Paul Warne

[jimtastic56]

29 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

That could be the key point rather than judging progress after just three games. Let’s hope we’re one of those teams that gradually improve after a less than convincing start (I’m sure there are numerous examples including Derby’s record) rather than one that struggles to get going.

We have two home games now against bottom half teams . 6 points would take the pressure off us for the next 3 which are real tough. It would also be nice to string 5 passes together and get a tap-in . With Barker up in the stands I’m sure Paul Warne will be on the touchline making sure the players know what he wants out of them .

[CBRammette]

So Paul Warne was key to Chirewa's decision to come on loan here. Nice to hear. 

[MACKWORTHRAM]

"There were a few clubs I could have gone to, but once I spoke to the gaffer he was a massive reason why I wanted to come"

Nice little message to the absolute imbeciles who thinks Paul Warne can't attract players.

[Derant]

Been glancing through the forum, I got quite worried so I looked at the league table and, thank god, we're not mathematically relegated yet. 

[Crewton]

1 hour ago, jimtastic56 said:

We have two home games now against bottom half teams . 6 points would take the pressure off us for the next 3 which are real tough. It would also be nice to string 5 passes together and get a tap-in . With Barker up in the stands I’m sure Paul Warne will be on the touchline making sure the players know what he wants out of them .

One from each half youth - Brizzle are top half.

Edit - but I still think we're capable of winning both games.

Edited August 26 by Crewton

[Tamworthram]

1 hour ago, jimtastic56 said:

We have two home games now against bottom half teams . 6 points would take the pressure off us for the next 3 which are real tough. It would also be nice to string 5 passes together and get a tap-in . With Barker up in the stands I’m sure Paul Warne will be on the touchline making sure the players know what he wants out of them .

I think it's a bit early to be talking about top and bottom half teams. If anyone wants to go down that avenue then, to only have lost away from home against teams in the top three puts a different perspective on things. 😀

I don't really care too much at the moments if the goals are screamers or tap ins and, if my memory serves we correctly, for good parts of the game (until we pressed the self destruct button) we were on top against Blackburn and certainly stringing 5 passes together.

[bcnram]

1 hour ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

"There were a few clubs I could have gone to, but once I spoke to the gaffer he was a massive reason why I wanted to come"

Nice little message to the absolute imbeciles who thinks Paul Warne can't attract players.

It would be a bit surprising if he said ‘the gaffer is a bit of a t***** but I signed anyway’. 😄

[Tyler Durden]

1 hour ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

"There were a few clubs I could have gone to, but once I spoke to the gaffer he was a massive reason why I wanted to come"

Nice little message to the absolute imbeciles who thinks Paul Warne can't attract players.

The only downside to this is that now that this little narrative of theirs is closed off they then will be desperate to start another one. 

I look forward in anticipation.

[Tamworthram]

56 minutes ago, bcnram said:

It would be a bit surprising if he said ‘the gaffer is a bit of a t***** but I signed anyway’. 😄

True but he could have not said anything about PW. It would have been easy for him to just say something along the lines of "a massive club, great support, fantastic facilities blah blah blah"

[Crewton]

8 hours ago, Nuwtfly said:

This week he called us a “League One team that’s gone up.”

I don't know where you got that quote from, but in his post-match interview on the OS it's the interviewer that asks him if confidence is a factor when you've just come up (from League 1) - Warne never uttered those words and didn't answer the question directly. What he actually said was that he tells the players they're great every day and that he told them at H-T that when they're 'on it' they're unbeatable. The only suggestion of inferiority in that whole interview is when he admits that Watford were possibly quicker in one or two areas and had an extra bit of finishing quality (hard to deny, yes?)

Are you sure you're not making the mistake of hearing what you want to hear rather than what he actually says?

