I am Ram Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I, like most fans really want the manager of the club to do well. With everything Cocu has had thrown at him, to act with such gentlemanly conduct and grace throughout such a turbulent year is a testament to the bloke, i really hope it works for him. That said, Phil ffs stop tinkering, pick a team, let it settle, we need a siege mentality to get through to 10 games and then hopefully missing players will be back. Get something that resembles a spine in the team, especially in the middle of the park, yesterday we was over-run in midfield leaving a new defence exposed . Good luck ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 The only positive I’m holding on to is that it was poor finishing that stopped us scoring 3 or 4... the negative that balances this out is that Marshall stopped it being 8 or 9 for them ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 hours ago, ossieram said: Something has gone wrong since the run of undefeated games towards the end of last season and I haven't got a clue what it is. Has Cocu lost the dressing room? Have the players decided they don't like the way he sets the team up to play? Are the players just not good enough? Rooney was the key. Most games he controlled midfield from what clips/full matches I saw. It's not the same now since his form has dipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcidaho Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Massive hindsight, but also thought at the time it was odd to let Bradley go, given he's the option of an imposing figure in the middle. Might not always be a first choice, but we're in dire need of his ilk right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Knight - Probably the one player that can hold his head high. I feel as though his energy would be much better utilised in the middle of the pitch How many times did he end up being the furthest man back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Jayram said: Yeah I’m pretty sure. The bloke at Reading didn’t even get a pre-season with his players and yet already he has managed to get them to the top of the Championship playing strong direct attractive football that works at this level. Someone like Paul Cook would have our squad storming up this league playing decent football while carefully blooding the young players rather than throwing half the U-23’s in at once and expecting them to be ready (although that is more our useless chairman’s doing). I think you're deluding yourself if you believe that the squad of players we have is capable 'strong, direct' football. Whereas Reading's squad has been built for that for a while. The manager simply has to embrace that, there's nothing to change or develop. We have no strength or pace in the team, no runners, nobody who can physically impose themselves on the opposition. We get bullied every match. We're not going to turn from a team of to a team of and start pushing other teams around, especially with no hold up striker to cause defences a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, jcidaho said: Massive hindsight, but also thought at the time it was odd to let Bradley go, given he's the option of an imposing figure in the middle. Might not always be a first choice, but we're in dire need of his ilk right now. My opinion is BJ was let go for financial purpose,s ... rumoured to be on astronomical wages at Derby plus had a year of his contract left ... but would welcome him back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn1957 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Keogh , Johnson and Martin three important positions in the team and not one really been replaced ,may not have been the most skilful players but could turn it on when we needed it even if it meant just stopping the opposition playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: How many times did he end up being the furthest man back? Too many! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Amazing how history gets re-written with time. It's not that long ago that BJ used to get slated because he wasnt a technical footballer and he was the biggest waste of money ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 44 minutes ago, neil62uk said: My opinion is BJ was let go for financial purpose,s ... rumoured to be on astronomical wages at Derby plus had a year of his contract left ... but would welcome him back ? His contract expired but was then extended probably for FFP purposes rather than wanting to retain his services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: His contract expired but was then extended probably for FFP purposes rather than wanting to retain his services I stand corrected Ref ; Contract ... It's possible his performance yesterday gave me pause for thought THAT WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIM ... it may have been a one off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Johnson leaving wasn't in itself a mistake. He was mostly terrible for us, however he became quite useful in the end because we needed someone in the middle with a bit of bite and battle in them and his opposition for this spot in the team was either Tom Huddlestone or Max Bird. He didn't exactly set the world alight for Blackburn last season either. It's not really about losing Johnson, who was and is pretty limited, it's one of his replacement being crocked and one of them not being quite good enough, leaving us in the same position we were when Johnson was previously elevated to being the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: His contract expired but was then extended probably for FFP purposes rather than wanting to retain his services We did offer him a "proper" extension as well, though, in addition to the one for FFPhttps://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Derby-county-enter-discussions-bradley-3038066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, JfR said: We did offer him a "proper" extension as well, though, in addition to the one for FFPhttps://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Derby-county-enter-discussions-bradley-3038066 Probably as "proper" as the one we offered Martin! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Probably as "proper" as the one we offered Martin! ? Get over it mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: Get over it mate It is relevant to the discussions as to why we are in a mess at the start of the season. Its nothing to do with Martin per se. We've essentially played the start of the season with noone to score in the box, hold the ball and play people in. His time here may have been quite rightly up but he has gone to strengthen opposition when we have noone to play there. Its not a case of holding a candle for Martin but an indication of how things are being run behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, CBRammette said: It is relevant to the discussions as to why we are in a mess at the start of the season. Its nothing to do with Martin per se. We've essentially played the start of the season with noone to score in the box, hold the ball and play people in. His time here may have been quite rightly up but he has gone to strengthen opposition when we have noone to play there. Its not a case of holding a candle for Martin but an indication of how things are being run behind the scenes. Would you have kept BJ then on another contract and same with Martin no matter the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Curtains said: Get over it mate After you Claude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: After you Claude. So how much would you have paid Martin and how long a contract and same with BJ. people have been banging on about getting rid and relying on the Academy for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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