Gary Lineker

[Bob The Badger]

15 minutes ago, therealhantsram said:

This is nonsense. Anyone can see that the viewing figures were up for the same reason that everyone slows down to rubberneck an accident on the motorway.

I watched for the first time this season to see what it was like.

I lasted until about 2 minutes into the Leicester game before I got utterly bored and went back to watch Wossy.

It was surreal that's for sure and I'm not sure it will catch on.

[G STAR RAM]

5 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said:

You actually said that the opinion of a woman who was a holocaust survivor carried no more weight than that of somebody in s DCFC forum, only you went back in and edited it because even you realised how ridiculous you sounded.

How do I know she knows more about it because her family were murdered?

You're right I don't.

I just kind of jumped to the conclusion that somebody who had their family murdered by a genocidal regime would know more about it than the likes of you and me.

And you have had examples of what Braverman said and how the Tories have systematically blamed immigrants for problems that have little or nothing to do with them.

The Tories keep battering the Stop the Boats message because it instils fear and positions those people as the enemy in exactly the same way as Hitler positioned the Jews as the enemy

The Nazis blamed the Jews for the economic and social issues that had nothing to do with them and the Tories are doing the same to illegal immigrants and people are falling for it. I guess they are, largely speaking, the same people that fell for the lies about Brexit.

No I didnt put that and go back and edit at all, so really not sure why you put that.

Ive not seen any reasonable comparisons.

Ive not seen the Government blaming economic and social issues on immigrants either, perhaps you could link some articles.

Back to everyone with a different point of view falling for lies about Brexit ? Its boring and been done to death so won't bother responding to that. 

[Crewton]

35 minutes ago, cstand said:

Think he signed another contract in 2020 with new T&Cs

Do you think that would have mattered if he'd published a post critical of the Government?

The Conservatives have, for years now, become increasingly mardy about criticism. Even after stuffing the hierarchy of the BBC with their own kind, they're still crying about "harsh words".

It's pathetic and I think Sunak has just realised that.

[uttoxram75]

2 hours ago, cstand said:

With viewing figures up 500,000 for MOTD it will strengthen the BBCs response.
In 2020 Lineker agreed a pay cut and curb tweets, depends what’s in his contract though.

I know what’s in my contract  I would have been suspended pending an investigation if found guilty I would be sacked with no compensation.

For criticising a government policy?

[cstand]

9 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said:

For criticising a government policy?

It would be classed as a possible hate speech towards the Jewish community.

People need to understand it’s about the language he used, not the fact he was criticising the government.

 

 

Edited March 12, 2023 by cstand

[uttoxram75]

5 minutes ago, cstand said:

It would be classed as a possible hate speech towards the Jewish community.

People need to understand it’s about the language he used, not the fact he was criticising the government.

 

 

Thats a hell of a stretch, desperation even to distract from the policy. Some right wing Jewish leaders may push that agenda but many ordinary folk of the Jewish faith will understand Linekers point I reckon.

[Bob The Badger]

33 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

No I didnt put that and go back and edit at all, so really not sure why you put that.

Ive not seen any reasonable comparisons.

Ive not seen the Government blaming economic and social issues on immigrants either, perhaps you could link some articles.

Back to everyone with a different point of view falling for lies about Brexit ? Its boring and been done to death so won't bother responding to that. 

I got it from reading it mate but you're right, you said it in a different comment.

And you find it boring because you fell for the lies about the NHS, the oven ready deals, the better trade deals, the no increases in red tape, and Ireland not being an issue.  

It's best to feign boredom when you've been duped because the alternative is to question you're own way of thinking and belief system and that's really hard.  
 

 

[Bob The Badger]

2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

Was just making the point that the evidence of something born 10 years after the evidence being discussed would carry no more weight than someone on the DCFC forum.

here you go @G STAR RAM

I presume you meant someone not something. 

[G STAR RAM]

2 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said:

I got it from reading it mate but you're right, you said it in a different comment.

And you find it boring because you fell for the lies about the NHS, the oven ready deals, the better trade deals, the no increases in red tape, and Ireland not being an issue.  

It's best to feign boredom when you've been duped because the alternative is to question you're own way of thinking and belief system and that's really hard.  
 

There was no NHS lie, just a theoretical situatuon which I'm yet to meet anyone who actually believed would happen.

The oven ready deal was discussed after the Brexit vote so not sure how I fell for that. 

