TheRamOfSwad Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) If I was Paul Warne I'd be looking at January and thinking we should by no means be dropping any points against these sides If we hoover up these points against some fairly poor teams it will give us a real push for automatics and hopefully and boost in January unlike last year with the additional signings to bolster our chances, whoever comes in will be crucial and they must be better than the players currently in the squad as minimum criteria January could be the pivotal part of the season for The Rams 🐏 Let's believe! Edited January 3 by TheRamOfSwad Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, TheRamOfSwad said: If I was Paul Warne I'd be looking at January and thinking we should by no means be dropping any points against these sides If we hoover up these points against some fairly poor teams it will give us a real push for automatics and hopefully and boost in January unlike last year with the additional signings to bolster our chances, whoever comes in will be crucial and they must be better than the players currently in the squad as minimum criteria January could be the pivotal part of the season for The Rams 🐏 Let's believe! Reading will be a tough one as they're finally hitting some good form. Unbeaten in 6 (including draws vs Peterborough and Oxford) and only 1 defeat in 9 in the league. Form over the last 6 games: Fleetwood - 2 points (24th) Burton - 7 points (16th) Lincoln - 2 points (23rd) Reading - 10 points (9th) Cheltenham - 8 points (14th) Honestly, anything less than 13 points from those 5 games would be a disappointment. MackworthRamIsGod and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 55 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Reading will be a tough one as they're finally hitting some good form. Unbeaten in 6 (including draws vs Peterborough and Oxford) and only 1 defeat in 9 in the league. Form over the last 6 games: Fleetwood - 2 points (24th) Burton - 7 points (16th) Lincoln - 2 points (23rd) Reading - 10 points (9th) Cheltenham - 8 points (14th) Honestly, anything less than 13 points from those 5 games would be a disappointment. So less than 4 wins and 1 draw would be disappointing 🤨 Whilst a good opportunity to push on, imo football is never as simple as looking at league positions to determine if we will win or not. Eoghan1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, Returning ram said: So less than 4 wins and 1 draw would be disappointing 🤨 Whilst a good opportunity to push on, imo football is never as simple as looking at league positions to determine if we will win or not. Good to know that you'd be content with dropping points against Fleetwood, Burton, Lincoln and Cheltenham, but I won't be. We don't have a divine right to beat those sides, but a side competing for automatics definitely should be beating them. RoyMac5, LeedsCityRam, McMuffin and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 minutes ago, Returning ram said: So less than 4 wins and 1 draw would be disappointing 🤨 Whilst a good opportunity to push on, imo football is never as simple as looking at league positions to determine if we will win or not. He hasn't. He's also looked at current league form. Over the same period (6 games), we've picked up 13 points and are therefore in better form than all of those teams. Bessie1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Good to know that you'd be content with dropping points against Fleetwood, Burton, Lincoln and Cheltenham, but I won't be. We don't have a divine right to beat those sides, but a side competing for automatics definitely should be beating them. 13 from 15 would be a great return. You're a stat man, look at how many games teams during a season get that return, I don't know answer but I'd be surprised if Man City do it more than a couple a season. 4 wins from 5 would not be a disappointment, I'd be happy with that and anything over is a bonus. Bessie1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 9 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Good to know that you'd be content with dropping points against Fleetwood, Burton, Lincoln and Cheltenham, but I won't be. We don't have a divine right to beat those sides, but a side competing for automatics definitely should be beating them. Last season we drew at Fleetwood and lost at Lincoln under the previous manager. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRamOfSwad Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 (edited) Just think if we want to be automatically promoted we should beating these teams, we will have a much harder run in later in the season and this is a opportunity to get a winning run together and set us up to finish strong Last year after January we fell off and the lack of signings was a factor in that Edited January 3 by TheRamOfSwad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Last season we drew at Fleetwood and lost at Lincoln under the previous manager. Last season we also lost to Fleetwood at home 0-2 and drew against 10 man Lincoln at home under the current manager. Edited January 3 by Jubbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 34 minutes ago, Returning ram said: 4 wins from 5 would not be a disappointment, I'd be happy with that and anything over is a bonus. This would be a great return but we ALSO need to win most of the 6 pointers, when they come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 33 minutes ago, Returning ram said: 13 from 15 would be a great return. You're a stat man, look at how many games teams during a season get that return, I don't know answer but I'd be surprised if Man City do it more than a couple a season. 4 wins from 5 would not be a disappointment, I'd be happy with that and anything over is a bonus. I agree 4 wins from 5 would be good enough. That would mean 12 points from a possible 15 on top of our 25 points from the last 30 available. Which would total at 37 points from a possible 45 points topping the desired 2 points per game by 7 points over a 15 game stretch. Aka as automatic promotion form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 15 minutes ago, Returning ram said: 13 from 15 would be a great return. You're a stat man, look at how many games teams during a season get that return, I don't know answer but I'd be surprised if Man City do it more than a couple a season. 