PistoldPete Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, The Big One said: Oh god - Sky Sports are bringing out the countdown clock for our demise. Thats a low blow. I assume you are joking? REDCAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, The Big One said: Oh god - Sky Sports are bringing out the countdown clock for our demise. Thats a low blow. If true, it's probablyby popular request, not least the Bury and Bolton fans who regularly complain that it was done to them. The difference here is that it's only a deadline for Kirchner's exclusivity at this stage, so it seems a bit disrespectful of Sky, but not surprising. RadioactiveWaste and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loslobos Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Tamworthram said: Absolutely right. The red flag threshold will be far far below £20m The flags would be based on how unusual the payment was compared to normal transactions. If a transaction was more than a certain amount outside standard deviation compared with transactions in the past 6 months/ year etc. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Surely liquidation is very unlikely at this stage and any thoughts on ‘our demise’ need to be kept in the back of peoples heads for now. Its gonna be a stressful day for everyone, once again please consider what you post and it’s impact on everyone else! Gladram, Miggins, Carnero and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, cjdlog said: The flags would be based on how unusual the payment was compared to normal transactions. If a transaction was more than a certain amount outside standard deviation compared with transactions in the past 6 months/ year etc. actually, whilst there must be some ridiculously low threshold (I don’t think a one off transfer of funds of a couple of hundred pounds is likely to trigger serious AML checks), I believe you are correct. Loslobos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, eccles the ram said: The billions of £s paid for Chelsea didn't take this long to go through did it? If I had £1 for everybody who posted this exact comment in this thread, I'd have bought the club myself ? I know nuffin, Mihangel, GB SPORTS and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, admira said: The important thing for me right now is we are not hearing anymore scary deadlines from the EFL like 'get this done by x date or we are kicking you out of the league'.... yet. This. I think the EFL are as worried by CKs potential future funding problems as his current funding problems. Their statement seemed to suggest he was gone. But they are well aware that 'football people' with money are waiting to be chosen instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams_man Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Scott129 said: If I had £1 for everybody who posted this exact comment in this thread, I'd have bought the club myself ? I don’t get why people compare our takeover or admin to anyone else’s. It’s been said enough times that this is the most complex that has happened in the football world. David Graham Brown and FlyBritishMidland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loslobos Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: actually, whilst there must be some ridiculously low threshold (I don’t think a one off transfer of funds of a couple of hundred pounds is likely to trigger serious AML checks), I believe you are correct. Unless they were flagged as a certain type of account. Yeah you're right, there would be a lower end threshold that the system would ignore even if it hit a flag. They also have scoring systems so one flag of a certain type might not be enough to trigger a case, but 2 or 3 may. There are countless rules that can be put in place. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottmRAM Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, cjdlog said: The flags would be based on how unusual the payment was compared to normal transactions. If a transaction was more than a certain amount outside standard deviation compared with transactions in the past 6 months/ year etc. Twenty years ago, I bought a car for £12k. The same day, I filled it with petrol. I also bought something online c.£20. The bank called to ask if I had bought the petrol and the online purchase "as these are commonly bought if someone had found/stolen a card. They made no mention of the £12K. After that, I have always assumed the banks flags are a bag of dogs testicles. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loslobos Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, NottmRAM said: Twenty years ago, I bought a car for £12k. The same day, I filled it with petrol. I also bought something online c.£20. The bank called to ask if I had bought the petrol and the online purchase "as these are commonly bought if someone had found/stolen a card. They made no mention of the £12K. After that, I have always assumed the banks flags are a bag of dogs testicles. Old systems were very basic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, NottmRAM said: Twenty years ago, I bought a car for £12k. The same day, I filled it with petrol. I also bought something online c.£20. The bank called to ask if I had bought the petrol and the online purchase "as these are commonly bought if someone had found/stolen a card. They made no mention of the £12K. After that, I have always assumed the banks flags are a bag of dogs testicles. So why is it taking CK so long to get through them. I am still very surprised that his chosen experienced people wouldn't warn him of this happening and to be prepared. Miggins and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottmRAM Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: So why is it taking CK so long to get through them. I am still very surprised that his chosen experienced people wouldn't warn him of this happening and to be prepared. Yep, and why wouldn't you speak with the bank beforehand to get the "paperwork" done to minimize any delay? RoyMac5 and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Crewton said: If true, it's probablyby popular request, not least the Bury and Bolton fans who regularly complain that it was done to them. The difference here is that it's only a deadline for Kirchner's exclusivity at this stage, so it seems a bit disrespectful of Sky, but not surprising. Kirchner has already lost his exclusivity hasn't he? Isn't that what the admin statement last night says they are talking to other parties? BBC and Sky Sports seem to think Kirchner has lost his exclusivity already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, NottmRAM said: Twenty years ago, I bought a car for £12k. The same day, I filled it with petrol. I also bought something online c.£20. The bank called to ask if I had bought the petrol and the online purchase "as these are commonly bought if someone had found/stolen a card. They made no mention of the £12K. After that, I have always assumed the banks flags are a bag of dogs testicles. Wow I also had that a few years back, I travelled to Crewe to pick up a car £900, I drew the money out over 3 days in Sinfin, Paid for the train on my card, Paid for the car, Went to fill up and bought a bite to eat in Crewe on my card, Following day I go to get some money out and the request is denied, I ring the bank and they said there was some suspicious activity...all good when I explained the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Unless of course his money is actually fishy or not really there at all. I wanted to believe in cK. I got cK underpants on and everything. Looks like it might have to be a little cry with a Lonsdale sports sock later. David Graham Brown and Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Kirchner has already lost his exclusivity hasn't he? Isn't that what the admin statement last night says they are talking to other parties? BBC and Sky Sports seem to think Kirchner has lost his exclusivity already. No 5pm I believe, Back up is others have been spoken too, If money not cleared others can offer/negotiate a price, 5pm is deadline for money to clear ?♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Kirchner has already lost his exclusivity hasn't he? Isn't that what the admin statement last night says they are talking to other parties? BBC and Sky Sports seem to think Kirchner has lost his exclusivity already. In the sense that the Admins are now engaging with other parties, then yes he has. But if CK shows 'acceptable' evidence of his ability to complete by 5pm today then - subject to EFL approval - the Club is his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Woodley Ram said: Not heard that one and if true (which would suprise me) then that is the bank not Q and should be very easy to resolve Isn't that what Nixon has said? Or have I misunderstood (always possible given the chaos around). Certainly from my limited experience of these things it's the receiving institution that would be holding things up.. it isn't Kirchner bank holding things up is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: This. I think the EFL are as worried by CKs potential future funding problems as his current funding problems. Their statement seemed to suggest he was gone. But they are well aware that 'football people' with money are waiting to be chosen instead. "support the club as appropriate" - more transfer embargoes, points deductions, remove golden ticket and general bad press. Take your pick RadioactiveWaste, David Graham Brown and jono 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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