed Gregory and got Bielik back playing to his best here. Bielik looked totally lost under your boy Cocu.

Strength from the bench is killing us now, Brum got fresh legs on and we just ran out of steam completely. Cardiff today changed the game with quality subs against florest. We can stick in games and play reasonably well but same as last season the cutting edge quality just isn't there when we need it. Another long season but I do think we are playing better football than we did last season, I find it hard to judge Rooney completely given he's not really been able to sign the quality of players he'd actually want. If we actually had the lads to execute killer balls and drag the team up the pitch then I think Rooney could do quite well.

Saw a lot of empty seats there but for the fans that did turn up at least they got the place ready for them:

On 03/09/2021 at 20:17, Macintosh said:

Forty matches left, 95 minutes a game = 63 hours spread over the next 8.5 months. Sure, there are travelling hours to add in, but 63 hours of activity is going to be too much for two fit footballers, who've probably trained at the highest level for 30 years?

What has travelling time got to do with anything? Asking players of that age to play high intensity games for a full season will undoubtedly be tough for them and will incur injuries. Davies has been injured a reasonable amount last couple of years. How many other 39 year olds in this league are playing a full season? How many other over 35s? Struggling to think of any off the top of my head, maybe a keeper can do it but CB is a completely different proposition.

Surely this season is make or break for Forest financially this season? Wage bill must be huge. Would like to think we are on for a win on Sat but it rarely goes to form.