[Nuwtfly]

31 minutes ago, Crewton said:

I don't know where you got that quote from, but in his post-match interview on the OS it's the interviewer that asks him if confidence is a factor when you've just come up (from League 1) - Warne never uttered those words and didn't answer the question directly. What he actually said was that he tells the players they're great every day and that he told them at H-T that when they're 'on it' they're unbeatable. The only suggestion of inferiority in that whole interview is when he admits that Watford were possibly quicker in one or two areas and had an extra bit of finishing quality (hard to deny, yes?)

Are you sure you're not making the mistake of hearing what you want to hear rather than what he actually says?

It’s in his post match interview with Dom after the Watford game. About 8 minutes in if you listen to the BBC podcast.

If you want to have a friendly debate with me about whether or not Warne is any good then let’s carry on, but if you’d rather just be rude with comments like your last paragraph there, then let’s just call it a day. Like you said, you’re not interested in changing my mind because it’s apparently already made up, and I’d rather reply to posters who can make a counter-point without the personal swipes at me.

[Nuwtfly]

5 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

You can debate it.

I think it's increasingly harder to. The debate that can and should be had on here about Warne seems to just get swallowed up now by the extremes on both sides, who both come across as whiny and unreasonable as the other. 

It doesn't really seem like you can make any kind of "Anti-Warne" comment (I'm loathed to use that term) without the extreme of the other side jumping on you immediately. I'm sure it probably feels like that the other way around, too! Any praise of him gets jumped on by the other side; the same usual suspects etc etc. 

For what it's worth all your points are really fair - I don't really disagree with you on a lot them.

My counter argument is just this: the fear going into this season was whether Warne can cut it at this level. His time at Rotherham suggests he can't. There were loads of really fair and good arguments made as to why this was unfair to judge him on (particularly by @Ambitious)

But if you are going to judge Warne on his time so far with us, including this season, you could reasonably say that it looks like old habits are going to repeat themselves. It looks like the League One Specialist (well earned) is reverting to type a bit and turning us into an underdog, siege-mentality side that is going to try and defend for 90 minutes. 

[Tamworthram]

5 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

It’s in his post match interview with Dom after the Watford game. About 8 minutes in if you listen to the BBC podcast.

If you want to have a friendly debate with me about whether or not Warne is any good then let’s carry on, but if you’d rather just be rude with comments like your last paragraph there, then let’s just call it a day. Like you said, you’re not interested in changing my mind because it’s apparently already made up, and I’d rather reply to posters who can make a counter-point without the personal swipes at me.

You're right he did say that but I think the rest of his comments need to be listened to as well. "we got done by two amazing strikes. We're a league one team that's gone up that's trying to improve in certain situations. You can see at times that they've got more power and pace......box to box we were really competitive.....at times we probably didn't have enough quality on the ball that we would like...something we need to keep working on and getting better at...."

There are plenty of other positive things he said including how we'd done better than an established Championship team (Stoke"). 

My interpretation of his comments are what plenty of folk on this forum are saying. We've only just got promoted and we've got a lot of catching up to do with the established Championship teams that have spent far more than us on players.

 

[Nuwtfly]

6 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

You're right he did say that but I think the rest of his comments need to be listened to as well. "we got done by two amazing strikes. We're a league one team that's gone up that's trying to improve in certain situations. You can see at times that they've got more power and pace......box to box we were really competitive.....at times we probably didn't have enough quality on the ball that we would like...something we need to keep working on and getting better at...."

There are plenty of other positive things he said including how we'd done better than an established Championship team (Stoke"). 

My interpretation of his comments are what plenty of folk on this forum are saying. We've only just got promoted and we've got a lot of catching up to do with the established Championship teams that have spent far more than us on players.

 

Yes there were lots of positive comments - and there are lots of positives in general! I’m not saying there aren’t.

But it’s comments like the one we’ve just mentioned and the comment about Boro being like Real Madrid that irk me. I’m sorry but it’s the kind of thing you’d expect to hear from the manager of Rotherham or Wycombe or Burton. League One teams that have somehow managed to reach the lofty heights of the Championship. That can’t be our mindset, it shouldn’t be and it’s those comments that make me worry about Warne and whether he’s the right man for the job.