4 wins from 5 would not be a disappointment, I'd be happy with that and anything over is a bonus. There's a big gulf in quality between the top 8 and the rest of the league. It's why a lot of the top sides go on long runs and why it can be difficult to gain points on the top sides even when you go on a very good run yourself. The run we were just on had that return (8 wins and 1 draw). Portsmouth have done it twice - 02/09 to 07/1 (7 wins and 1 draw), followed by 28/11 to 23/12 (4 wins and a draw) Bolton - 21-10 to 28/11 (6 wins and 1 draw), 23/12 to present (4 wins with Cheltenham up next) Peterborough - 25/11 to 23/12 (4 wins and a draw) Oxford - 16/09 to 21/10 (5 wins and a draw) Stevenage - 28/10 to 09/12 (5 wins and a draw) 10 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Last season we drew at Fleetwood and lost at Lincoln under the previous manager. There's a bit of a difference. At the start of last season, general expectation was a mixture of mid-table and top 6. This season, it's a mixture of top 6 and automatics. Squads change so much in L1 you can't judge teams this season off last season either. Just look at Oxford who were challenging for promotion in the 3 seasons from 2019-2022, only to be 19th last season (just 2 points clear of relegation), and now back up challenging for promotion again. Fleetwood had also only lost 1 of their opening 4 games before playing us (beating Plymouth), with our draw being halfway through their 9 game unbeaten run. Lincoln had a slow start to their season, but beat Barnsley in the cup 3-0 2 weeks before playing us, and were up to 8th in the table after scoring 6 goals against Bristol Rovers just 4 days after our game. Even so, we were all disappointed with those results just like we will be if we don't beat them this time around. RoyMac5 and LeedsCityRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Last season we also lost to Fleetwood at home 0-2 and drew against 10 man Lincoln at home under the current manager. This season we have beaten Fleetwood at home and Lincoln at home in the cup under the current manager 🤷🏻♂️ Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 42 minutes ago, TheRamOfSwad said: Just think if we want to be automatically promoted we should beating these teams, we will have a much harder run in later in the season and this is a opportunity to get a winning run together and set us up to finish strong Last year after January we fell off and the lack of signings was a factor in that You can’t take anything for granted in this league. Portsmouth and Peterborough (both of whom I’m sure have ambitions of automatic promotion) have dropped points (at home) against teams on that list. Having said that, January really does look like an great opportunity to strengthen our challenge. What could possibly go wrong. 😮 SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 If we're to challenge for the automatic places, with three teams above us, we have to be relentless and average a fair bit over 2 points a game (if we're going to lose to rivals like Peterborough). Really we need to be aiming for and expecting 15 points from these 5 games, which puts us back in the mix. But football is not straightforward and things can go wrong, so we might not manage that tally. However, as @Ghost of Cloughsays, and because of the big gulf in quality he mentions, anything less than 13 points will be a disappointment. It will also likely see us fall a little away from the race for automatics. You cannot ease off in this division or you'll find your rivals are away over the horizon. JustOneBiblicalKazim and Ghost of Clough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Portsmouth have done it twice - 02/09 to 07/1 (7 wins and 1 draw), followed by 28/11 to 23/12 (4 wins and a draw) Bolton - 21-10 to 28/11 (6 wins and 1 draw), 23/12 to present (4 wins with Cheltenham up next) Peterborough - 25/11 to 23/12 (4 wins and a draw) Oxford - 16/09 to 21/10 (5 wins and a draw) Stevenage - 28/10 to 09/12 (5 wins and a draw) 2 hours ago, Foreveram said: So not many, I'm willing to wager that you can pick any team in the top three leagues to get four wins and a draw, they won't do it. I accept there is a gulf, however a refs call, a key injury, a freak result etc etc, means that over 5 games it's difficult always to get positive results regards of the opponent. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 It’s a cliche but the best approach to take things one game at a time. The first step is bouncing back quickly and getting a positive result v Fleetwood to consolidate our position in the top six. We can’t take that for granted in itself. There is no point focusing on other teams and getting wrapped up in chasing them down. They are not going to be worrying about us. Portsmouth, Bolton and Peterborough will simply be looking to win the next game and maintain their own pace. Barnsley, Oxford and Stevenage will be pushing hard too. We have to focus on ourselves and get the small wins and things will snowball. If we can stay laser focused and routinely win the games we would be expected to, it puts less pressure on the games v the top 6/7. Tamworthram, Zag zig, Steve How Hard? and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Scott129 said: He hasn't. He's also looked at current league form. Over the same period (6 games), we've picked up 13 points and are therefore in better form than all of those teams. If only football was that simple 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 points minimum in my opinion. Hoping Posh lose a couple of players in Jan and somebody comes in for Evatt at Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: This would be a great return but we ALSO need to win most of the 6 pointers, when they come along. Or at least not lose to give them a margin over us. I was thoroughly hacked off that we conceded the 3rd on Monday. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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