TomTom92 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I think both decisions together mean Derby have been hard done by. But in my drunken state, I didn’t see a hell of a lot wrong with theirs and I didn’t immediately celebrate Jozwiak’s as I saw Waggy. In hindsight Waggy wasn’t interfering which makes it a kicker. But from the linesman’s view I can see why it was given. The biggest shame is that we’ve had to wait to the 7th match to field a decent team. The next 2 matches is what I’d be judging the team on. Harsh maybe but we need 4 points in order for Phil to keep his job. Not a fan that we’ll stay up because Wycombe, Coventry and Barnsley are in the league. We’re better than relegation candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Either they both stand or they are both disallowed. The consistency in this league is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, TomTom92 said: The biggest shame is that we’ve had to wait to the 7th match to field a decent team. You do know that Waghorn and Lawrence have been out injured, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I can see why our goal wasn’t given. Waghorn is clearly the last man. The assistant sees him jump and from his angle can only assume he’s avoiding the ball and so interfering. If you look at the ref’s angle, by the time the shot’s on its way Waghorn will be in the middle of the goal and still moving. The ref doesn’t have freeze frame and will assume interference too. Really tough on us. I cheered that goal because: a) We deserved it b) Jozwiak deserved it Sadly, I can also see why their goal stood. They may well have thought the ball came off Clarke, which would take offside out of the equation. They missed the foul on Davies. The offside player wasn’t in Marshall’s eyeline given how close Taylor was. Still feel flat this morning because had we won, the players would have had a real spring in their step ahead of Tuesday. As it is, the threat of late disappointment will accompany any lead we might get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Unfortunately Waggy jumping up was the key moment for me , yes he's offside and the linesman then thinks he's in the gk line of sight. Look back in time at Jeff Hendricks goal and look were Theo Robinson is and what he does , that goal stood , one of those things , if it had been against us we would have wanted it disallowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 hours ago, bigbadbob said: Why? I think it was then when he shot from outside the box and one of our players was in an offside position and moved out the way. The goal stood. We all went mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 9 hours ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: Guessing 2 of the ‘no’ voters are @Red_Dawn and @eezzeetiger Im not allowed a vote #SecondClassPosters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Red_Dawn said: Im not allowed a vote #SecondClassPosters You’d just obstruct the outcome mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 It’s a goal. Keeper has clear line of sight which ref should call not linesman. If we’re going off the linesman’s call then McKenna is stood offside for Taylor’s goal when the ball clearly hits Yates in the face. McKenna isn’t interfering with play but no way can linesman tell that, it looks the same as Waghorn from his angle. And that’s before we even mention Davies having his shirt ripped off his back. Hughtons justification for the disallowed goal was highly amusing, it would be harsh to allow the goal when an opposing player is stood so far offside - someone needs to inform the offside rule changed about 15 years ago!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leamram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Ramslaar said: Did you watch the game them cause forest did the same Yes, I was talking about the Derby goal which the topic is about, it didn't say also discuss the Forest goal! ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Heres' my take. Could he BE any more offside? Most offside in history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Boycie said: You’d just obstruct the outcome mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I do wish he’d just stopped his run a bit earlier though. He was very much stranded in no mans land, he was just sort of dancing around like ‘oo, I seem to be here all on my own’ like a performer who’s walked on stage too early and isn’t sure what to do next. He gave the officials a decision to make, and he didn’t need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 It was 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, IslandExile said: You do know that Waghorn and Lawrence have been out injured, don't you? Yes and it’s a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 With Hendrick's goal Robinson is in an off-side position but just standing there (like Arter). Whereas Waghorn is running across the area and jumps over the ball. That's why its disallowed I think. There's no way Samba would have saved it so it's a big slice of luck for them. Waghorn needed to be a bit more 'savvy' I think which is easy to say but difficult to do in the middle of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Upon reflection and thinking without a load of beer. The goal didn’t stand nothing can be done about it now. I quite enjoyed our performance and on another day we could have won that. I am more encouraged with the performance rather than refereeing decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Yes and it’s a shame. But you still insist on automatic promotion form against 2 of the best best 6 teams in the division or you want Cocu sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, sage said: But you still insist on automatic promotion form against 2 of the best best 6 teams in the division or you want Cocu sacked. I think injuries or not we shouldn’t have been on 3 points from our opening 6 matches. I’m not a big Cocu fan which is my opinion. Maybe asking for 4 points or bust is wrong/harsh but how many points do you expect against the next 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Anag Ram said: I can see why our goal wasn’t given. Waghorn is clearly the last man. The assistant sees him jump and from his angle can only assume he’s avoiding the ball and so interfering. If you look at the ref’s angle, by the time the shot’s on its way Waghorn will be in the middle of the goal and still moving. The ref doesn’t have freeze frame and will assume interference too. Really tough on us. I cheered that goal because: a) We deserved it b) Jozwiak deserved it Sadly, I can also see why their goal stood. They may well have thought the ball came off Clarke, which would take offside out of the equation. They missed the foul on Davies. The offside player wasn’t in Marshall’s eyeline given how close Taylor was. Still feel flat this morning because had we won, the players would have had a real spring in their step ahead of Tuesday. As it is, the threat of late disappointment will accompany any lead we might get. The push on Curtis was the key reason why theirs should have been disallowed, prevented him from challenging for the ball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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