[Kathcairns]

2 hours ago, bcnram said:

It would be a bit surprising if he said ‘the gaffer is a bit of a t***** but I signed anyway’. 😄

But he wouldnt have signed  if that was the case dont you think.

[Archied]

29 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

Yes there were lots of positive comments - and there are lots of positives in general! I’m not saying there aren’t.

But it’s comments like the one we’ve just mentioned and the comment about Boro being like Real Madrid that irk me. I’m sorry but it’s the kind of thing you’d expect to hear from the manager of Rotherham or Wycombe or Burton. League One teams that have somehow managed to reach the lofty heights of the Championship. That can’t be our mindset, it shouldn’t be and it’s those comments that make me worry about Warne and whether he’s the right man for the job.

In answer to your final point , For me as I’ve said before I believe he’s the right man at the right time , one or both of those factors almost certainly will change at some point , they always do in football, so for now I’m right behind him , the club and the team🤷🏻‍♂️

[Crewton]

54 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

It’s in his post match interview with Dom after the Watford game. About 8 minutes in if you listen to the BBC podcast.

If you want to have a friendly debate with me about whether or not Warne is any good then let’s carry on, but if you’d rather just be rude with comments like your last paragraph there, then let’s just call it a day. Like you said, you’re not interested in changing my mind because it’s apparently already made up, and I’d rather reply to posters who can make a counter-point without the personal swipes at me.

You think that comment is insulting? You actually confirm below that you are irked by the odd comment rather than assess the whole of what Warne says (in particular, ignoring what I wrote in the rest of my post) so I don't think it's an insult, I think you've proven it's a valid observation.

I'm not going to change that opinion as long as you continue to be selective - but I'll put you on ignore to remove the temptation to reply to any further posts.

[Nuwtfly]

7 minutes ago, Crewton said:

You think that comment is insulting? You actually confirm below that you are irked by the odd comment rather than assess the whole of what Warne says (in particular, ignoring what I wrote in the rest of my post) so I don't think it's an insult, I think you've proven it's a valid observation.

I'm not going to change that opinion as long as you continue to be selective - but I'll put you on ignore to remove the temptation to reply to any further posts.

I don't think it's a valid observation at all, nor is accusing me of making up comments that Warne made because I'm "hearing what I want to hear." 

[Tamworthram]

45 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

Yes there were lots of positive comments - and there are lots of positives in general! I’m not saying there aren’t.

But it’s comments like the one we’ve just mentioned and the comment about Boro being like Real Madrid that irk me. I’m sorry but it’s the kind of thing you’d expect to hear from the manager of Rotherham or Wycombe or Burton. League One teams that have somehow managed to reach the lofty heights of the Championship. That can’t be our mindset, it shouldn’t be and it’s those comments that make me worry about Warne and whether he’s the right man for the job.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and interpret things in different ways but, in my view, you’re reading too much into a few off the cuff moments. Nothing to get worked up over as far as I’m concerned especially the comments after the Watford game. He didn’t say we’re little old Derby who have no right to be competing in the Championship (or anything similar). He just said that we’ve only just got promoted and have a lot of catching up to do.

[Tyler Durden]

56 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

Yes there were lots of positive comments - and there are lots of positives in general! I’m not saying there aren’t.

But it’s comments like the one we’ve just mentioned and the comment about Boro being like Real Madrid that irk me. I’m sorry but it’s the kind of thing you’d expect to hear from the manager of Rotherham or Wycombe or Burton. League One teams that have somehow managed to reach the lofty heights of the Championship. That can’t be our mindset, it shouldn’t be and it’s those comments that make me worry about Warne and whether he’s the right man for the job.

If that's all you can manage to pick Warne about that he must he doing something right.