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    ilkleyram got a reaction from taffyram in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    If you sold your house/property with planning permission to build or even the possibility of extending/ changing it to be something different, then it could be worth more.  Hypothetical or planned schemes can still affect a valuation.  In that interview Mel made a strong case for wanting to use the stadium far more than it is already being used and talked about some of the practical issues that had to be overcome - pitch and weather prime amongst them. That would rightly affect the potential value of the asset owned by the football club 
    He also said very clearly that it had been independently valued before the deal went through.  In the circumstances - the ground being sold by the owner of the club to another company owned by the same person - that would be a minimum requirement.  I would guess therefore that the only way that the EFL could complain would be if another independent valuer puts a significantly different (lower or higher) valuation on it, because we've already established that doing what Mel did is/was within the rules.  The only winners if the valuation is different will be the lawyers
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from taffyram in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    So is Voila 😉
    Viola's probably one of those Italian forwards
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from R@M in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    So is Voila 😉
    Viola's probably one of those Italian forwards
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from OwenB87 in RamsTV Feedback   
    The new Academy Review show was excellent @OwenB87 except for your skinny jeans with two large mobile phones (or at least I presume they were).  You can carry the jeans off but perhaps the camera person could have the phones while you are doing your bit.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Mostyn6 in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    Apologies if someone's already written this but having just read the DET which quotes in full the EFL brief to Jonathan Taylor QC (another Taylor report.....) who is leading the review, there is absolutely nothing that even hints of the sale of our ground to Mel being examined. There's certainly no mention of any other valuation or an examination of the valuation put upon it or anything as remotely specific.  You would really have to stretch your interpretation of the review's boundaries to include either issue - accepting that QCs leading enquiries have been known to stretch the original briefs that they were given.
    The brief appears to be mostly about Bury, the lessons that can be learnt and then a second phase where the review will focus on the effectiveness of the EFL’s regulations and procedures in ensuring the financial sustainability of EFL Clubs. It then has to go to the EFL clubs themselves for discussion and agreement (or disagreement).
    On what we know so far there is fat chance of this having any negative effect on us or Mel or anyone connected with us
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from cosmic in RamsTV Feedback   
    The new Academy Review show was excellent @OwenB87 except for your skinny jeans with two large mobile phones (or at least I presume they were).  You can carry the jeans off but perhaps the camera person could have the phones while you are doing your bit.
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    ilkleyram reacted to Ramleicester in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    Hi I think the Taylor review is a general look at the FFP system following the Bury issue. The Derby / Villa will be by the FFP oversight panel.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Dordogne-Ram in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    So is Voila 😉
    Viola's probably one of those Italian forwards
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    ilkleyram reacted to atherstoneram in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    Yes,another one our recruitment team missed
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Wazztie16 in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    So is Voila 😉
    Viola's probably one of those Italian forwards
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    If you sold your house/property with planning permission to build or even the possibility of extending/ changing it to be something different, then it could be worth more.  Hypothetical or planned schemes can still affect a valuation.  In that interview Mel made a strong case for wanting to use the stadium far more than it is already being used and talked about some of the practical issues that had to be overcome - pitch and weather prime amongst them. That would rightly affect the potential value of the asset owned by the football club 
    He also said very clearly that it had been independently valued before the deal went through.  In the circumstances - the ground being sold by the owner of the club to another company owned by the same person - that would be a minimum requirement.  I would guess therefore that the only way that the EFL could complain would be if another independent valuer puts a significantly different (lower or higher) valuation on it, because we've already established that doing what Mel did is/was within the rules.  The only winners if the valuation is different will be the lawyers
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    ilkleyram reacted to MackworthRamIsGod in EFL order independent valuation of Pride Park   
    No but Mel values him at 20 million.
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    ilkleyram reacted to McRamFan in First steps to Mars   
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/aug/31/greatest-threat-to-life-on-earth-may-come-from-space-asteroids-satellite-debris
    The greatest threat to life on Earth may come from space.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Carl Sagan in First steps to Mars   
    On the space theme there’s a really interesting article on the online Guardian page this morning about how we’re dealing with the threat from asteroids and the potential danger of space rubbish. 
    Perhaps someone more techy than me can post a link
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from reverendo de duivel in Brentford Away - Ticket Wanted   
    Is it possible that you're not feeling quite so benevolent towards the reverendo now..............😀
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from RiddingsRam in Brentford Away - Ticket Wanted   
    Is it possible that you're not feeling quite so benevolent towards the reverendo now..............😀
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from bigbadbob in Keogh and Forest groundsman in alleged scuffle   
    I don’t get the angst about the Collymoor song.
