TheresOnlyWanChope Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I don't think the velodrome brings the same levels of polarised opinions. I bet most people think, Meh. Football though, makes some people think about overpaid prima donna's, about too much exposure on TV, about hooliganism in the 80s, about tribalism. And there's lots of people who just think it's a waste of money. I don't see a council risking peeing off all the people who don't like football,that's all. I think the council would have majority support from residents in the city. Hooliganism in the 80s shouldn’t be a factor in this. The council should absolutely explore the option of acquiring the stadium from MM. The loss of DcFC to the city would be disastrous financially, culturally, emotionally. I would argue the council spending money to acquire PP with the obvious economic benefits in future years would be ALOT more popular in Derby than the Arena/Velodrome construction. Ram1988 and LeedsCityRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I don't think the velodrome brings the same levels of polarised opinions. I bet most people think, Meh. Football though, makes some people think about overpaid prima donna's, about too much exposure on TV, about hooliganism in the 80s, about tribalism. And there's lots of people who just think it's a waste of money. I don't see a council risking peeing off all the people who don't like football,that's all. Derbys a football city, if someone doesn't like football they'll have 10 relatives and friends who go to the games. They'll be chuffed that for once the moneys being used for something other than poo and it may actually make a return after a few years. See my earlier post. No opposition will complain as it's likely to make them far more unpopular in Derby than popular. Foxy Ram and Rammy03 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Suggestion. Wip round then go to the casino and put it all on number 0 on roulette. (Sos, I’ve been drinking ?) Edited April 3, 2022 by Dean (hick) Saunders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dordogne-Ram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Involve not just Derby City Council - spread the net to include Derbyshire COUNTY Council,Derbyshire Dales District Council and perhaps Amber Valley DC. Recover the cost from the driving / speeding fines - plenty of scope for this on the A6, and not all residents would be affected and many others would be appreciative.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: And generate no income, let’s get real. If we are going to become sustainable, 20,000 plus ticket sales and all the other match day spend will be an important part of this. Playing at Burton etc is a non starter, how many more times does it have to be said… It.Was.A.Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I think that saving Derby County is very easy. We just need to revert back to our proper colours a white and navy blue. Surely it's obvious to everybody that Maxwell black is cursed. In order to fight back, we must ditch the black. We need to renew and go back to to blue. IslandExile and GlastoEls 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Curtains said: Some fans saying they don’t want the City Council to help with the Stadium . I would love to know what these fans would suggest then as an alternative if MM won’t budge on Stadium price and bidders won’t increase bids to accommodate this . Only reasonable alternatives allowed not ifs buts and maybes There are various possible scenarios that solve the funding shortfall. Problem is, there’s not now time to put any of them in place. This will get solved by MM realising that in order to avoid liquidation he needs to put his hand into his pocket again. Exactly the same as with the Gibbo issue. He needs to get on with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: I think you’re overstating any feeling against. The benefit to the economy is obvious. I doubt many fans of other teams will be alienated as it’s obviously beneficial to the city to safeguard Derby County and it’s stadium. Derby City Council could hold a referendum on the question. Always a good way of unifying the electorate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Put that light up cow back on top of the CO-OP building. It's still up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: I think that saving Derby County is very easy. We just need to revert back to our proper colours a white and navy blue. Surely it's obvious to everybody that Maxwell black is cursed. In order to fight back, we must ditch the black. We need to renew and go back to to blue. Finding a player like Colin Todd might be a better solution. This ... is what Wikipedia tells us, is it wrong? “Derby County Colours Derby County's original colours (right) were amber, chocolate and blue, though by the 1890s the club had adopted its now traditional colours of black and white, which are still in use today. In the 1970s and 1980s, colours for home matches were white shirts with small blue or red touches (on the club badge or shirt makers insignia), blue shorts and socks that were blue, red, white or a combination of the three.[73] The colours of away kits have varied widely, and although they are usually yellow/gold or blue, the colour for the away kit for the 2008–09 season was fluorescent green.[74] The club also introduced a surprise third kit in August 2008. Similar in design to the club's away kit of the 1970s, with blue and white stripes and reminiscent of the Argentina national team strip, the style was re-introduced following feedback from fans who said it was one of their favourite kits from the club's past.[75] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: I think that saving Derby County is very easy. We just need to revert back to our proper colours a white and navy blue. Surely it's obvious to everybody that Maxwell black is cursed. In order to fight back, we must ditch the black. We need to renew and go back to to blue. Finally!!! A sensible, well thought out, mightily considered and well argued post. Thank you. ? CornwallRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: This ... is what Wikipedia tells us Well for a start, you should be using @loweman2's book for any reference to historic Derby County kits. Secondly - if you know anything about the history of the club, you will know what colours they played in during their most successful period - ever. Fla Ram and kevinhectoring 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 No derby county always been black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Well for a start, you should be using @loweman2's book for any reference to historic Derby County kits. Secondly - if you know anything about the history of the club, you will know what colours they played in during their most successful period - ever. Yes I have quite a vivid memory of that period (though I can barely remember who scored yesterday afternoon). My point was simply that for @Cornwall ramto attribute the black shorts to Maxwell makes no sense because they were adopted by the club 50 years before Maxwell was born. That’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Yes I have quite a vivid memory of that period (though I can barely remember who scored yesterday afternoon). My point was simply that for @Cornwall ramto attribute the black shorts to Maxwell makes no sense because they were adopted by the club 50 years before Maxwell was born. That’s all. That's just silly. 50 years before Maxwell was born every team played in black and white, duh! Haven't you seen the photos? Sir Brian decided to leave the monochrome era and brought colour to all our lives. Maxwell decided that Derby County needed shorts to match his soul and Karma has been battering us ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Yes I have quite a vivid memory of that period (though I can barely remember who scored yesterday afternoon). My point was simply that for @Cornwall ramto attribute the black shorts to Maxwell makes no sense because they were adopted by the club 50 years before Maxwell was born. That’s all. Also...that's not me, there's an imposter!!!! kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Like I say how often is toyate sweat is used small to medium concerts could be held there and derby can still play there. Is Toyate Sweat one of them Rappers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, i-Ram said: Is Toyate Sweat one of them Rappers? No It is like derby VIP room in a way. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Whilst I can see the Council getting on board with the stadium ownership, I really can’t see it would be of any interest to a PB. I would have thought any PB interested in finessing a deal now would want the bricks and mortar in their ownership. Otherwise they are paying a large sum of money for fresh air. RAM1966, The Scarlet Pimpernel and Archied 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, CornwallRam said: That's just silly. 50 years before Maxwell was born every team played in black and white, duh! Haven't you seen the photos? Sir Brian decided to leave the monochrome era and brought colour to all our lives. Maxwell decided that Derby County needed shorts to match his soul and Karma has been battering us ever since. Don’t know quite what you’re saying. If you’re saying the club didn’t adopt black and white way back in the ? 1890s, I think you’re wrong. But as you suggest, it’s about romance not facts. My archetypal image of a Derby footballer is david mackay, in black and white. I don’t know when Cloughie changed the kit to blue but I’ll swear Mackay wore black shorts with a drawstring and knobbly knees . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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