Wignall12 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: Absolutely a goal. Appalling decision decided by the reaction of the guy on the touchline who could not possibly see the line of the goalkeeper .....and a week late !! ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 What I do think should happen in these situations (but never will) is that the referee should be expected to explain why one was OK and one wasn't. The lack of explanation is what fuels the frustration. I doubt we'd necessarily always agree with them, but it would be nice to hear their side of things now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Pefectfly good goal nrothing wrong joke of linesman and joke of the ref that should have out ruled linesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: If his was disallowed the the Forest goal should be too. The player in an offside position for Forests goal was pulling the last defender away from the goal scorer and the keeper had one eye on him. Our second goal was pure class. There is a conspiracy going on here or the Greek Bamford threatened to burn the refs house down. Conspiracy yes , I suspect coming from people in high places , but could not possibly say where from or why for fear of a visit from Bond !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Offside offence A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by: interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or Waghorn doesn't touch the ball interfering with an opponent by: preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or He doesn't stop the opposition from playing the ball, and isn't in Samba's line of sight challenging an opponent for the ball or He doesn't challenge an opponent for the ball clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or He doesn't attempt to play the ball (at the very least he tried to avoid it) making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball He doesn't stop an opposition player from attempting to play the ball or gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: He didn't play the ball or interfere with an opponent. rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent there wasn't a rebound/deflection been deliberately saved by any opponent the shot wasn't saved A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent. An opposing player didn't touch the ball In situations where: a player moving from, or standing in, an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball this is an offside offence if it impacts on the ability of the opponent to play or challenge for the ball; if the player moves into the way of an opponent and impedes the opponent's progress (e.g blocks the opponent) the offence should be penalised under Law 12. He isn't in the way of an opponent, nor interferes with the movement of an opposing player. a player in an offside position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence. He didn't attempt to play the ball. an offence is committed against a player in an offside position who is already playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the offside offence is penalised as it has occurred before the foul challenge. He didn't attempt to play the ball, or challenge an opponent for the ball. Verdict: Goal should be awarded to Jozwiak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Will the result of the poll make the EFL overturn it's decision Of course. They have shown themselves as having the utmost integrity and to be scrupulously fair as well as totally impartial. They are shining examples of all that makes this game such a joy to watch. Their conduct and willingness to accept the “not guilty” decision in the ‘case’ of EFL vs DCFC surely confirms this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Wignall12 said: Conspiracy yes , I suspect coming from people in high places , but could not possibly say where from or why for fear of a visit from Bond !! It’s ok Bond won’t come for you unless you are passing information to the Russians and Spector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Offside offence A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by: interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or Waghorn doesn't touch the ball interfering with an opponent by: preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or He doesn't stop the opposition from playing the ball, and isn't in Samba's line of sight challenging an opponent for the ball or He doesn't challenge an opponent for the ball clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or He doesn't attempt to play the ball (at the very least he tried to avoid it) making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball He doesn't stop an opposition player from attempting to play the ball or gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: He didn't play the ball or interfere with an opponent. rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent there wasn't a rebound/deflection been deliberately saved by any opponent the shot wasn't saved A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent. An opposing player didn't touch the ball In situations where: a player moving from, or standing in, an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball this is an offside offence if it impacts on the ability of the opponent to play or challenge for the ball; if the player moves into the way of an opponent and impedes the opponent's progress (e.g blocks the opponent) the offence should be penalised under Law 12. He isn't in the way of an opponent, nor interferes with the movement of an opposing player. a player in an offside position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence. He didn't attempt to play the ball. an offence is committed against a player in an offside position who is already playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the offside offence is penalised as it has occurred before the foul challenge. He didn't attempt to play the ball, or challenge an opponent for the ball. Verdict: Goal should be awarded to Jozwiak. ROBBED ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, Wignall12 said: ROBBED ! But what do you expect from the land of Robin Hood ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: It’s ok Bond won’t come for you unless you are passing information to the Russians and Spector. or stroking a big hairy pussy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, leamram said: Derby goal no...waghorn in an offside position and does enough to distract the keeper (even though he wouldn't of got near it) I'd of been furious if it was the other way round and given. Did you watch the game them cause forest did the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 The Florist goal should have been disallowed for the push on Curtis from the corner. If Waggers hadn’t of jumped the goal would have stood. Little things not going our way but overall a very good performance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 it is a pointless debate because it isn't going to change anything but the issue for me is the inconsistency of the officials. In neither case can the linesmen judge whether the attacker who is offside (and both Waggy and their no.26 were offside), were interfering with the goalkeeper's vision and therefore that the goal should be disallowed. The angle they are looking from makes that a physical impossibility. Therefore their role is to either put the flag up in both cases because players close to the action in both situations were a) offside and b) close to the keeper and let the referee make the decision, or keep the flag down and let play go on. From the TV pictures the referee was in a good position in both cases and should have allowed both goals to stand. In the old days neither would have been allowed. And no to VAR, full stop and forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I was more angry at sky.the commentary is shocking and the analysis at the end.....wow what a male member viv is. All of them missed that for the forest goal the ball came off Yates not that Taylor was off side but there was a forest player offside .iv just cancelled sky sports I just cant deal with it anymore.forrests was a goal and so was ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, Ramslaar said: iv just cancelled sky sports Have you heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldstar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Fuming as he really deserved that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I'll just leave this one here. If this one stands, tonight's definitely does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: Have you heck. Yep I deffo have I'd sooner have ramstv.dont get to watch any other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sparkle Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Now that offside isn’t offside - who knows but it was very harsh based on the goalkeeper seeing the clean strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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