Ram-Alf Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: So would the council get the revenue from pop concerts, boxing fights etc? Not sure how that would fit in with Ashley’s plans of it becoming the Sports Direct stadium. Interesting though… Derby City Council own the stadium, They lease the ground for football matches, So at a guess they'd also own the rights to hold other events, Then again all depends on who and what is in a contract. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, EraniosSocks said: It would make paying the council tax a bit easier knowing it’s going towards pride park. Oh and to also tell Gumps in the area that they are helping save our club ?? Oh yes,the council tax payers would welcome that, seeing their council tax rise going to Pride Park at the same time as seeing subsidies for bus companies being cut so fares rise,library hours shortening, care homes closing, you know all the essential services but never mind we must keep the ground open,a ground the vast majority of tax payers never visit or have any inclination to visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Curtains said: Not in this case. It’s a community asset Losing a football club would be devastating for the city on a par with losing Rolls Royce I’m not questioning the idea but I do have doubts about Derby City Council’s business acumen and it’s ability to run the ground and generate a profit for the Derby rate payer. Just look at the Assembly Rooms !!! atherstoneram, Abu Derby and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: See my thread, yes ? Sorry pal never saw Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Elwood P Dowd said: I’m not questioning the idea but I do have doubts about Derby City Council’s business acumen and it’s ability to run the ground and generate a profit for the Derby rate payer. Just look at the Assembly Rooms !!! The council said they couldn't afford to rebuild that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said: What if council buy the stadium but the bidders don’t follow through and we end up being liquidated. The council have wasted their cash unless they can find other sources of income from it flatten it and build something more practical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: If nothing else it might push potential buyers in to action because I am sure they would all want to own the ground…Ashley especially ? MA leases the ground for 5 years with an option to buy at market value once lease has expired, There's many ways of securing a deal if both parties are in agreement Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Everyone wants the stadium and the club is just a by product with no or very low intrinsic value in its own right Elwood P Dowd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Oh yes,the council tax payers would welcome that, seeing their council tax rise going to Pride Park at the same time as seeing subsidies for bus companies being cut so fares rise,library hours shortening, care homes closing, you know all the essential services but never mind we must keep the ground open,a ground the vast majority of tax payers never visit or have any inclination to visit. But they don't then need to rebuild the assembly rooms for concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said: Everyone wants the stadium and the club is just a by product with no or very low intrinsic value in its own right Whey hold your horses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Wignall12 said: But they don't then need to rebuild the assembly rooms for concerts. Correct,so they don't need to buy PP for concerts and the like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: It all depends on how you define biggest companies? I very much doubt that the club is considered one of the biggest companies in Derbyshire, a big fan base yes but company no. In terms of revenue then yes Derby County is one of the biggest companies in Derbyshire. Obviously it comes nowhere near the likes of rolls royce, but there are hundreds of businesses in Derbyshire and Derby County is well up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, GenBr said: In terms of revenue then yes Derby County is one of the biggest companies in Derbyshire. Obviously it comes nowhere near the likes of rolls royce, but there are hundreds of businesses in Derbyshire and Derby County is well up there. It may well be in terms of revenue but most of that revenue goes into the club not the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Oh yes,the council tax payers would welcome that, seeing their council tax rise going to Pride Park at the same time as seeing subsidies for bus companies being cut so fares rise,library hours shortening, care homes closing, you know all the essential services but never mind we must keep the ground open,a ground the vast majority of tax payers never visit or have any inclination to visit. You're not a Derby City council tax payer, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said: I’m not questioning the idea but I do have doubts about Derby City Council’s business acumen and it’s ability to run the ground and generate a profit for the Derby rate payer. Just look at the Assembly Rooms !!! There may be no alternative so I wouldn’t down grade what a good gesture it would be to save DCFC . The assembly rooms plant room caught fire and devastated the building as an ongoing concern . It would have cost more to repair than renew . I believe there were mistakes with insurance issues allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I can see 2 key stumbling blocks to the stadium being owned by the council. If the PB doesn't want to rent from Mel then why would they want to rent from Mel? If the council are being offered generous terms by Mel then why not offer them to a PB? If the council want a revenue-sharing arrangement to make this financially viable surely that's going to eat into any viability of profitability for the club and owner? The second, is where they find the money. Even if they're paying it back over time that's going to be a decent chunk from Derby city council's budget. It might be they figure the loss of derby county would be such a financial hit to revenue they need to do it but I could see the outlay being an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: It may well be in terms of revenue but most of that revenue goes into the club not the city. Agree but it must help a lot of small businesses. Take the Brunswick for example. I wonder what % of their weekly revenue is made on match days? 50,60….70% even? Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: It may well be in terms of revenue but most of that revenue goes into the club not the city. The club would lease the Stadium at initially from the Council with a good rent deal . Then when the club becomes more of a going concern they buy it back . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Curtains said: The club would lease the Stadium at initially from the Council with a good rent deal . Then when the club becomes more of a going concern they buy it back . In 3 year’s time when we are back in the prem ? Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Council buying the stadium and leasing it back with a purchase options is a great idea. We've got some weird ducking 'supporters' on here, determined to find a problem with every solution ? Black ('n' White) Sheep, Zag zig, FlyBritishMidland and 23 others 6 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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