Eoghan1884 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 17 minutes ago, trappatoni said: Don't disagree and he has been good in a back 5 but would Bradley be starting if Nyambe is fit ? If we bring a CB in we'd have to drop Nyambe (or Ward and Wilson) or Nelson and it blocks opportunity for Rooney unless he gets a loan I think if you move Nelson in the centre he wouldn’t be as effective as his pace and strength in recovery down that right channel is what makes him so good. I think it’s always good to have selection problems rather than look for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matchday Fred Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Let’s not rely on the usual South Yorks Warne connections for signings, the net needs to be cast wide. Much wider than Rotherham, Barnsley, Doncaster, Sheffield. jimtastic56 and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, Matchday Fred said: Let’s not rely on the usual South Yorks Warne connections for signings, the net needs to be cast wide. Much wider than Rotherham, Barnsley, Doncaster, Sheffield. We signed 2 players from those clubs last season. I’d say it’s anything but usual. Caerphilly Ram and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: We signed 2 players from those clubs last season. I’d say it’s anything but usual. This is one of those nonsense myths around Warne that some people just won’t drop. Just because the press or questionable football accounts on social media link us with a player doesn’t mean we’ll sign them. Last year we signed players from the following clubs; Arsenal Blackpool Bristol City Cardiff City Charlton Coventry Hull Luton Notts Forest Peterborough Rotherham Stoke Sunderland Wigan The January window the season before we signed players from Norwich and Spurs. We’ve been told the club is looking at players across Europe, yet still some people want to peddle the myth that we only sign Rotherham cast offs 🙄 GB SPORTS, FlyBritishMidland, Eoghan1884 and 11 others 6 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 hours ago, Matchday Fred said: Exactly the type of transfer we don’t need, the ageing former star whose best years are well gone, but still demanding a huge salary. Didn’t we learn the lesson with Hourihane - the legs and the heart have gone. I am not ITK about Lallana’s huge demands . Or if Hourihane has played enough games to trigger another year on £10k a week while he does his coaching badges. However I saw Ross Barkley almost keep Luton up. A touch of class amongst a load of journeymen is not a bad thing . Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, Matchday Fred said: Exactly the type of transfer we don’t need, the ageing former star whose best years are well gone, but still demanding a huge salary. Didn’t we learn the lesson with Hourihane - the legs and the heart have gone. His legs might have gone, that’s something we all saw at times this season, but in what way has his heart gone? If you know of a physical ailment that hasn’t been made public please share. If you mean his passion and commitment I think he’s shown plenty of that this season despite his ageing legs, scored key goals, made assists, accepted a reduced role at the back end of the season and still showed leadership to his colleagues from the bench and on the training ground. Baffles me the sticks people invent to beat people with. Edited May 14 by Caerphilly Ram Tamworthram, Reggie Greenwood, FlyBritishMidland and 12 others 6 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 24 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: I am not ITK about Lallana’s huge demands . Or if Hourihane has played enough games to trigger another year on £10k a week while he does his coaching badges. However I saw Ross Barkley almost keep Luton up. A touch of class amongst a load of journeymen is not a bad thing . Ross Barkley was 29 when he signed for Luton. Lallana is 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, Srg said: Ross Barkley was 29 when he signed for Luton. Lallana is 36. Doesn’t have to be Lallana . Barkley wouldn’t drop into the Championship. The Prem is 3 leagues better than the Championship , but if we could get a real class player to be our Leader and show us how to play “High Tempo Football” . That would be great. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: Adam Lallana , just released by Brighton . Would take the P in the Championship . IF ,we can get Hourihane off the books . Isn’t Hourihane already off the books ? I don’t think Lallana is Warne’s sort of chap at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Not a suggestion, as such, but one player I expect us to sign this summer is Bobby Clark. Warne has chased him in the past two windows to be knocked back in the end. Ultimately I think there is a lot of appreciation for him as a player as it goes against his mantra of not wanting first time loans. Andrew3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Not a suggestion, as such, but one player I expect us to sign this summer is Bobby Clark. Warne has chased him in the past two windows to be knocked back in the end. Ultimately I think there is a lot of appreciation for him as a player as it goes against his mantra of not wanting first time loans. With a new manager and him having played in the first team, January would be more likely depending on where we are. New managers tend to hang on to players like band aids to give themselves the best chance of a good start, even if it's just for cup match cameos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 hours ago, Eoghan1884 said: I think if you move Nelson in the centre he wouldn’t be as effective as his pace and strength in recovery down that right channel is what makes him so good. I think it’s always good to have selection problems rather than look for them. We'll have to disagree. I don't see Bradley keeping Nyambe or Nelson out of that back 3. Yes Coady for Bradley sounds like a useful upgrade but Coady for Nelson or Nyambe not so much - and given his wages it wouldnt be where I'd be spending the budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 12 hours ago, Matchday Fred said: Exactly the type of transfer we don’t need, the ageing former star whose best years are well gone, but still demanding a huge salary. Didn’t we learn the lesson with Hourihane - the legs and the heart have gone. Legs gone, but heart hasn’t gone. It’s a shame he has a job as a coach already with Villa as if he is staying, I think he could be of good use to us. He’s been a consistent player all his career and won a number of promotions, he has the mentality that’s needed, it’s just the physicality is going. For what it’s worth I think he’s still been a good captain for us, he’s enjoying the good times, but was equally accountable when things weren’t so good earlier in the season. