Day Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Crewton said: First season, we can spend up to 70%, unless the EFL business plan for us says different. Sure I read there was no leeway for relegated sides, the only exception being a player signed before September in the relegated season on a 3 year or more deal would be exempt from wage bill restrictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, David said: Sure I read there was no leeway for relegated sides, the only exception being a player signed before September in the relegated season on a 3 year or more deal would be exempt from wage bill restrictions? From the EFL FFP rules: 12 Former Championship Clubs 12.1 The SCMP requirement for a Former Championship Club shall, in its first season as a League One Club, be amended such that the Club’s Player Related Expenditure (as defined in Appendix B) shall not exceed: 12.1.1 75% of the Club’s Relevant Turnover (as defined in paragraph 1 of Appendix A) for the Reporting Period, plus 12.1.2 100% of the Club’s Football Fortune Income (as defined in Paragraph 2 of Appendix A) for the Reporting Period. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they've amended them yet again! Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, ImARam2 said: Where do you get £300 million from? Sky TV / Premier guarantees £105 million, plus £400k for every time the club is at home on live Sky Football. So let's say 6 home games x £400k = another £2.4 million. The club also receives another £400k for every position the team finishes in the Premier, so a team which finishes bottom they get £400k and a team who finishes top receive £8 million. If a club gets relegated after just one season, they receive another £60 million spread over 3 seasons. So a team finishing bottom will receive £105m + £400k + £60m = £162,800,000. Of course, this doesn't take into account increased season tickets and other merchandise revenue during one season in the premier, which I suppose you could add another £30 million. It would probably be nearer £200 million for one season, followed by 3 seasons in the Championship. £300 mill for surviving one season in the Prem was the figure given out by an “Expert” on sky. Can you believe yo get extra parachute money if you don’t get relegated the first season!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Depends whether or not we are nice to Mr Wonderful Parry I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, David said: Sure I read there was no leeway for relegated sides, the only exception being a player signed before September in the relegated season on a 3 year or more deal would be exempt from wage bill restrictions? 60% of some income (75% for a club just relegated), 100% of others The 60/75% is basically the 'fixed income' - STs, league distributions, sponsorship deals, etc The 100% is the one off income - Cup money, owner injection, net transfer fees. It is also player related expenditure, rather than overall club wage bill (coaches and backroom staff excluded). Wages, signing on fees, bonuses, expenses, NI, tax, pensions are all included. If a player picks up a serious injury and rule them out for the season, their wages will then be excluded. Player-coaches will only have 50% of wages assigned. Day and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: £300 mill for surviving one season in the Prem was the figure given out by an “Expert” on sky. Can you believe yo get extra parachute money if you don’t get relegated the first season!!!! Something like £105m first season for finishing 17th, £95m for 2nd season finishing bottom, then £95m in parachute payments if staying in the Championship for 3 years Crewton, CBRammette and jimtastic56 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 60% of some income (75% for a club just relegated), 100% of others The 60/75% is basically the 'fixed income' - STs, league distributions, sponsorship deals, etc The 100% is the one off income - Cup money, owner injection, net transfer fees. It is also player related expenditure, rather than overall club wage bill (coaches and backroom staff excluded). Wages, signing on fees, bonuses, expenses, NI, tax, pensions are all included. If a player picks up a serious injury and rule them out for the season, their wages will then be excluded. Player-coaches will only have 50% of wages assigned. Remember when football was just watching and hoping the ball hits the net? ? Ghost of Clough, Comrade 86, Crewton and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 27/05/2022 at 12:43, Oldben said: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/kieran-maguire-hints-at-potential-derby-county-supporter-discontent-following-chris-kirchners-takeover/ None of this is surprising. I don't expect derby to be promoted next season. I don't expect derby to be competitive next season, the team has to have a complete rebuild. Derby will have many weak areas, that I feel certain will not be strengthened by loan players willing to play in League 1 or by over the hill free agents that were not already snapped up by championship teams. I think derby have 3 years in League 1, while the debt to creditors is repaid. Not sure any of this matters, as it least there will be a club. What a joyless world you live in Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Premier ram said: What a joyless world you live in Argh, you've reminded me. Block posts AND mentions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967RAMS Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just when you thought the EFL couldn’t punish Derby County and the fans anymore. We now have to go to Port Vale. angieram and Ghost of Clough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, 1967RAMS said: Just when you thought the EFL couldn’t punish Derby County and the fans anymore. We now have to go to Port Vale. Couldn't ask for many better away days in L1 than Vale. GB SPORTS and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Couldn't ask for many better away days in L1 than Vale. Am I right in saying Port Vale are the only team in the league with a name not related to an actual place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dordogne-Ram Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 ? Forest Green Rovers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, 1967RAMS said: Just when you thought the EFL couldn’t punish Derby County and the fans anymore. We now have to go to Port Vale. Oh I don't know, a Vale of Port sounds like a decent enough place..... ? Crewton, DavesaRam and 1967RAMS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Am I right in saying Port Vale are the only team in the league with a name not related to an actual place? Two, the other being Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dordogne-Ram said: ? Forest Green Rovers ? Is a place ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Two, the other being Arsenal Crystal Palace is an historical oddity. The place is selhurst or south Norwood.....can't remember precisely but it's horrid, whatever ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dordogne-Ram said: ? Forest Green Rovers ? Nailsworth is the town, but Forest Green is the name of the area in the town. 9 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Two, the other being Arsenal Correct. Vale being the only EFL club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Two, the other being Arsenal Three - Forest Green Rovers Edit - seen GoC post about FGR being named after an area of the town of Nailsworth, which I hadn't realised. Crystal Palace, Arsenal and even Port Vale take their names from places too, though not places of habitation. Edited May 29, 2022 by Crewton CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Foreveram said: Two, the other being Arsenal Arsenal was based on the "Woolwich Arsenal" (In fact they were called it for a time. Wikipedia's great, eh) Edited May 29, 2022 by IslandExile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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