    It suggests that Mr Collymoor does something regularly that, let’s not be shy, the vast majority of people on this forum will have done at some point in their lives, and that he has an odd choice in headgear. Not the worst thing in the world to do.  It’s not as if he’s being accused of doing awful things to children.
    Then it recognises the fact that he played for two other local football teams and that he was foolish for doing so.  One is a matter of indisputable fact and the other is a matter of opinion which, apparently, is something that we are all allowed to hold and express ad infinitum on these pages.
    It goes on to mention that he had a dalliance with a minor television celebrity who happens to be Swedish, and treated her very badly.  Is this not a matter of fact, repeated and reported in court? It clearly suggests that he was wrong to do so.
    And, finally, reference is made to said footballer fracturing a rather important limb (which ones are unimportant?) at a football stadium in the East Midlands.  Again a matter of fact.
    So, without challenging in any way the competence of the Poet Laureate, this is a ditty, set to the tune of a song describing the joys of having a father who is a refuse collector, largely based in fact and truth.  It’s not sexually deviant, sectarian or racist and it certainly doesn’t condone in any way violence against any woman, but maybe particularly not against women from Scandinavia. A song perhaps for this modern MeToo world.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Smyth_18 in Keogh and Forest groundsman in alleged scuffle   
    I don’t get the angst about the Collymoor song.
    It suggests that Mr Collymoor does something regularly that, let’s not be shy, the vast majority of people on this forum will have done at some point in their lives, and that he has an odd choice in headgear. Not the worst thing in the world to do.  It’s not as if he’s being accused of doing awful things to children.
    Then it recognises the fact that he played for two other local football teams and that he was foolish for doing so.  One is a matter of indisputable fact and the other is a matter of opinion which, apparently, is something that we are all allowed to hold and express ad infinitum on these pages.
    It goes on to mention that he had a dalliance with a minor television celebrity who happens to be Swedish, and treated her very badly.  Is this not a matter of fact, repeated and reported in court? It clearly suggests that he was wrong to do so.
    And, finally, reference is made to said footballer fracturing a rather important limb (which ones are unimportant?) at a football stadium in the East Midlands.  Again a matter of fact.
    So, without challenging in any way the competence of the Poet Laureate, this is a ditty, set to the tune of a song describing the joys of having a father who is a refuse collector, largely based in fact and truth.  It’s not sexually deviant, sectarian or racist and it certainly doesn’t condone in any way violence against any woman, but maybe particularly not against women from Scandinavia. A song perhaps for this modern MeToo world.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from uttoxram75 in Keogh and Forest groundsman in alleged scuffle   
    I don’t get the angst about the Collymoor song.
    It suggests that Mr Collymoor does something regularly that, let’s not be shy, the vast majority of people on this forum will have done at some point in their lives, and that he has an odd choice in headgear. Not the worst thing in the world to do.  It’s not as if he’s being accused of doing awful things to children.
    Then it recognises the fact that he played for two other local football teams and that he was foolish for doing so.  One is a matter of indisputable fact and the other is a matter of opinion which, apparently, is something that we are all allowed to hold and express ad infinitum on these pages.
    It goes on to mention that he had a dalliance with a minor television celebrity who happens to be Swedish, and treated her very badly.  Is this not a matter of fact, repeated and reported in court? It clearly suggests that he was wrong to do so.
    And, finally, reference is made to said footballer fracturing a rather important limb (which ones are unimportant?) at a football stadium in the East Midlands.  Again a matter of fact.
    So, without challenging in any way the competence of the Poet Laureate, this is a ditty, set to the tune of a song describing the joys of having a father who is a refuse collector, largely based in fact and truth.  It’s not sexually deviant, sectarian or racist and it certainly doesn’t condone in any way violence against any woman, but maybe particularly not against women from Scandinavia. A song perhaps for this modern MeToo world.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from WHAT DO I GET in Keogh and Forest groundsman in alleged scuffle   
    I don’t get the angst about the Collymoor song.
    It suggests that Mr Collymoor does something regularly that, let’s not be shy, the vast majority of people on this forum will have done at some point in their lives, and that he has an odd choice in headgear. Not the worst thing in the world to do.  It’s not as if he’s being accused of doing awful things to children.
    Then it recognises the fact that he played for two other local football teams and that he was foolish for doing so.  One is a matter of indisputable fact and the other is a matter of opinion which, apparently, is something that we are all allowed to hold and express ad infinitum on these pages.
