Turk Thrust Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, StrawHillRam said: Usernames can be misleading I was going to go for thepenismighty Yes, I am not Turkish and my thrusting days are few and far between, sadly ? strawhillram and GenBr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 And I have never answered a question correctly on University Challenge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Please take this as a compliment. I couldn't live with you...double Bah Humbug Have you thought perhaps that is my end game Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlate Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 To be fair to Matt Slater (no relation) - he's only ever reported facts. He is one of the more serious and seasoned journalists at The Athletic and certainly doesn't have an agenda. He was threatened with legal action by Morris, I believe. He annoys me by stating facts and reporting the truth about our club, which isn't a tasty medicine to swallow. Also, anyone paying full price for The Athletic is daft. You can get it for free with EE, they also often do a £1 a month deal. When anyone signs up to these, full price changes are always clearly indicated, best to just pay for the deal and then cancel the renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: And I have never answered a question correctly on University Challenge... And i do mind.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, I DONT MIND said: And i do mind.? I do know something, just don't know what........ GB SPORTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, CBRammette said: yes but I went to school in rural east anglia where you are challenged by classmates being able to count to 12 on fingers for a start. I am not in a bad mood -I am very happy its first day of advent calendars, nearly Christmas and girlie stuff like the christmas cushions, crockery, tiny fairy lights and decorations can start to be scattered around the house ???????⛄️⛄️⛄️ Now you’ve started something, radio Derby are playing slade Christmas song ? CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TheSlate said: To be fair to Matt Slater (no relation) - he's only ever reported facts. He is one of the more serious and seasoned journalists at The Athletic and certainly doesn't have an agenda. He was threatened with legal action by Morris, I believe. He annoys me by stating facts and reporting the truth about our club, which isn't a tasty medicine to swallow. Also, anyone paying full price for The Athletic is daft. You can get it for free with EE, they also often do a £1 a month deal. When anyone signs up to these, full price changes are always clearly indicated, best to just pay for the deal and then cancel the renewal. Until we are given facts by the Administration team then it is ALL supposition. He might have had a bit of gossip that the deal is difficult, and run with that theme. It might be if that ‘gossip’ exists it was released as a bargaining aide, ie no one can afford us take the offer or it’s over…etc. Edited December 1, 2021 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Maharan said: Whilst I do think there may be a deal to be done, it's interesting that he says that nearly everyone he speaks to says HMRC won't budge on the amount, and a single expert thinks they may accept a significant discount. I dunno, I think it's still very worrying. Time is not our friend either, and Xmas will inevitably slow things down. Worrying but surely HMRC would not risk getting next to nothing if the club is liquidated. Can’t imagine there isn’t a deal somewhere to be done. Fingers crossed anyway jimtastic56 and I know nuffin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Now you’ve started something, radio Derby are playing slade Christmas song ? Annie Barker did his porridge there...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Until we are given facts by the Administration team then it is ALL supposition. He might have had a bit of gossip that the dealis difficult and run with that theme. It might be if that ‘gossip’ exists it was released as a bargaining aide, ie no one can afford us take the offer or it’s over… We owe 30 Million to the Tax man and 5 Million to AC photography ! This is startling from the Athletic “ They also have to give Derby’s fans something to cling onto. In the first eight weeks of Quantuma’s interregnum, Derby’s income was about £800,000 in tickets, Rams TV subscriptions and club merchandise, plus a £1.25 million loan from MSD UK Holdings Limited, the UK branch of the American private equity firm that lent Morris £20 million. But even that was not enough to cover the club’s wage bill, let alone its total costs. Derby lost another £1.2 million between September 22 and November 11. That deeply alarming number was just one of hundreds like it in the statement of proposals Quantuma filed at Companies House last week — 165 pages of unremitting gloom. The millions owed to MSD, the almost £30 million owed to the taxman, the nearly £10 million owed to other clubs, the almost £5 million owed to a gang of unsecured creditors from AC Photography in Derby to Zbaszynek Akademia in Poland. Derby’s fans, to their enormous credit, have already raised the money to make sure the St John’s Ambulance service will be getting all of the £8,304 it is owed but the rest of them can look forward to 25 per cent of what they are owed. At best.