Day Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: there are also very few duties owed club to club. The exceptions include duty for one club not to disparage the other. And the duty of utmost good faith one to the other which you have highlighted dAvid . Which as you say is expressly only for the Efl to bring action. and as for duty not to disparage.. which club has been disparaging who , Mr Gibson? This is because unlike the Premier League, the regulations are not lateral, they are between club and league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, hiltonram said: David, I am going to write to my MP again, do you have any bullet points I should put to them besides the one you have pointed out above? I think it's time for the MP's to put the pressure on because the EFL have ignored their requests first time around. Regulations 3.5 and 4.4 need highlighting. You can also question how impartial are the EFL, given the threat of legal action from Boro, are they allowing or even encouraging Boro to go for us instead to protect themselves. It's in the Championship clubs best interests that Boro target us rather than the EFL, as any compensation would come from the TV/media deals as that's their only revenue streams. This then swings back round to regulation 3.5 and 4.4 where it should not even be possible for Boro to go directly for us. The why they are is covered above. We'll be back in 81, Derby4Me and r_wilcockson 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8sey Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, mozza said: I gave one of mine a 'lovebite', she farted and flew out the window.. You win the Internet today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ossieram said: What do you joke about? Interesting question. I wonder about your motivation for asking and whether you are inferring that any humour will always involve offending someone. If so, I do not agree with that. And, my original post was not claiming to be "holier than thou" or anything like that. I just think there are limits to what people should say because of the impact that they have on others. Do you not agree? Freedom of speech does not mean "free to say anything". With freedoms, comes responsibility. With being part of a society means caring about others in that society. Heck, none of that is very funny, eh? in addition, I apologise for not answering your question directly. EDIT: in order to draw a parallel and to quote you joke. Aswell as believing humour should strive to be non-offensive, I am vegetarian. That doesn't mean that I do not eat. It just means that I eat food that is better for me - and for the planet (cue to start another argument, no doubt). From Max and Paddy: Paddy: "I could not be one of those vegetarians" Max: "Nah, man cannot live on chips alone". ==== Finally, apologies to all for going off topic Edited February 9, 2022 by IslandExile Mihangel and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Can I direct some of this thread to the "The slow death of comedy and humour" thread? IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Bobby said: When you are taken over if you sign your current squad on their current contracts won’t you end up in the same position again? Surely any new contracts will have to be given that are sustainable, the ones the likes that Lawrence are on you obviously couldn’t afford, what makes you think these players will take a pay cut? No, because the current wage bill is more than sustainable A major problem in the past was having a wage bill greater than 100% of club revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 This is what we're up against. Reporter for TalkSport and Sky Sports. I mean, it's just total and utter poo. jono, Ram@Lincoln, Ewetube and 9 others 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Bobby said: But aren’t you still losing 1 million a month, surely (and it’s not just Derby) out goings have to be less than incomings.? This is where the whole “allowed to lose £39million over three years “ falls down, teams actually work to that, Why? Surely they should be working at at least breaking even. It only takes a minor blip to screw it up and put teams over. wasn’t it Risdale who included qualifying for the champions league every year in Leeds Budget? It has taken QPR 7 years to get anywhere near sustainability and we are still losing money each month, sooner or later players and more importantly agents are going to have to come to terms with receiving less money or half the league will end up in the position you are currently at. Losing over £1m a month when you exclude almost 66% of the club's income (which comes in during the summer): Season Tickets = £6m League Distributions = £8m Sponsorship = £5m Average of over £1.5m a month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, David said: This is what we're up against. Reporter for TalkSport and Sky Sports. I mean, it's just total and utter poo. Other clubs have been relegated because they don't have the fight and/or spirit to dare and do the impossible to survive. Ewetube, Kathcairns, r_wilcockson and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, roboto said: Other clubs have been relegated because they don't have the fight and/or spirit to dare and do the impossible to survive. Other clubs have had to remain in the Championship and immediately lose out on over one hundred millions of pounds in prize money and parachute payments because 75% of promoted teams (or whatever the figure was) have cheated in order to do achieve it. Following through with that line of logic, the result of one particular club (ie Derby) being cheated out of those winnings lead to a spiraling list of events which ultimately saw them end up in Administration. It's nothing to do with our mismanagement, it's all because someone else cheated. As such that club should be compensated for that £100m+ and given their rightful place in the Premier League. Edited February 9, 2022 by Coconut's Beard r_wilcockson and Indy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, David said: This is what we're up against. Reporter for TalkSport and Sky Sports. I mean, it's just total and utter poo. Someone who does twitter please put him right. Such ignorance. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Interesting question. I wonder about your motivation for asking and whether you are inferring that any humour will always involve offending someone. If so, I do not agree with that. And, my original post was not claiming to be "holier than thou" or anything like that. I just think there are limits to what people should say because of the impact that they have on others. Do you not agree? Freedom of speech does not mean "free to say anything". With freedoms, comes responsibility. With being part of a society means caring about others in that society. Heck, none of that is very funny, eh? in addition, I apologise for not answering your question directly. EDIT: in order to draw a parallel and to quote you joke. Aswell as believing humour should strive to be non-offensive, I am vegetarian. That doesn't mean that I do not eat. It just means that I eat food that is better for me - and for the planet (cue to start another argument, no doubt). From Max and Paddy: Paddy: "I could not be one of those vegetarians" Max: "Nah, man cannot live on chips alone". ==== Finally, apologies to all for going off topic Sorry I asked ? IslandExile and i-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addingham Ram Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, David said: This is what we're up against. Reporter for TalkSport and Sky Sports. I mean, it's just total and utter poo. Exactly which clubs have been relegated by the EFL? Plenty of clubs have been fined and / or docked points as a punishment, but who has actually been relegated? Is this really what the general public think? It wouldn't surprise me if, whether we survive this season or not, the EFL (if they continue to exist after the eventual end if this whole fiasco) will try and increase the points deduction for breaches of P&S regulations, thereby effectively relegating any team that breaks the rules. Perhaps that is what this is all about. The EFL believe that any club breaking P&S rules should be relegated. If we had 'bought into that', and we're still say 10 to 15 points from safety, the EFL would have approached this whole sorry saga in a different way. We might not have had to sell off the players, and we might even have had a new owner. Who knows? Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Someone who does twitter please put him right. Such ignorance. Already done IslandExile, Gisby, r_wilcockson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Why did they (EFL) not relegate us then? Presumably punishment did not fit the crime… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, David said: This is what we're up against. Reporter for TalkSport and Sky Sports. I mean, it's just total and utter poo. I think you've instigated a bit of a pile-on ? #BeKind LauraH and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Scott129 said: I think you've instigated a bit of a pile-on ? #BeKind Did that himself. roboto, r_wilcockson, LauraH and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Someone who does twitter please put him right. Such ignorance. You can't put right inbred ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Interesting question. I wonder about your motivation for asking and whether you are inferring that any humour will always involve offending someone. If so, I do not agree with that. And, my original post was not claiming to be "holier than thou" or anything like that. I just think there are limits to what people should say because of the impact that they have on others. Do you not agree? Freedom of speech does not mean "free to say anything". With freedoms, comes responsibility. With being part of a society means caring about others in that society. Heck, none of that is very funny, eh? in addition, I apologise for not answering your question directly. EDIT: in order to draw a parallel and to quote you joke. Aswell as believing humour should strive to be non-offensive, I am vegetarian. That doesn't mean that I do not eat. It just means that I eat food that is better for me - and for the planet (cue to start another argument, no doubt). From Max and Paddy: Paddy: "I could not be one of those vegetarians" Max: "Nah, man cannot live on chips alone". ==== Finally, apologies to all for going off topic I was vegetarian in January….and as this insinuates all my culinary repertoire consists of is chips, I am retrospectively offended. Further to this, under new guidance issued by the EFL, I can be simultaneously vegetarian and omnivorous as no one has the right to tell me what I am/am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, roboto said: Other clubs have been relegated because they don't have the fight and/or spirit to dare and do the impossible to survive. Not all even get relegated. Just looking at the Championship... P&SBirmingham - deducted 9 points, 17th Sheff Weds - deducted 6 points, 24th Derby - deducted 9 points (plus 12 for admin), currently 23rdReading - deducted 6 points, currently 21st AdministrationPalace - deducted 10 points, 21st Portsmouth - deducted 10 points, 22nd Wigan - deducted 12 points, 23rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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