    It goes on to mention that he had a dalliance with a minor television celebrity who happens to be Swedish, and treated her very badly.  Is this not a matter of fact, repeated and reported in court? It clearly suggests that he was wrong to do so.
    And, finally, reference is made to said footballer fracturing a rather important limb (which ones are unimportant?) at a football stadium in the East Midlands.  Again a matter of fact.
    So, without challenging in any way the competence of the Poet Laureate, this is a ditty, set to the tune of a song describing the joys of having a father who is a refuse collector, largely based in fact and truth.  It’s not sexually deviant, sectarian or racist and it certainly doesn’t condone in any way violence against any woman, but maybe particularly not against women from Scandinavia. A song perhaps for this modern MeToo world.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from LB_DCFC in v Forest (A) Carabao Cup Match Thread   
    Well I was there for two and didn't feel much like posting at 130 when I got in. Not sure I do now really, but.
    I didn't feel outraged or insulted or angry at paying good money and travelling a long way - I've spent more money and travelled further for worse than that. I was disappointed that we lost a game of football to our rivals on a day that Bury got chucked out of the league and Bolton may go out of business and follow suit.
    I learnt that our manager has big gonads. He selected pretty much the same team that played at Scunny because, I would guess, that he wanted to see them, especially the young players, in action in a big competitive match. He knew how important the rivalry is because he's said at least twice that he's been told about it but he still went ahead.  Respect Mr Cocu. 
    I also learnt that our some of our younger players need more development and experience. Morgan Whitaker, for example, needs to be physically stronger and more aware. The game passed him by.  He could have come off at half time but probably learnt more by not being hooked until later. Sibley had one good run but otherwise was chasing shadows. But how else do these guys get experience unless we try them. I enjoyed seeing them play. They'll be better for the experience.
    And to the older players. I saw nothing but effort. Not one of them gave up, stopped running and covering even though some, Shinnie for example, was doing the work of two. I thought, but then what do I know, that Paterson did well, put in some dangerous crosses, that Mason battled constantly against two big centre halves, pretty much on his own, that Curtis, Clarke and Shinnie did OK.
    The third goal was a fluke. Forget it. It happens. The first came because Duane lost his man at the back post probably because he has had no football for weeks. The second because Lee Buchanan let his man get the run and jump on him. A more experienced left back would stop that. He'll learn.
    Cocu could have picked our first team with a couple of youngsters - Lowe and Buchanan perhaps. Where would that have got us in terms of the development of our young players; another opportunity to give Curtis and co game time when they might just be needed in the future, would have gone; another opportunity to learn about his squad will have passed Cocu and his team by. And we still might have lost. We're six games into a long season, two of which have been cup matches. Winning, or losing, against that lot does not a season make.
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    ilkleyram reacted to nottingram in v Forest (A) Carabao Cup Match Thread   
    Sensible and rational comment isn’t wanted here I’m afraid. If you could edit it to explain that the line up was a disgrace and that you queued for 4000000 hours and were insulted even though Cocu had already warned that he would change the team then that would be much better.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from archram in v Forest (A) Carabao Cup Match Thread   
    Well I was there for two and didn't feel much like posting at 130 when I got in. Not sure I do now really, but.
    I didn't feel outraged or insulted or angry at paying good money and travelling a long way - I've spent more money and travelled further for worse than that. I was disappointed that we lost a game of football to our rivals on a day that Bury got chucked out of the league and Bolton may go out of business and follow suit.
    I learnt that our manager has big gonads. He selected pretty much the same team that played at Scunny because, I would guess, that he wanted to see them, especially the young players, in action in a big competitive match. He knew how important the rivalry is because he's said at least twice that he's been told about it but he still went ahead.  Respect Mr Cocu. 
    I also learnt that our some of our younger players need more development and experience. Morgan Whitaker, for example, needs to be physically stronger and more aware. The game passed him by.  He could have come off at half time but probably learnt more by not being hooked until later. Sibley had one good run but otherwise was chasing shadows. But how else do these guys get experience unless we try them. I enjoyed seeing them play. They'll be better for the experience.
    And to the older players. I saw nothing but effort. Not one of them gave up, stopped running and covering even though some, Shinnie for example, was doing the work of two. I thought, but then what do I know, that Paterson did well, put in some dangerous crosses, that Mason battled constantly against two big centre halves, pretty much on his own, that Curtis, Clarke and Shinnie did OK.
