Bris Vegas Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 It’s not often you see a 3-0 score-line and the losing side have actually dominated the game. United have been poor. A one in a 100 wonder goal, a penalty and a goal on the counter. That’s pretty much all they’ve had. United have a brilliant record against bottom sides and a dog awful record against the better sides. Flat track bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: It’s not often you see a 3-0 score-line and the losing side have actually dominated the game. United have been poor. A one in a 100 wonder goal, a penalty and a goal on the counter. That’s pretty much all they’ve had. United have a brilliant record against bottom sides and a dog awful record against the better sides. Flat track bullies. They’ve had some poor results this season, and the big talking point is how poor they’ve been generally, but on top of that, the wins they’ve had have generally been poor performances or by the skin of their teeth too. