King Charles Diagnosed With Cancer

[True Ram]

3 minutes ago, True Ram said:

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[Mucker1884]

1 hour ago, True Ram said:

... I was at the AE at Derby about 5 months ago for 22 hours with the wife Kidney stone  I saw the same old faces from about 3 years ago still ordering kebabs to be delivered to AE...

3 years, and still sat there waiting for a doner!  😲

Cripes!

[TigerTedd]

3 hours ago, Ram-Alf said:

I was at a Funeral yesterday...the wake was at Pride Park, I saw some old friends I'd not seen for 35+ years, Some I didn't recognise as age has caught up with all of us...now here's my take on the NHS

One had a peptic ulcer went into the General in Derby and on the operating table by 10pm, One was out walking and had a seizure and collapsed, Now diagnosed with Epilepsy and had his driving licence taken away, One has had a knee replacement and waiting for the other knee to be replaced, One has Parkinson's and can't stop pissing and has to take 3/4 tablets a day...and last but not least yet another funeral in a couple of weeks as an old friend died from Dementia at 66 years old 2 weeks ago 😔

The NHS was there for all of them and did a great job in trying times ☺️👍   

This sounds like Ed Sheeran’s castle on the hill, if Ed wrote it in his 70s. 😢

[Crewton]

1 hour ago, Stive Pesley said:

Anyone else think it odd that the Royals have been so transparent here? Normally there is a cloak of secrecy over this type of thing

Not really. Charles' talked about doing things 'his way' rather than sticking to what his mother did and they couldn't really cover up his absence from duties anyway because they're mostly known about well in advance. Saying nothing would have led to some pretty gross speculation in the press and SM. They're not saying what form of cancer he has, but I suspect even that might be revealed after treatment.

[Stive Pesley]

This one dropped off the front page pretty quick eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-68167593

[Eddie]

7 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

My view is that he, and anyone who can afford it, are doing the rest of us a favour by using private health care. If you can afford it, you should almost be obliged to use it. Don’t waste NHS resources that can be used on those that really need it, when you can afford to pay for health care. Everyone’s a winner. You get faster healthcare, and the NHS has one less person to look after, so one person gets slightly higher up the waiting list. 

I'm sorry, but it really doesn't work that way. Encouraging more people to go private will mean more doctors and nurses drawn into private medicine for longer (many consultants and doctors now divide their time between the NHS and private medicine), coupled with fewer and fewer resources being made available to the NHS.

[Eddie]

6 hours ago, Anag Ram said:

I disagree. If government encouraged more people to take private healthcare by abolishing the ridiculous 12% Insurance Premium Tax we would be building more hospitals and employing more staff in the private sector.

The NHS simply has too many patients  and it has become too expensive to operate, meaning brilliant staff don’t get the pay they deserve.

But...but...but Boris promised us 50 new hospitals, and £350m a day extra to the NHS. It was true, I tell you - I saw it on the side of a bus.

[Ram-Alf]

46 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

This sounds like Ed Sheeran’s castle on the hill, if Ed wrote it in his 70s. 😢

Time Waits for no Man...as they say 😉

[Archied]

4 hours ago, True Ram said:

I think the trouble with the NHS is people are in the AE when they don't  need to be there  I was at the AE at Derby about 5 months ago for 22 hours with the wife Kidney stone  I saw the same old faces from about 3 years ago still ordering kebabs to be delivered to AE that is the trouble  and as far cancer it's a Basxxrd I've had  it and got very good treatment from the NHS 

Yep you’ve got the regulars up AandE but many more with them now youve got more chance of seeing nessy than a gp or a dentist 

[Ram-Alf]

6 minutes ago, Archied said:

Yep you’ve got the regulars up AandE but many more with them now youve got more chance of seeing nessy than a gp or a dentist 

Would you like me to tell you something really stupid...well here goes, I went to put my prescription renewal in at the Doctors last Thursday...Sinfin, The box we put it in had a message over the slit in the box on the wall and it said, Key lost please hand your prescription to the receptionist, There were already some 5 people in the queue for one reason or another, The guy at the front was arguing with the receptionist that he is unable to get through on the phone to make an appointment, The receptionist countered with I'm sorry but you have to ring at 8am to make the appointment, Some 15mins later I get to hand my renewal form in and asked...ever thought of getting another box...I got this 🙄

It beggars belief 🤷‍♂️

 

[Tamworthram]

33 minutes ago, Ram-Alf said:

Would you like me to tell you something really stupid...well here goes, I went to put my prescription renewal in at the Doctors last Thursday...Sinfin, The box we put it in had a message over the slit in the box on the wall and it said, Key lost please hand your prescription to the receptionist, There were already some 5 people in the queue for one reason or another, The guy at the front was arguing with the receptionist that he is unable to get through on the phone to make an appointment, The receptionist countered with I'm sorry but you have to ring at 8am to make the appointment, Some 15mins later I get to hand my renewal form in and asked...ever thought of getting another box...I got this 🙄

It beggars belief 🤷‍♂️

 

To be fair, she'd probably had her fill of complaining patients by then and the last thing she needed was a sarcastic old git when probably none of it was her fault. 😀

[Ewe Ram]

The trouble with the NHS is that it is now expected to be everything to everyone. I really believe that there are lots of things that, if you want them, you pay for them. You keep taking more out than goes in and you get what you now have - impossible situation. And I work in the NHS. 

[Ram-Alf]

40 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

To be fair, she'd probably had her fill of complaining patients by then and the last thing she needed was a sarcastic old git when probably none of it was her fault. 😀

Totally agree Tamworth 😁, 15mins of my life lost, But...and yes there's a but, The head honcho of Sinfin Surgery also runs the Hollybrook Med Centre in Heatherton Village so I'm guessing he's not short of a few bob, For the sake of £10s a receptionist was lost, For the sake of £10s a patients patients was lost 😉

 

[Ram-Alf]

15 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said:

The trouble with the NHS is that it is now expected to be everything to everyone. I really believe that there are lots of things that, if you want them, you pay for them. You keep taking more out than goes in and you get what you now have - impossible situation. And I work in the NHS. 

It's a wonderful bit of kit is our NHS, I had my own bed at the Children's hospital 😉 as I was always climbing trees and falling from them, Legs and arms broken over a few years, Cataract's fixed in both eyes, Cartledge(arthroscopy), 2 broken collar bones, Numerous counts of stitches and a Circumcision(no i'm not Jewish)all done from our NHS...a great institution.

The only time I went private was for a Vasectomy as the then Wife was on the pill for too long and the Doctor said I had to either use contraception or go for a Vasectomy, Well she went through the pain of 2 children so it was my turn to feel the pain, Marie Stopes clinic in Birmingham, It was booked and paid for, A journey down and the snip was done...not the NHS way through the 2 veg but halfway up the meat 😁

I had to fill in a questionnaire about the service, I gave them a good 5✨In the comments it asked for my personnel views, As I was given coffee and biscuits I said rather than plain biscuits chocolate ones would have been better 😁     

[Tamworthram]

30 minutes ago, Ram-Alf said:

Totally agree Tamworth 😁, 15mins of my life lost, But...and yes there's a but, The head honcho of Sinfin Surgery also runs the Hollybrook Med Centre in Heatherton Village so I'm guessing he's not short of a few bob, For the sake of £10s a receptionist was lost, For the sake of £10s a patients patients was lost 😉

 

It sounds like you had good reason to be dissatisfied but (there's another one), I assume it wasn't the head honcho having to endure your sarcasm but some innocent receptionist. So, sympathy for your overall experience but no sympathy for the 🙄you got.

[Grumpy Git]

I've been ordering my prescriptions on the NHS 'Patient Access' App for years now.

Open the App, select 'medication', tick the box(es) as required for each med. and walk to the pharmacy two days later, jobs a gud'un.

 

https://www.patientaccess.com/

Edited February 6 by Grumpy Git

[CBX1985]

12 hours ago, Bob The Badger said:

Yep.

Lots of doctors work short weeks for the NHS now so they can do private work.

That is accentuated with specialists, of which, in most areas, there is a desperate shortage. 

I'm married to one (consultant anaesthetist) and... that isn't the panacea it appears.

Consultants sign up for a number of blocks - a right they have had since the founding of the NHS.  My wife works four 8 am to 8pm shifts per week.  Twice a month she does an extra day which pretty much doubles her pay.

However, due to the way tax/pension is deducted doing five days for the NHS actually results in lower pay than doing four over those hours.  There needs to be a drastic uptick in earnings to justify doing anymore.  

I am an IFA and many of my clients are doctors.  The above is the standard approach; some do a more balanced approach - but 4 and 1 give or take is the norm.  Get rid of the private work, most will just not do the extra day.

Edited February 6 by CBX1985

[ariotofmyown]

I think we need to start looking towards other countries for inspiration, but just not the US. There are other models than just NHS and the US.

The NHS was conceived when there was a much larger working population and older people died earlier, often immediately of things like heart attacks.

Our population is aging now, people are living longer, but are needing lots more medical attention, let alone care.

I think I was ok with how things were in the UK, when it seemed that private health just got you none urgent care more quickly. That seems to have changed though as NHS backlogs just become huge.

Whilst the current government has been pretty woeful in regards to NHS, their main failing has been almost their total absence of future long term planning.

We are spending so much money on the NHS already and more is needed all the time. Of course things could be more efficient, but the key issue is that there are loads of unhealthy and ill people.

The hope must be that AI can massively improve efficiency so lots of work can be automated.

It doesn't feel right though that a person can get much better health care if they have more money, especially when there is rarely a link between earnings and usefulness to society.

But is it also ok for us all to cover the higher cost of medical care for people who are increasing their risk through lifestyle choices? Maybe it is, because there are huge tax incomes on smoking, drinking, junk food etc.

Effective leadership would raise these problems and have a mature discussion about what we could do. It would also help if the people in charge had some concept of relying 100% on the NHS, rather than thinking of it as something the proles used.

[Tamworthram]

11 hours ago, Grumpy Git said:

I've been ordering my prescriptions on the NHS 'Patient Access' App for years now.

Open the App, select 'medication', tick the box(es) as required for each med. and walk to the pharmacy two days later, jobs a gud'un.

 

https://www.patientaccess.com/

Same here. 

[Day]

Same here as well, also get a text from the chemist to say when it's ready. Usually around a week, although I could go in a couple days later and ask for it, then wait. There is even a service which if you're over a certain age they will deliver to your door. I think Lloyds is one that offer an online service as well and post via Royal Mail special delivery.

The NHS app is pretty decent to be fair, can us it to bring up all medical history, contact the doctors via messages for non important issues. 

Prior to that I used some website, can't remember the name, was a bit of a mess but it worked. Never had to go into the doctors to fill any forms out.