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End of round 6 when Brook went back to his corner and Ingle said "Don't say a word... I don't think it has" I knew that was it. His eye was gone. Brook started to slow and spent more time worrying about the eye. It's a real shame. Brook should move up, he's been making 147 for year and at 31 it must be ridiculously draining making that weight for him now.

13 hours ago, McLovin said:

He is a hype job done by Eddie Hearn. Doesn't mean he isn't a fantastic fighter though. Fury schooled Klitschko IN GERMANY but Fury was given no-where near as much credit as Joshua is getting because he is too controversial and outspoken. Joshua's only other half decent opponent(Charles Martin) was injured when they fought. 

You don't know what hype job means mate, Hearn is just promoting him and taking gambles simple as that. Fury was harshly treated but he does have some pretty major character flaws in terms of mass appeal. The sexism and homophobia can't really be covered up or brushed over at this point.

A hype job is a fighter that has loads of media attention and push but crumbles at the first test, gets beat the first time they step in with quality. Joshua goes against everything that defines a hype job. What you don't like is the hyperbole that surrounds him, but if he continues it was all justified.

Charles Martin wouldn't even be top 5 HWs in the UK so he definitely isn't Joshua's second biggest win. The guy was handed a vacant shot after fighing nobodies in bars then the other guy's knee ligaments disintegrated. He was never a real champion. Hearn saw that he could get an easy world title and thus be able to have more negotiating power. If was a smart piece of management.

12 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

Never been to any. But I've had eyes and experienced vision for 46 years and consider myself well versed on what a good view of something is

The picture makes it look further away, plus it's scaled down.

5 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

That's a decent view?

I'd get a better view on the radio.

I could see the punches landing and the screens like I was watching TV. Been to many fights? Unless you have a lot of spare cash you ain't sitting anywhere near ringside!

Cannot believe Joshua is still being called a hype job after a fight where he proved everything to the contrary. Not sure why casuals talk like this. But hey ho.

Had a good view for this one, place went mental.

Funnily enough I was directly behind some DCFC season ticket holders, we get everywhere.

5 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Jacobs put on arguably the best boxing performance of his career. Movement was excellent. However, he was just too passive in those opening two-three rounds and that killed him.

I had GGG 114-113.

Jacobs won the large majority of the middle rounds, with a cleaner jab and hand speed.

Not sure if GGG was ill or what. He was blowing heavily in his corner, and he didn't throw half as many punches as usual especially when he had Jacobs backed up and cornered.

I know he has immense power, but GGG is also a decent boxer but he didn't show that tonight. Technically he was second best, just his aggression and that knockdown won it for him.

My main observation with GGG is that he doesn't like to throw with guys, Jacob's trainer was constantly telling Jacobs to double jab to keep GGG at bay. When Jacobs actually got circling with the jab it stopped GGG from marching forward. He could then get his clean combos away, Brook really set a blueprint for a guy to beat GGG. Problem was Jacobs did it for too few rounds, the roaring and shouting bravado that Jacobs did when he landed clean hooks tells me mentally he didn't fully believe in himself. He spent a lot of time being tentative that probably cost him the fight.

I got the feeling Jacobs was a bit too nice, good fighter though. Think he'd beat Saunders, he's nice and compact with swift short counters. Throws nice combos and has the ability to punch while going forwards accurately. The knockdown was legit but I think he wouldn't have hit the deck if Golovkin hadn't have ran in to him.

Decided to stay up for this one as it was a legit #1 vs #2 high level match up, we don't see this enough. My only annoyance with GGG is he has all these plans for mega fights that so much money is riding on him. Not just promotionally but think of all the sanctioning fees for all those belts! I don't like that being in the background when big decisions are being made in close fights. Not that I disagree with the outcome but it doesn't help the credibility.

Triple GGG is the guy in 30-40 years kids are asking the older guys about, I always make the effort to see his fights because he's one of the few potential all time greats around.

Don't think Jacobs really believed it enough at times tonight, scorecards a bit wide for me. Had GGG by 1 round.

Brook vs Khan would just play out like most of Khan's recent fights, moves around the ring well for a few rounds then runs in to a well timed big shot when his opponent adjusts. When people talk about fighters with bad chins Khan is the poster boy, KOd at all weights. Glad Brook has Spence rather than that clown, a proper fight between possibly the best fighters in the division.

11 minutes ago, Tombo said:

The problem was that there hasn't really been anyone to test Joshua. Early on, yes he was facing guys who he was expected to beat. That's how it always works, you build confidence and get a good undefeated streak to start you off.

