Cam the Ram Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 He's not even our owner yet and he's got another Championship club making statements to dispute him. At this rate rather than asking which clubs Derby or Derby affiliated people have pissed off, you'd get a quicker answer asking which clubs are left who we haven't. It's all a bit tiring .... cosmic and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: He's not even our owner yet and he's got another Championship club making statements to dispute him. At this rate rather than asking which clubs Derby or Derby affiliated people have pissed off, you'd get a quicker answer asking which clubs are left who we haven't. It's all a bit tiring .... "When we were approached in February 2022 regarding the potential sale of the Club a number of valuations were put to us by one party culminating in an offer which was confirmed as acceptable. "This was just the start of a process that could have led to a successful takeover. Various other elements that would have been required were not completed by the bidder within the agreed timescale. "The most important point to make absolutely clear is that contrary to suggestions in the public domain we at no time increased the asking price from the price and terms included in the originally agreed offer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: He's not even our owner yet and he's got another Championship club making statements to dispute him. At this rate rather than asking which clubs Derby or Derby affiliated people have pissed off, you'd get a quicker answer asking which clubs are left who we haven't. It's all a bit tiring .... You have to factor in that with Risedales involvement with Preston then they could essentially be used as a stick to beat us with on behalf of the EFL. Of course that is just a personal opinion and is in no way fact. I suppose it all depends on where you sit in assuming how impartial the EFL have been to our predicament. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: He's not even our owner yet and he's got another Championship club making statements to dispute him. At this rate rather than asking which clubs Derby or Derby affiliated people have pissed off, you'd get a quicker answer asking which clubs are left who we haven't. It's all a bit tiring .... Meh. I’d consider being responsible for Ridsdale having a huff as a badge of honour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: You have to factor in that with Risedales involvement with Preston then they could essentially be used as a stick to beat us with on behalf of the EFL. Of course that is just a personal opinion and is in no way fact. I suppose it all depends on where you sit in assuming how impartial the EFL have been to our predicament. How is it derby county fault is it so how can they complain it is our fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just now, B4ev6is said: How is it derby county fault is it so how can they complain it is our fault. It's definitely not our fault buddy but in my opinion if the EFL can find a way to get at us then they'll use it. They have shown they will do this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: How is it derby county fault is it so how can they complain it is our fault. They aren’t B4, they are saying what CK said was porkies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Steve How Hard? said: It's definitely not our fault buddy but in my opinion if the EFL can find a way to get at us then they'll use it. They have shown they will do this already. Well we can argue that kircher chose to come back in. I think might not to hack derby fans off they should learned we say we are going to do something we do it. IslandExile and Steve How Hard? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: It's definitely not our fault buddy but in my opinion if the EFL can find a way to get at us then they'll use it. They have shown they will do this already. Are you saying the EFL and Preston are in cahoots about statements relating to their sale falling through ? Really…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: They aren’t B4, they are saying what CK said was porkies ? Just because he chose not continue with them and chose to derby instead as we got better club support base than them sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: How is it derby county fault is it so how can they complain it is our fault. If it rains the EFL considers it Derbys fault ? Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Are you saying the EFL and Preston are in cahoots about statements relating to their sale falling through ? Really…. Kathcairns and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: You have to factor in that with Risedales involvement with Preston then they could essentially be used as a stick to beat us with on behalf of the EFL. Of course that is just a personal opinion and is in no way fact. I suppose it all depends on where you sit in assuming how impartial the EFL have been to our predicament. A personal opinion Steve, which I share with you. Mr. Ridsdale, who did to Leeds what Morris has done to Derby and who was later struck off and disqualified from being a company director for seven years for transferring £347,000 into his personal bank account instead of his company, which had gone into liquidation with debts of £478,698 - most of which was owed to HMRC. By this time he was chairman of Preston. In order to continue in this