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Wait…. We have tactics? 
 

Why not Mac & Wassall? I know it's been said before it's baffling that they're both physically at the club and we're not using them.

I thought we all understood that the squad and management were up against it and it was time for better or worse to stick with them? Didn't last long did it. 

Unless he sells to a venture capital company in which case my scenario might be closer to the truth than I imagined. 
Joiners 2021 would be two players getting a sugar rush off the candyfloss at the fair, ignoring parental advice to go home then crashing on the dodgems. 
 
 

Haha yes Charlize Theron is 'on my radar' but we've not been linked, other than the restraining order... 
 

Rooney has had multiple interviews now, where he has been asked the question about walking away. He consistently says no. We have been crying out for stability and loyalty from a manager since Nigel Clough. He arguably has the toughest job of any manager for as long as I can remember supporting Derby (22 years) and despite having a bare minimum squad and having all the problems above him, he continues to show that he cares and wants to do well. 
We are starting to see a style of play which is exciting and attacking with the handful players he has. 
I think it's about time everyone starts to show respect to him instead of wanting him out. Any other manger would have left us in this mess. 
 
He's sticking with us, we need to stick with him !!

well said. players have good and bad games. joz wouldnt be a regular for poland if he was crap

Why can't this thread just praise Ebosele? Why does it have to double as a Jozwiak hate thread. Embarrassing. 

Agree about Ebosele but you're wrong about Jozwiak. He stepped up, was everywhere and linked defence with attack really well.

£5 for the privilege as i'm sat here listening at work in Leicester. So
great to hear the fans back!!

Me neither re: Twitter!
It is tedious and disheartening to read gratuitous, derogatory comments about David, or vapid assertions about the other meeting attendees being 'smug ITKs', or whatever. 
The guys & gals that attend SCGs aren't just hooked off the street by a Pride Park bouncer; a lot of hours and miles are put in by them, voluntarily, within the fanbase. Remember they love the club, too. 
I'm sure they are broadly representative, be they a forum rep, supporter club member, or 'minority / BAME' group, heritage, governance interest group, or so on - they do have the respect of the club, so we should accord similar respect to fellow fans. 
They are not beholden to 'spill the beans' and pile onto social media at anyone's beck & call, in an instant; the club requires discretion and accuracy from them, having been entrusted with sensitive information. 
The focus for us fans is surely to pull together, to be supportive  of the lads on the pitch; be defiant, in this adversity, for the players and the club? 
Make a noise of Saturday, chant player's names, not just crude anti-EFL songs (yes - I hate them too, y'know!) Channel your energy into helping the team through what we expect to be bl 00dy tough games.
There's a convoluted tangle around just about everything connected with the club - we wish it were sorted but it isn't.
Blaming and trashing all connected - and your own fan groups, isn't actually helpful IMHO.
Rant over: feel free to target me, though I'm afraid it won't solve a thing :-o
C O Y R

Sometimes, I feel quite embarrassed to be a Rams fan.  Tonight is one of those times.
 
... And that is aimed at "Some fans", not the club.  Not @David.  Just "Some fans".
 
 

I'm so glad I'm not on Twitter! 
People seem to forget there's a real person at the end of their jibes.

He's getting absolutely dragged on Twitter.
The sense of entitlement from some of our fans, towards a bloke who owes them absolutely nothing, is astounding.

FFS. Have you not seen the message from @David saying he'll type something up in the morning?
Rather than this being typical of the poo show that is DCFC at the moment, your post is typical of those that feel the need to have a pop rather than wait to see what is shared. I suggest you be patient, go to bed and then respond appropriately when David has had a chance to share what he can.

I would rather keep him, it’s a massive season for him, trying to get back into the Wales team. If he has a good injury free season, he will win us a few games at least. He has got quality, he just needs to produce it more often and improve his decision making.

Honey, I’m home!

I'm not concerned that you're not concerned about about my views.
Maybe @David wouldn't be content (I've think he's said as much) and that's fine. What I am saying though is to insist on NDA's isn't an insult, isn't a sign of contempt and isn't a loss of credibility. 
The way I see it, assuming there are some sensitive answers Mel wants to give that aren't quite ready for public disclosure or debate, he had three choices:
1) Continue to keep us completely in the dark
2) Hold a public Q&A but avoid any sensitive issues
3) Hold a confidential Q&A with a small group of representatives who, cannot disclose full details of the answers, but may be able to give some comfort to the wider public fan base.
Whilst not ideal, option three sounds like the best and doesn't sound like an insult, sign of contempt or loss of credibility to me.
Which would you choose if full disclosure to every one (it would soon be all over social media) is off the table the moment? 

It'll be @Boyciewith his moobs out and flatulence on demand.... ?

On the way now. Forgive me for having a beer before, it’s been a long morning and I have a notepad so don’t worry about my memory!

I have just now contacted the club and had it confirmed that the NDA will be discussed tonight on record and in the meeting minutes, clarifying why it was asked for us to sign. 
I’ll leave the NDA questions there now as it would be wrong for me to continue speculating.

Ha maybe!
In fairness though, I do understand where those that are angry are coming from.
When I received the email, I questioned it immediately, looked for assurances, took me by surprise.
I asked was it not possible for the meeting to take place without the NDA, and only share information that could be shared.
I was given assurances that this would be like any other meeting. It’s just the paperwork side which as I say, protects us and themselves and might not even be called into use.
So I signed it and returned. Not entirely comfortably as I knew if this got out we would see the reaction we are seeing now. 
Shortly after it did, leaked on to Twitter which I am hugely disappointed by as it didn’t give us as a group the opportunity to question it further prior to the meeting tonight.
It’s been difficult the past 24hrs as I have been contacted several times, I’ve been careful not to confirm or deny until a conversation had taken place with the club tonight.
Feels like I may have lied, however everything I have said is true in that I have been given assurances this will be like another meeting we have been part of several times before now.
I do get it though, every Derby fan would love to be in that room tonight, I am very fortunate to be invited due to this forum. 
It’s good to see calm and understanding heads, I just want us all to be given a chance as scrapping the meeting over this which could potentially happen if all fan groups put pressure on their reps, helps nobody.

Mel might want to get some stuff off his chest about Steve Gibson, Wycombe, Barnsley’s (now Forest’s CEO) who have been the most prominent in sticking the boot into us alongside the EFL. As would fans similarly. An NDA protects this.
He might want to say stuff about P&S (FFP) which he doesn’t want releasing yet, he might even want to say (or inadvertently say) a couple of sensitive things about the takeover which he doesn’t want out in the public domain. 
 
There are a multitude of valid reasons why an NDA would be put in place, the fans groups (including David on our behalf) have all challenged it and been given assurances minutes will be released. Let’s give them a chance and save the criticism for when the minutes are released (if required).
@Davidthank you for representing us, best of luck and hope you get to ask all the questions you intend to.

I think it’s safe to say your local team is definitely a number 2……. 

The name of Derby County has been radically sullied in the press of late, some of it very unfair. Does the Club have a communications strategy to set the record straight over some of the issues eg how we cheated relegation? How we fixed our accounts? How we sold the ground to ourselves? What we value as a Club eg fairness, community spirited, ambitious.