AJ is similar to Tyson in many aspects. Firstly back in the day, people would ask Tyson the same questions - "When will you face someone who'll take you the distance?" And the response is always the same for both "We're trying to find someone!"

AJ, just like Tyson, walks into a match with a guy that his corner are thinking "okay, this guy will be a big test now" and he demolishes them way early than anyone expected. The only guys to really test him were Breazeale and Whyte, not to be taken lightly, they were big big contenders. Even so, Breazeale he dominated fairly well, the guy just had a good chin.

So I too never understand why AJ gets accused of only fighting 'bums'. They've always tried to fight guys to challenge him and he's always exceeded expectation. The fact that he effortlessly knocked out a guy who was world champion to win his first world honours says a lot. Maybe Martin wasn't the strongest champ in the division but he's got some quality, otherwise he wouldn't have been anywhere near the belt. They don't just hand out world titles.

I agree but my only exception is Martin was kind of a handout, the guy he fought collapsed with knee ligaments gone after a round or two. It was a total gift, Martin was always losing to AJ even if AJ had a bad night. Martin was lucky to even get a title shot for a vacant belt against an average opponent. Breazeale has since shown he has an awesome chin against Ugonoh so the fact AJ did that to him tells me that AJ's power is supreme in the division. Fury, Wilder, Tyson or whoever you look at had just as steady if not easier building fights than AJ. You need to balance learning the pro game and making sure you don't throw your guy in the deep end too quick.

Intrigued to see how Hughie fairs against Parker, it's a massive step up for him but it opens up a lot of big fights if he does it. Wanted Haye to win just for all the potential HW possibilities. Fury, Fury, AJ, Haye, Wilder & Parker. Plus loads of fringe contenders moving up.Think Wlad is past it and will be retired by AJ.

36 minutes ago, Alpha said:

Yeah I wasn't having a dig at Mike Tyson. 

These idiots don't seem to grasp how dangerous this sport is. They'd have Anthony Joshua stepping in with Deontay Wilder 5 fights ago. Who's going to take responsibility if he gets put in a wheelchair? If he's eating through a straw what will be the comments then? They going to pay his bills?

Reading twitter tonight after Fury announced his comeback in May

"You're a fraud"

"Go destroy that hype job"

"Go bang out Joshua"

"You're back and getting knocked out"

He's a world champion. He's undefeated. He worked up to find his level. He beat a legend

His rival is a world champion. An Olympic gold medalist. He's undefeated and worked up to find his level. 

People talk like this is two blokes off the street about to have a water fight. Trained fighters who need to stay healthy and valuable. 

Although I did hammer that Swiss guy that Haye fought because he kept dropping to the deck. Either that's a dangerous mismatch or he's turned up to collect money. No way was he a professional boxer at that level getting dropped like that.

Honestly reading Twitter replies to boxers is just mind boggling, some of the cowards that have a pop is absolutely astounding. The way the media went after Fury after becoming the best HW on the planet was a joke. He may have said some stupid stuff but I just wished they'd leave the guy alone. Fighters want to stay as healthy and relevant for as long as possible, they always take the safest route to the most money it's simple common sense and we'd all do the same. Blows my mind that casuals all moaned about Joshua's early fights, he moved way faster than most HW prospects.

Joshua vs Wilder is my dream match up right now, that fight would be huge assuming AJ does the business in April. Think Wilder gets schooled, he lost all the rounds to a poor Washington. Straight forward KO IMO for AJ there.

You're right about the danger though, these casuals don't understand how hard these guys punch. They treat these fighters like video game marionettes, just there for their entertainment. They wouldn't be so flippant if they were taking sledgehammers to the head for a living.

3 hours ago, Alpha said:

The thing with people talking about boxing online, especially twitter, is that they are just bitter

Everyone is a bum. The heavyweight division is a joke. He hasnt fought anyone good, he payed the judges blah blah blah.

There are no bums. There's levels. Like any sport. If these lads are bums then why don't the YouTube ninjas and twitter gangsters go and fight?

"Joshua has only fought tin cans/ Mike Tyson is a legend" - who did Mike Tyson fight in his first 20 fights? No denying he was a scary fighter but take a look who he fought when he was growing. 

You just can't please people. It has the most abusive fans. 

We could have had tickets for Joshua but we can't make it. But it could go down in history as the time a legend passed on the baton to a legend. You never know. Gutted.

But yeah, so many trolls online with boxing. Waaaaay more than football. Far worse

Loads of people online call top 20 ranked fighters bums, I instantly think all their opinions are a load of **** as soon as they go down that avenue. Boxing is the toughest sport, they don't realise how fit these guys are and how easy they make it look. I can barely hold my arms up and block for 3 rounds let alone fight back. Classic tonight heard lads talking about the Haye Bellew fight: "I knew Bellew would win". Oh really? No one knew that just look at the odds. Bellew was 4-1 down on the cards then Haye got injured and he still couldn't hurt Haye who had a completely detached Achilles tendon. Haye was clearly hurt in the ring entrance hence why he swung for the hills from the off. Now when you watch back you can see the crazy wide stance he used to try and avoid his tendon going. It was only 96-93 officially at the time of the stoppage!

I love boxing but 80% of the fans are complete muppets, makes fans at football matches seem like top tier experts.

Mike Tyson didn't have massive competition and as soon as his youth wore off he was a shadow of his former self, prison absolutely wrecked him as well. At his peak though a total animal. I'll talk some boxing here though you guys seem more level headed and reasonable, I just can't do this bums and frauds etc allegations.

The PPV prices over here are very reasonable compared to the states. Kovalev vs Ward in HD was $70 and the US undercards are garbage. Glad Garcia lost, his dad is one of the biggest tossers out there. Thurman is the real deal and I'm glad he put on a performance and didn't get robbed.

Boxing became my firm #2 sport about 6 years ago. I don't talk about it much online because the keyboard warriors and know it alls are a real annoyance. The way some people talk about boxing is just ridiculous. I've got a ticket to Joshua - Klitschko ticket so will be there, more going for the experience though than expecting a top tier fight. Not sure what Wlad has left and not sure how much credit Joshua will get for a win. Think he needs a spectacular KO to really send out a message that gets him some credit.

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

David Lemieux is a top ten power puncher in the world. His knockout ratio heading in to the Golovkin fight was 31 from 36, a pretty decent record I must say. Yet he just got blasted out.

I think Brook is a technical fighter. His jabs and straight rights are brilliant, but he's not a knockout artist and Golovkin has never been put on the mat in his life (so they say!).

I can't see how he can possibly win this fight. Golovkin is a boxer, he'll cut off the ring and trade. They keep saying Brook is a huge Welterweight, I hope that's true as he will need power in this fight.

Lemieux is a KO artist against everyone except top level as his record shows. I don't think losing in 8 rounds is getting blasted out either, GGG methodically worked him. Took the sting out of him then went to work. GGG is more tactically adaptive than a lot of people realise.

Many fighters that know people that have worked with Kell are saying he's a different beast when not drained so we'll see. Like I said he's going to need to bring something special, Kell's standard style plays in to GGG hands. That said there is something about Kell in pressure situations, the fact that GGG is there to be hit as well gives him hope. I'll be rooting for him anyway but I like GGG also, he's a good ambassador for the sport rather than a guy that nicknames himself 'money'.

5 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I have to agree with this. The Eubank's are in danger of making themselves impossible to work with and its Eubank Jr that will suffer. The best thing he could do is completely remove his mental father from the equation and get his head down with a decent trainer.

He was with Booth briefly and he wanted no more to do with them. His dad is ruining his career, it's a real shame.

Separately looking forward to Rigondeaux putting on a clinic this Saturday, probably the most satisfying technical boxer on the planet. Love watching his skills, pure class.

The two guys no one wants to fight just decide to face off against each other, makes sense in a way. I'm a Brook fan, followed him ever since that undercard appearance in the USA way back, seen him in Sheffield also. I will concede that the odds are against Kell here but they are for anyone that steps in with GGG. Kell has a habit of stepping up when needed and has shown he only gets better under pressure. I'm interested to see how he fills out and the extra power he brings at 160 when he isn't drained.

Looking at the pics from NY the size difference isn't big and I think Kell will surprise people even if he doesn't get the win. GGG is there to be hit but so far no one has had the power to worry him. Kell might have to fight a new type of fight, his usual style isn't the best way to go against GGG. Apprehensively looking forward to this fight.

20 minutes ago, rynny said:

I read that as Nick Blackman at first 

I'd struggle to disagree with the post if that was the case, going on the evidence I've seen down at the ipro.

1 hour ago, dcfcfan1 said:

Having said that, he has just had his career ended. He was ***** anyway tbh, and at least now with haye's donations he can still make a living through the sport, if he decided to be a coach/trainer. I wish boxing had a dana white, it would be so much more interesting instead of boxers avoiding each other (e.g wilder)

Nick Blackwell was ****? Honestly that's a joke of a statement. He has a rep as a good fighter that always came up slightly short in the big fights. British champ and he's ****, casual fans do my swede in.