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Wildsmith 6

24Nyambe  7
35Nelson  7
6Cashin  6
3Forsyth  5
12Smith  7
22Fornah  5
8Bird 🦅 7
11Méndez-Laing  5
16Wilson  5
10Waghorn  5
4Hourihan  5
7Barkhuizen  7
14Washington  5
9Collins. 5

Tea cup?? He should be throwing the massage table at them. 
 
I do agree with you about the tea cup lobbing, that is part of the problem. 
 
 

Is our manager strong enough to rip into them, or does he still want to be pals with the team. 
We look as if we are playing the worst team in the league, but don’t have to put the effort in to beat them. 
Second half will be interesting if Mr Warne has had a serious chat. 

And there is the complacency 

I don’t hate Paul Warne, I don’t dislike Paul Warne, I just don’t rate Paul Warne and can’t stand listening to him. This isn’t a new thing for me, it’s how I have felt for about 5 years now.
I am now trying my very hardest to appreciate him, and results like that on Tuesday and away to Peterborough help me with that. If he gets us up this season I will acknowledge and enjoy the achievement, but I have said it a few times before that I think any broadly competent coach ought to be able to get this squad up this season. We have a strong squad in a very weak league.
However, I still don’t think whatever happens that his football is ever going to be particularly pretty or organised and for that reason I do hope if he does get us promoted we still consider replacing him with someone with a record of achievement in the Championship. If he fails for a second season he should be sacked regardless.
Up the Rams!

The criticism was all to do with the horrible football Warne had them playing, the constant giving the ball to the opposition to play with. The last two games have had far more control, and as a result more enjoyable to watch.
I don't expect us to be attacking or keeping the ball for an entire match, and I do enjoy a good defensive display as well, but some of the football we were dishing up was an affront to football. 

The criticism was all to do with the horrible football Warne had them playing, the constant giving the ball to the opposition to play with. The last two games have had far more control, and as a result more enjoyable to watch.
I don't expect us to be attacking or keeping the ball for an entire match, and I do enjoy a good defensive display as well, but some of the football we were dishing up was an affront to football. 

The criticism was all to do with the horrible football Warne had them playing, the constant giving the ball to the opposition to play with. The last two games have had far more control, and as a result more enjoyable to watch.
I don't expect us to be attacking or keeping the ball for an entire match, and I do enjoy a good defensive display as well, but some of the football we were dishing up was an affront to football. 

The criticism was all to do with the horrible football Warne had them playing, the constant giving the ball to the opposition to play with. The last two games have had far more control, and as a result more enjoyable to watch.
I don't expect us to be attacking or keeping the ball for an entire match, and I do enjoy a good defensive display as well, but some of the football we were dishing up was an affront to football. 

The criticism was all to do with the horrible football Warne had them playing, the constant giving the ball to the opposition to play with. The last two games have had far more control, and as a result more enjoyable to watch.
I don't expect us to be attacking or keeping the ball for an entire match, and I do enjoy a good defensive display as well, but some of the football we were dishing up was an affront to football. 

Told you Paul Warne is a football genius 

1Wildsmith 6
24Nyambe 7
35Nelson 7
6Cashin 6
2Wilson 6
Bradley 6
12Smith 8
8Bird 🦅 7
Hourihane 6
22Fornah 8
Sibley 6
3Forsyth 6
9Collins 6
10Waghorn 7
11Méndez-Laing 6
7Barkhuizen 7

This really has hit me in the Hunters.
RIP, you brilliant bloke.

Wildsmith             6
24Nyambe             7
35Nelson               7
6Cashin                 6
3Forsyth                6
Wilson                    6
12Smith                  6
Bird 🦅                    6
22Fornah                8
11Méndez-Laing    6
10Waghorn             4
Washington            4
7Barkhuizen           6
Sibley                      6
9Collins                   5

The criticism of Warne from most has been the style of football, Warneball which to many is hoofball. 
There was not even a hint of hoofball today.  We played the sort of football a Liam team would’ve played. Which renders the Warne ball narrative void doesn’t it (I’d argue particularly at home since his arrival it hasn’t been hoofball and people have been seeing what they want to see to fit their Warneball narrative) 
But in trying to play “the right way” today, while our build up play was decent for the most part (could’ve been quicker), it all fell down in the final 3rd. We created 3 excellent chances and should’ve taken at least one to win the game. But while we created numerous promising situations we didn’t create any more than 3 chances, and that isn’t enough.
Balance in midfield is wrong. Not sure about Waghorn as a 10. But I’m hopeful with players getting fit we’ll get that sorted. Fornah is an excellent player at this level especially I think him and Bird could be some partnership. Nyambe is class, cash and nelson starting to look a real partnership, get Elder fit he takes over from Foz and we probably have the best back 4 in the league. 
Still say I’m waiting until after the Port Vale game until either maintaining my current support of Warne or turning into a dissenter. But I will say my 6 year old is trying to get into football at the moment and into Derby County, she’s trying really hard and genuinely showing interest, but with the lack of chances and action particularly at home games right now, Derby county are really making it f****** difficult!! 

“It doesn’t matter how we play if we win”.  
Wrong wrong wrong 

Part of being a well respected coach is who you can attract. Especially who big clubs will trust their loanees with..

A poll after each game now ? ridiculous!

1Wildsmith  6
24Nyambe  7
35Nelson  7
6Cashin  6
3Forsyth  6
11Méndez-Laing  6
Washington  6
12Smith  6
22Fornah  7
17Sibley  6
7Barkhuizen   6
10Waghorn  5
Wilson  6
9Collins. 7

Showing that he is interested in being a 'student of football', that he actually wants to be a manager and decides there is beauty in football, not just athleticism. 
Ain't never gonna happen though is it. #Leopardspots

To be fair we were only awful for the middle 60 minutes of the game. 
The first and last 15 were OK.
When I saw NML start on the left, it sadly summed up our tactical incompetence. Then bringing Wilson on on the wing with Barkhuizen still on the bench, ffs.
We have enough in the squad to beat the 6 or 8 bottom teams whilst playing badly. 
Hopefully Bird is back soon.
 
 
 

Don’t be deliberately obtuse. I want the manager to accept blame for the horrific performance, which 9 times out of 10 would result in a Derby loss, and focus on improving it. Wilfully ignoring the performance just because we got a fortune 3 points (largely as Carlisle were crap) will lead us nowhere but down.
And who the f*** do you think you’re calling the sky generation?! I left my apartment in London at 7am this morning, won’t get back until midnight, and spent 8 hours and £100 in travel to watch that game today. Im gonna hazard a guess and say you probably didn’t do the same, as you prefer to spend your time on here bullying other forum members. 
Nothing annoys me more than that stereotype about “my generation”. We’ve been through hell and back with this football club, with almost no success in the last 20 years. But because we dare question the s**** performances of the team, we’re the problem? As I said to your other half on here, you keep your head in the sand, the rest of us won’t. This team is going nowhere playing like that, absolutely nowhere.
FWIW, I remember you making similar comments to me when I was critical of Mel Morris’ running of the club a few years back. Think that tells everyone all they need to know about you. 

I have no problem playing badly every now and then and winning. 
Not all victories under McClaren were swashbuckling. I seem to recall one week where we registered three 1-0 wins in succession over Sheff Wed, Bournemouth and QPR in 2013/14 and none of them were pretty.
But it’s a complete cop out from the manager to say he’d take 20 1-0 wins playing crap, because it justifies playing crap.
Warne is a poor coach. Or his coaches are poor coaches. Playing the way he does requires the least amount of technical coaching. 
I just don’t see any long-term benefits playing this way. At some point Warne will have to adapt. 
I can be on board if Warne is just a stepping stone to getting out of League One and then we turn to somebody like Mowbray to progress.
But I’ve seen enough of Warne to know we have a poor coach on our hands and no long-term future with him (unless our goal is to remain a lower half Championship struggler).
 

What does our manager say to the players, or do with them during the week. This is horrific football. 

What does our manager say to the players, or do with them during the week. This is horrific football.