role he gave up his directorship but was employed as an advisor to the owner.While the Insolvency Service expressed concern at his continuing presence at Preston, legally he had cocked a snook at them and is still involved there today and represents the club at the EFL, where despite his track record he is regarded as a fit and proper person. In Preston's spat with Kirchner there will be no independent witnesses to what happened. So we'll never know for sure. But I think a reasonable person is entitled to distrust Ridsdale, given his past. So there you have it. For me, Preston's statement today is not worth the paper it is written on but the EFL may put a much higher value on it. Edited April 10, 2022 by Brailsford Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: A personal opinion Steve, which I share with you. Mr. Ridsdale, who did to Leeds what Morris has done to Derby and who was later struck off and disqualified from being a company director for seven years for transferring £347,000 into his personal back account instead of his company, which had gone into liquidation with debts of £478,698 - most of which was owed to HMRC. By this time he was chairman of Preston. In order to continue in this role he gave up his directorship but was employed as an advisor to the owner.While the Insolvency Service expressed concern at his continuing presence at Preston, legally he had cocked a snook at them and is still involved there today and represents the club at the EFL, where despite his track record he is regarded as a fit and proper person. In Preston's spat with Kirchner there will be no independent witnesses to what happened. So we'll never know for sure. But I think a reasonable person is entitled to distrust Ridsdale, given his past. So there you have it. For me, Preston's statement today is not worth the paper it is written on but the EFL may put a much higher value on it. Well to me preston clearly in more trouble than derby are even through still in admin. Maybe kircher saw something I thought better off it and throught derby in trouble money wise and fans base make up the money I about to spend in buying great derby county football club. Miggins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 What an earth are Preston doing putting a statement like that out ! SaffyRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 7 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said: Given the obvious disdain Kirchner has for Morris, I'd say a quick deal would be unlikely. CK hinted at changing prices on PP back in Dec/Jan & no guarantees Morris wouldn't try to extract a few more quid. I think it makes more sense the council dealing with Morris & removing him from DCFC entirely asap. See no reason why a deal couldnt be struck quickly given they are acting as a benign trustee (and not a rich prospective owner) so making negotiations with Morris less adversarial. Once done, my preference would be for the council to keep ownership of PP to prevent this debacle happening again. They can charge rent/share of gate receipts so it becomes a revenue generator for the public purse but allow CK to utilise PP for other revenue generating events. That arrangement would also lower CK's capital outlay so enabling him to focus funds on rebuilding club infrastructure/playing side...win win. MM did a deal quickly with Gibbo when he had to. No love lost there. but now the council has suggested they could backstop, might take the pressure off MM to do a deal with CK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: Yea, that’s about right ? Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Well - is he wight; or is he wong? (Danny Dyer esq) MackworthRamIsGod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: A personal opinion Steve, which I share with you. Mr. Ridsdale, who did to Leeds what Morris has done to Derby and who was later struck off and disqualified from being a company director for seven years for transferring £347,000 into his personal bank account instead of his company, which had gone into liquidation with debts of £478,698 - most of which was owed to HMRC. By this time he was chairman of Preston. In order to continue in this role he gave up his directorship but was employed as an advisor to the owner.While the Insolvency Service expressed concern at his continuing presence at Preston, legally he had cocked a snook at them and is still involved there today and represents the club at the EFL, where despite his track record he is regarded as a fit and proper person. In Preston's spat with Kirchner there will be no independent witnesses to what happened. So we'll never know for sure. But I think a reasonable person is entitled to distrust Ridsdale, given his past. So there you have it. For me, Preston's statement today is not worth the paper it is written on but the EFL may put a much higher value on it. Ridsdale surely has to stand aside on this issue from EFL side, he has a clear conflict of interest gven Kirchner's spat with Preston. LeedsCityRam, BramcoteRam84, Steve How Hard? and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 6 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: If CK wants the Club will he pay enough so we don't get -15 points? He will only pay what he thinks it's worth, and with no assets to buy all he is doing is buying out the debt. Ram-Alf, FlyBritishMidland and Carnero 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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