    The third goal was a fluke. Forget it. It happens. The first came because Duane lost his man at the back post probably because he has had no football for weeks. The second because Lee Buchanan let his man get the run and jump on him. A more experienced left back would stop that. He'll learn.
    Cocu could have picked our first team with a couple of youngsters - Lowe and Buchanan perhaps. Where would that have got us in terms of the development of our young players; another opportunity to give Curtis and co game time when they might just be needed in the future, would have gone; another opportunity to learn about his squad will have passed Cocu and his team by. And we still might have lost. We're six games into a long season, two of which have been cup matches. Winning, or losing, against that lot does not a season make.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in v Forest (A) Carabao Cup Match Thread   
    Well I was there for two and didn't feel much like posting at 130 when I got in. Not sure I do now really, but.
    I didn't feel outraged or insulted or angry at paying good money and travelling a long way - I've spent more money and travelled further for worse than that. I was disappointed that we lost a game of football to our rivals on a day that Bury got chucked out of the league and Bolton may go out of business and follow suit.
    I learnt that our manager has big gonads. He selected pretty much the same team that played at Scunny because, I would guess, that he wanted to see them, especially the young players, in action in a big competitive match. He knew how important the rivalry is because he's said at least twice that he's been told about it but he still went ahead.  Respect Mr Cocu. 
    I also learnt that our some of our younger players need more development and experience. Morgan Whitaker, for example, needs to be physically stronger and more aware. The game passed him by.  He could have come off at half time but probably learnt more by not being hooked until later. Sibley had one good run but otherwise was chasing shadows. But how else do these guys get experience unless we try them. I enjoyed seeing them play. They'll be better for the experience.
    And to the older players. I saw nothing but effort. Not one of them gave up, stopped running and covering even though some, Shinnie for example, was doing the work of two. I thought, but then what do I know, that Paterson did well, put in some dangerous crosses, that Mason battled constantly against two big centre halves, pretty much on his own, that Curtis, Clarke and Shinnie did OK.
    The third goal was a fluke. Forget it. It happens. The first came because Duane lost his man at the back post probably because he has had no football for weeks. The second because Lee Buchanan let his man get the run and jump on him. A more experienced left back would stop that. He'll learn.
    Cocu could have picked our first team with a couple of youngsters - Lowe and Buchanan perhaps. Where would that have got us in terms of the development of our young players; another opportunity to give Curtis and co game time when they might just be needed in the future, would have gone; another opportunity to learn about his squad will have passed Cocu and his team by. And we still might have lost. We're six games into a long season, two of which have been cup matches. Winning, or losing, against that lot does not a season make.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from IslandExile in v Forest (A) Carabao Cup Match Thread   
    Well I was there for two and didn't feel much like posting at 130 when I got in. Not sure I do now really, but.
    I didn't feel outraged or insulted or angry at paying good money and travelling a long way - I've spent more money and travelled further for worse than that. I was disappointed that we lost a game of football to our rivals on a day that Bury got chucked out of the league and Bolton may go out of business and follow suit.
    I learnt that our manager has big gonads. He selected pretty much the same team that played at Scunny because, I would guess, that he wanted to see them, especially the young players, in action in a big competitive match. He knew how important the rivalry is because he's said at least twice that he's been told about it but he still went ahead.  Respect Mr Cocu. 
    I also learnt that our some of our younger players need more development and experience. Morgan Whitaker, for example, needs to be physically stronger and more aware. The game passed him by.  He could have come off at half time but probably learnt more by not being hooked until later. Sibley had one good run but otherwise was chasing shadows. But how else do these guys get experience unless we try them. I enjoyed seeing them play. They'll be better for the experience.
    And to the older players. I saw nothing but effort. Not one of them gave up, stopped running and covering even though some, Shinnie for example, was doing the work of two. I thought, but then what do I know, that Paterson did well, put in some dangerous crosses, that Mason battled constantly against two big centre halves, pretty much on his own, that Curtis, Clarke and Shinnie did OK.
    The third goal was a fluke. Forget it. It happens. The first came because Duane lost his man at the back post probably because he has had no football for weeks. The second because Lee Buchanan let his man get the run and jump on him. A more experienced left back would stop that. He'll learn.
    Cocu could have picked our first team with a couple of youngsters - Lowe and Buchanan perhaps. Where would that have got us in terms of the development of our young players; another opportunity to give Curtis and co game time when they might just be needed in the future, would have gone; another opportunity to learn about his squad will have passed Cocu and his team by. And we still might have lost. We're six games into a long season, two of which have been cup matches. Winning, or losing, against that lot does not a season make.
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