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-conor-hourihane-message-9283263 S8TY, Reggie Greenwood, secretsquirrel and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 31 minutes ago, Kernow said: Legs gone, but heart hasn’t gone. It’s a shame he has a job as a coach already with Villa as if he is staying, I think he could be of good use to us. He’s been a consistent player all his career and won a number of promotions, he has the mentality that’s needed, it’s just the physicality is going. For what it’s worth I think he’s still been a good captain for us, he’s enjoying the good times, but was equally accountable when things weren’t so good earlier in the season. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-conor-hourihane-message-9283263 He's no spring chicken but we were asking him to play in a position that he's never played. Chasing back and tackling players who were 10 years younger, two stone heavier and 5 inches bigger than him. Has bits of Knight about it who apparently didn't create enough or score enough despite spending half his life here out wide, at full back or chasing wide players back under the wing back system last season, despite being in midfield. He's seen very much as an attacking midfielder at Bristol as he was in his first season here. He won't play every week but if he is here, play him 20 yards from the opponents goal and he might just get or create 10 very important goals. Teams won't be sitting in against us like in League 1. There'll be less chasing back and more space. We'll be doing much more countering, rather than pressing, unless big dollars are spent on midfield and attack. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: I am not ITK about Lallana’s huge demands . Or if Hourihane has played enough games to trigger another year on £10k a week while he does his coaching badges. However I saw Ross Barkley almost keep Luton up. A touch of class amongst a load of journeymen is not a bad thing . 6 years difference in their ages - Lallana is 36 and I hope (and am confident) we're not considering signing anyone even close to that age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: Doesn’t have to be Lallana . Barkley wouldn’t drop into the Championship. The Prem is 3 leagues better than the Championship , but if we could get a real class player to be our Leader and show us how to play “High Tempo Football” . That would be great. This is why I suggested Thomas Delaney earlier in the thread (p54?). If a team has a leader (like we had with Igor) who is a class above, it can take them a long way. And raise the level of the players around. Like Eranio when he came. Obviously also John Gregory dropping down the leagues. Might we sell someone the Derby dream/project and bring one player in to excite the city? TomG and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 21 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: This is why I suggested Thomas Delaney earlier in the thread (p54?). If a team has a leader (like we had with Igor) who is a class above, it can take them a long way. And raise the level of the players around. Like Eranio when he came. Obviously also John Gregory dropping down the leagues. Might we sell someone the Derby dream/project and bring one player in to excite the city? Wayne Rooney is unemployed at the moment Carl Sagan, samtheram83, Ramarena and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matchday Fred Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: This is one of those nonsense myths around Warne that some people just won’t drop. Just because the press or questionable football accounts on social media link us with a player doesn’t mean we’ll sign them. Last year we signed players from the following clubs; Arsenal Blackpool Bristol City Cardiff City Charlton Coventry Hull Luton Notts Forest Peterborough Rotherham Stoke Sunderland Wigan The January window the season before we signed players from Norwich and Spurs. We’ve been told the club is looking at players across Europe, yet still some people want to peddle the myth that we only sign Rotherham cast offs 🙄 Suspect we won’t land Herbie Kane anyway. Strong rumour he’s going to Monte Carlo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 31 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: This is why I suggested Thomas Delaney earlier in the thread (p54?). If a team has a leader (like we had with Igor) who is a class above, it can take them a long way. And raise the level of the players around. Like Eranio when he came. Obviously also John Gregory dropping down the leagues. Might we sell someone the Derby dream/project and bring one player in to excite the city? And to be fair to you, that suggestion is as bad as this one. TF Ram and Eoghan1884 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 minutes ago, Kernow said: Wayne Rooney is unemployed at the moment I bet that gran he bedded all those years ago would move quicker than he can now. jimtastic56 and Srg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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