kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: If you don't know what is actually happening with the club and the EFL all you can do is surmise - how far do you want them to go on no real evidence? We've seen on the forum just how wild some ideas about what's happening can be! Who do they help? They need to keep asking the relevant questions though to both parties...where are we at,are there going to be charges,the timescales of the decision itself etc. That's the sort of pressure that needs to kept up. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Do you think they'd be clever enough to think of that?! I seem to remember whenever we have these type of threads, there was one on Twitter too. The local journos say they keep asking... I don’t remember them saying we keep asking, all I ever see is “what do you want us to do” type responses from Dawes and the telegraph bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: They need to keep asking the relevant questions though to both parties...where are we at,are there going to be charges,the timescales of the decision itself etc. That's the sort of pressure that needs to kept up. And you want them to write down a piece every time they do that? ? Seriously? kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, TexasRam said: I don’t remember them saying we keep asking, all I ever see is “what do you want us to do” type responses from Dawes and the telegraph bloke I've heard them say it on air numerous times. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, TexasRam said: I don’t remember them saying we keep asking, all I ever see is “what do you want us to do” type responses from Dawes and the telegraph bloke Article below: "DerbyshireLive approached the club for a comment." Shall we tweet Steve and ask him to cut and paste that line a bit more, just so we fans know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Article below: "DerbyshireLive approached the club for a comment." Shall we tweet Steve and ask him to cut and paste that line a bit more, just so we fans know? Yes he should be asking everyday isn’t that his job? Pretty poor article as usual, approached the club for comment? What did they say? Edited September 3, 2021 by TexasRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Crewton said: I've heard them say it on air numerous times. Fair enough, I haven’t heard them say it recently but good on them if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG400 Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 55 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Perhaps you have. Do you have a copy of Championship Manager too? ? No , for the record currently playing Panzer Corp 2, so if you want any advice on how to deal with dug in infantry supported by artillery I am your man Mostyn6 and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, JG400 said: No , for the record currently playing Panzer Corp 2, so if you want any advice on how to deal with dug in infantry supported by artillery I am your man Be handy for dodging bullets then?! ? DavesaRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 If they did get any comment from the club then the article would only be made totally inaccessible with a number of pages of impenetrable clickbait anyway Wolfie20 and JG400 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: And you want them to write down a piece every time they do that? ? Seriously? Is that what I said Roy? Edited September 3, 2021 by kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 The problem is that the DT and RD rely on having good relations with the club to maintain the flow of information. If they ever released any controversial information, they risk being banned from the ground, ignored by the club and not included in the standard press briefings. It's really not the role of the local football correspondents to do the type of phone intercept and searching through bins journalism which would be needed to get anything juicy in this situation. If stuff like that is going to happen, it will be the national press. It's frustrating, but it's not the fault of Steve Nicholson, Ed Dawes or Chris Coles. Ryan Conway probably has a bit more leeway, but even he can't destroy his access to the club. Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: The problem is that the DT and RD rely on having good relations with the club to maintain the flow of information. If they ever released any controversial information, they risk being banned from the ground, ignored by the club and not included in the standard press briefings. It's really not the role of the local football correspondents to do the type of phone intercept and searching through bins journalism which would be needed to get anything juicy in this situation. If stuff like that is going to happen, it will be the national press. It's frustrating, but it's not the fault of Steve Nicholson, Ed Dawes or Chris Coles. Ryan Conway probably has a bit more leeway, but even he can't destroy his access to the club. Doesn't seem much evidence of any special relationship or any relationship fullstop tbh which would be in jeopardy which I guess is the whole point of this thread. i-Ram and kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: The problem is that the DT and RD rely on having good relations with the club to maintain the flow of information. If they ever released any controversial information, they risk being banned from the ground, ignored by the club and not included in the standard press briefings. It's really not the role of the local football correspondents to do the type of phone intercept and searching through bins journalism which would be needed to get anything juicy in this situation. If stuff like that is going to happen, it will be the national press. It's frustrating, but it's not the fault of Steve Nicholson, Ed Dawes or Chris Coles. Ryan Conway probably has a bit more leeway, but even he can't destroy his access to the club. Indeed and I’d add there are many things local journalists like Steve Nicholson know but aren’t allowed/ won’t report for the reasons you mention. The Telegraph has been absolutely decimated in recent years, add in the club going it alone with their own comms and the reasons for the current situation become obvious. These journalists still have a lot of connections at the club and will hear lots of things on the quiet, the idea they know absolutely nothing is patently false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 hours ago, TexasRam said: Yes he should be asking everyday isn’t that his job? Pretty poor article as usual, approached the club for comment? What did they say? No comment? Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, angieram said: No comment? It didn’t say they refused to comment or gave a no comment response. However I could of and I missed it in between the adverts, headlines of a Husband leaving his wife after spotting this in this picture, or the other clickbait articles splitting up the report (which was mainly regurgitated news from previous weeks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Doesn't seem much evidence of any special relationship or any relationship fullstop tbh which would be in jeopardy which I guess is the whole point of this thread. They still need access to the club for matchday broadcasting, player/manager interviews and so on. If the club were to ban say Dawes or Nicholson from the ground, or refuse to let them attend pre-match press briefings, then they literally cannot do the job they're being paid to do. Like it or not, they need to maintain a reasonable working relationship with the club. It's a completely different case for people like Percy or Nixon who are paid by national newspapers, and only rely on having a few contacts at clubs. If their relationship with the club breaks down, they lose very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, TexasRam said: It didn’t say they refused to comment or gave a no comment response. However I could of and I missed it in between the adverts, headlines of a Husband leaving his wife after spotting this in this picture, or the other clickbait articles splitting up the report (which was mainly regurgitated news from previous weeks) What did the husband spot in the picture, I really need to know and I really need to know now Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 The idea of losing the flow of information from the club if they speak out against the club in anyway would be a real concern if there was any flow of information at all. As it stands, there is actually virtually nothing to lose. jimtastic56 and vonwright 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Anyone know any ex-NoTW journos who know how to hack a phone? Probably the only way we're going to get any news. Derby4Me, jimtastic56 and Mostyn6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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