PistoldPete Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Yet more ill informed bilge - We aren't jangling loose change as we turned down multi million pound bids for Lawrence. - Only had to sell Plange - no mention of Jozwiak Shinnie Jagielka etc - efl protocol dictates 9 points- nothing about rule change which has robbed 2 off us . This bilge needs replying to really to set him straight. Had enough of this crap. Complete and upper tripe. Is "The Football league" paper the official paper of the EFL? Quiet apart from anything else, it is Quantuma who has consistently said they are confident of a recovery, and the EFL who has consistently talked up the barriers to a rescue (and put some barriers in of their own) . And it was the EFL who said as recently as this week that they are concerned for the existence of the club? So how have EFL helped at all, if as the author has said the Rams are not in danger of running out of cash? All the EFL has done is cause undue levels of stress for Rams fans. So the author has got it the wrong way around completley. Edited March 6, 2022 by PistoldPete Indyram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Complete and upper tripe. Is "The Football league" paper the official paper of the EFL? Quiet apart from anything else, it is Quantuma who has consistently said they are confident of a recovery, and the EFL who has consistently talked up the barriers to a rescue (and put some barriers in of their own) . And it was the EFL who said as recently as this week that they are concerned for the existence of the club? So how have EFL helped at all, if as the author has said the Rams are not in danger of running out of cash? All the EFL has done is cause undue levels of stress for Rams fans. So the author has got it the wrong way around completley. We all know that they are out to get us one last desperate chance try save face. Our points deduction wrongly taken at least first 9 point suspend 3. We should be give those back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Complete and upper tripe. Is "The Football league" paper the official paper of the EFL? Quiet apart from anything else, it is Quantuma who has consistently said they are confident of a recovery, and the EFL who has consistently talked up the barriers to a rescue (and put some barriers in of their own) . And it was the EFL who said as recently as this week that they are concerned for the existence of the club? So how have EFL helped at all, if as the author has said the Rams are not in danger of running out of cash? All the EFL has done is cause undue levels of stress for Rams fans. So the author has got it the wrong way around completley. 2 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Yet more ill informed bilge - We aren't jangling loose change as we turned down multi million pound bids for Lawrence. - Only had to sell Plange - no mention of Jozwiak Shinnie Jagielka etc - efl protocol dictates 9 points- nothing about rule change which has robbed 2 off us . This bilge needs replying to really to set him straight. Had enough of this crap. His tag line says a fresh take on football, that article is about as fresh as stale bread. RadioactiveWaste, Gee SCREAMER !! and Indyram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: We all know that they are out to get us one last desperate chance try save face. Our points deduction wrongly taken at least first 9 point suspend 3. We should be give those back. We will have to win them back on the pitch b4, and stick two fingers up at EFL if we perform a miracle and manage to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: We will have to win them back on the pitch b4, and stick two fingers up at EFL if we perform a miracle and manage to stay up. Well did it earlier in the season so I dont see why we cant do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Actually while badly researched he makes good points. The bit about Derby not jangling loose change and Lawrence is baalocks and he ignores the finer points of the FFP questions which let’s face it everyone does unless your a Derby fan. The point of his article is we won’t go extinct as we’re valuable to too many people - the buyers who are still interested despite the debts and the EFL as a founder member and a big draw. There are a lot of smokescreens and hysteria being created by all parties that to some degree is all part of the negotiation pantomime. Doesn’t feel like that to us who are living every part of the nightmare but again the article also makes reference to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 3 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: Actually while badly researched he makes good points. The bit about Derby not jangling loose change and Lawrence is baalocks and he ignores the finer points of the FFP questions which let’s face it everyone does unless your a Derby fan. The point of his article is we won’t go extinct as we’re valuable to too many people - the buyers who are still interested despite the debts and the EFL as a founder member and a big draw. There are a lot of smokescreens and hysteria being created by all parties that to some degree is all part of the negotiation pantomime. Doesn’t feel like that to us who are living every part of the nightmare but again the article also makes reference to that. I certainly hope he is right about that one thing is that we will not go extinct. But he's pretty much wrong about everything else. The people who are trying to make sure we recover are Quantuma. That's their job. They may not be able to prove how we can survive to end of season because the method of funding depends on whether the PB pays a deposit and if so when. And things like Jozwiak transfer etc. And maybe negotiating extra funding with MSD. Extra bums on seats at Rams games. Or some combination of all those things. It's a constantly changing picture so how we fund ouselves til end of season will not be known from one week to another. But we will get by. And that's all EFL need to know. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 05/03/2022 at 05:06, Sparkle said: Whilst Jozwiak has moved on it leaves us with what 6 players under contract? That must leave any potential bidder reducing their offer as they are buying next to nothing but debt DCFC has premier league facilities, a large fan base and an academy that continues to produce serious talent. And free agents are cheaper by the day, as more and more clubs face financial distress. The key value issue is not what players are under contract, but what league we will play in Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 I think when rooney said ti he meant in terms of us being relegated, which, lets be honest, a lot of people seem to want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 I hope freaking admin announce pd is and then get on with the take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: I hope freaking admin announce pd is and then get on with the take over. roboto and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 2 hours ago, PistoldPete said: It's a constantly changing picture so how we fund ouselves til end of season will not be known from one week to another. But we will get by. And that's all EFL need to know. Under the rules don’t they need us to show them certainty of funding before we can get out of embargo ? Something that ‘will not be known from one week to another’ doesn’t seem to fit the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said: Under the rules don’t they need us to show them certainty of funding before we can get out of embargo ? Something that ‘will not be known from one week to another’ doesn’t seem to fit the bill. But if they’re not sure we have sufficient funding they won’t be following their rules if they allow us to carry on with the season. We're apparently carrying on so QED they must know/believe we have the funding and therefore they should lift the embargo. They won’t of course. But that says more about the efl and their deliberately uneven application of their rules in our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Under the rules don’t they need us to show them certainty of funding before we can get out of embargo ? Something that ‘will not be known from one week to another’ doesn’t seem to fit the bill. Quantuma has confirmed we have funding til end of season. So has embargo been lifted? If not why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Quantuma has confirmed we have funding til end of season. So has embargo been lifted? If not why not? Because that funding is to see out the fixtures, not pay off debts. You cannot take on more debt, which by giving out contracts, you will be committing to. In real terms, we should be paying our bills first. atherstoneram and Chester40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 17 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Yet more ill informed bilge - We aren't jangling loose change as we turned down multi million pound bids for Lawrence. - Only had to sell Plange - no mention of Jozwiak Shinnie Jagielka etc - efl protocol dictates 9 points- nothing about rule change which has robbed 2 off us . This bilge needs replying to really to set him straight. Had enough of this crap. 15 hours ago, PistoldPete said: Complete and upper tripe. Is "The Football league" paper the official paper of the EFL? Quiet apart from anything else, it is Quantuma who has consistently said they are confident of a recovery, and the EFL who has consistently talked up the barriers to a rescue (and put some barriers in of their own) . And it was the EFL who said as recently as this week that they are concerned for the existence of the club? So how have EFL helped at all, if as the author has said the Rams are not in danger of running out of cash? All the EFL has done is cause undue levels of stress for Rams fans. So the author has got it the wrong way around completley. Fine by me. Every time a negative news story is written or we lose a key player, we seem to play well and win. I'm sure Rooney uses this stuff to get the players up for the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Because that funding is to see out the fixtures, not pay off debts. You cannot take on more debt, which by giving out contracts, you will be committing to. In real terms, we should be paying our bills first. I don’t think the plan is to take on debt. If we do not renew contracts we will only have six players left by the summer. just as I would respect us to be allowed to renew season tickets we should be allowed to renew contracts. It’s part of day to day trading. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: I don’t think the plan is to take on debt. If we do not renew contracts we will only have six players left by the summer. just as I would respect us to be allowed to renew season tickets we should be allowed to renew contracts. It’s part of day to day trading. Oh fair enough. Apologies, I wrongly assumed you meant signing new players. But yes, we should in my opinion be allowed to extend contracts of current players, it’s vital as part of our ability to trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Oh fair enough. Apologies, I wrongly assumed you meant signing new players. But yes, we should in my opinion be allowed to extend contracts of current players, it’s vital as part of our ability to trade. Yeah not your fault. EFL use "transfer embargo" to mean anything that stops us (although apparently not Reading) keeping players as well as signing them, which is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Yeah not your fault. EFL use "transfer embargo" to mean anything that stops us (although apparently not Reading) keeping players as well as signing them, which is wrong. Reading are paying their bills and are not in administration.Our situation and theirs are totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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