Not sure apart the trade deals, I was told by the Remain campaign that it would take years and years to sign trade deals, so I'm assuming there are still none in place...unless the Leave campaign was lying which I'm certain that they didn't. 

The Ireland issue is of no consequence to me or my family so Im afraid I didn't even consider it.

I regularly question my own way of thinking thank you, I read and listen to the left wing media more than anything as I like to hear alternate views, I'm pretty sure that you coule not say the same because its really hard when you believe that everything you say is right...

[G STAR RAM]

6 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said:

here you go @G STAR RAM

I presume you meant someone not something. 

So I didnt say holocaust survivor, thank you for confirming. 

[Bob The Badger]

32 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

So I didnt say holocaust survivor, thank you for confirming. 

You were referring to a holocaust survivor. Grow up. 

[G STAR RAM]

4 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said:

You were referring to a holocaust survivor. Grow up.

You were putting words in my mouth that I never said. Its ok to just hold your hands up and admit you lied.

The holocaust survivor part is irrelevant. 

The fact is that she was not alive during the 1930s, so unless you have evidence to back up that she is a specialist in the area, than her word carries no more weight than anyone else that has read, watched and heard stories about it.

[AndyinLiverpool]

1 hour ago, cstand said:

It would be classed as a possible hate speech towards the Jewish community.

People need to understand it’s about the language he used, not the fact he was criticising the government.

 

 

Sorry but that's b*******

[sage]

Anyway he said 1930s Germany not Nazis 

He could have meant 1931 or 32 and was condemning multi party coalitions presided over by a fat Prussian with an award winning moustache.  

[cstand]

1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

Sorry but that's b*******

I also have a very strict drugs and alcohol policy, we also have a strict internal complaints procedure. All my phone calls are recorded.

If I make comments public on social media for everyone to see FB, Twitter etc and it’s reported to the company they will investigate any complaints.

My son has made comments on FB in the past and someone made threats to inform his employers to get him the sack, sad but true.

Thats why nothing is on my profile especially my employers on any social media.

About seven ago we all had to sign a new contract about the consequences of social media after several people successfully appealed against disciplinary action against them.

This is the only social media site where I make any comments.

Just seen a video on Twitter where a guy asks several young women to define what is a women, they all looked scared to death to make any comments.

If I find it I will post it.

Edited March 12, 2023 by cstand

[Bob The Badger]

1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said:

You were putting words in my mouth that I never said. Its ok to just hold your hands up and admit you lied.

The holocaust survivor part is irrelevant. 

The fact is that she was not alive during the 1930s, so unless you have evidence to back up that she is a specialist in the area, than her word carries no more weight than anyone else that has read, watched and heard stories about it.

Her family being murdered in the holocaust is irrelevant?

And you think it's just as likely that there are people on this board who know as much about the holocaust as a woman whose family was killed in it?

It's like saying some random dude in America probably knows as much about the Hillsborough disaster as the parents of a kid who died in it.

I guess it's *possible* but it's a preposterous thing to say.

You do have a way of backing yourself into corners.

 

[Walkley Ram]

3 hours ago, cstand said:

It would be classed as a possible hate speech towards the Jewish community.

People need to understand it’s about the language he used, not the fact he was criticising the government.

 

 

This is the worst take I've ever seen, and I watched Salah's penalty on what was left of match of the day.

[kevinhectoring]

On 10/03/2023 at 18:38, Anon said:

It baffles me that companies now seem to believe they can and should dictate what their employees say and think away from work.

They’re not any old company. They are funded thru the licence fee and they are required to be impartial. Lineker is their highest paid talent, is no expert on politics and his tweet was just stupid. For Lineker’s cronies to come out in support is sort of comical (‘solidarity, with a glottal stop) and the distinction between employees and other presenters is an irrelevant distraction. I think the BBC should keep Lineker off air until he agrees to be muzzled. And no I’m not a fan of Truss, Braverman or their despicable Rwanda plan 

[cstand]

Got previous as well did not apologise for a misleading tweet or correct the tweet to his army of followers.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/bbc-accused-of-sidestepping-complaint-on-lineker-tweet-about-west-bank-death-7y3hoBLq1LcvkGkg2ZUcpL?reloadTime=1678651200011

Edited March 12, 2023 by cstand

[ram59]

I've just watched match of the day 2, add a little bit of commentary and double the length of the highlights and it's job done. In other words the successful formula that lasted for decades in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Even the brief highlights shown is better than having to sit through nearly 2 hours consisting of drivel from overpaid Lineker and co.