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Curtains said: We owe 30 Million to the Tax man and 5 Million to AC photography ! This is startling from the Athletic “ They also have to give Derby’s fans something to cling onto. In the first eight weeks of Quantuma’s interregnum, Derby’s income was about £800,000 in tickets, Rams TV subscriptions and club merchandise, plus a £1.25 million loan from MSD UK Holdings Limited, the UK branch of the American private equity firm that lent Morris £20 million. But even that was not enough to cover the club’s wage bill, let alone its total costs. Derby lost another £1.2 million between September 22 and November 11. That deeply alarming number was just one of hundreds like it in the statement of proposals Quantuma filed at Companies House last week — 165 pages of unremitting gloom. The millions owed to MSD, the almost £30 million owed to the taxman, the nearly £10 million owed to other clubs, the almost £5 million owed to a gang of unsecured creditors from AC Photography in Derby to Zbaszynek Akademia in Poland. Derby’s fans, to their enormous credit, have already raised the money to make sure the St John’s Ambulance service will be getting all of the £8,304 it is owed but the rest of them can look forward to 25 per cent of what they are owed. At best.” What is your point? That financial information hasn’t just been released. When it came out you could do the supposing, but still it is just that. Edited December 1, 2021 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Curtains said: and 5 Million to AC photography ! that's not what it says, read it again. Indy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Carnero said: that's not what it says, read it again. No it’s an amalgamation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I think it funny that Curtains thinks we owe AC Photography £5m. Perhaps they were extorting Mel because they had some compromising pictures. RadioactiveWaste and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I would never subscribe and pay for any content on the web. You never need to look very far for the same content being written behind a paywall. These kind of websites have had their day and will have to change their business model very soon otherwise they’ll sink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, i-Ram said: I think it funny that Curtains thinks we owe AC Photography £5m. Perhaps they were extorting Mel because they had some compromising pictures. I like it. Perhaps we should speculate on what those photos were? I think they probably show Mel Morris wearing crocs with dirty grey socks with holes in the toes. i-Ram and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, Curtains said: We owe 30 Million to the Tax man and 5 Million to AC photography ! This is startling from the Athletic “ They also have to give Derby’s fans something to cling onto. In the first eight weeks of Quantuma’s interregnum, Derby’s income was about £800,000 in tickets, Rams TV subscriptions and club merchandise, plus a £1.25 million loan from MSD UK Holdings Limited, the UK branch of the American private equity firm that lent Morris £20 million. But even that was not enough to cover the club’s wage bill, let alone its total costs. Derby lost another £1.2 million between September 22 and November 11. That deeply alarming number was just one of hundreds like it in the statement of proposals Quantuma filed at Companies House last week — 165 pages of unremitting gloom. The millions owed to MSD, the almost £30 million owed to the taxman, the nearly £10 million owed to other clubs, the almost £5 million owed to a gang of unsecured creditors from AC Photography in Derby to Zbaszynek Akademia in Poland. Derby’s fans, to their enormous credit, have already raised the money to make sure the St John’s Ambulance service will be getting all of the £8,304 it is owed but the rest of them can look forward to 25 per cent of what they are owed. At best.” As others have said this is baalocks. It’s not a loss … it’s cash flow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) Serious point is if CK pulls out we are ducked IMO . I think the guy is sincere and the administrators need to realise this and go with him and forget the others . Forget due process and just tell him it’s his if he wants it at the right price. Edited December 1, 2021 by Curtains Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: As others have said this is baalocks. It’s not a loss … it’s cash flow . No, over the 8 week period, it is a loss. Insufficient money has been obtained from trading activities to cover day-to-day operating expenses. Short term debt has been secured to keep us afloat. Not surprising, but it is a loss. Edited December 1, 2021 by i-Ram Curtains and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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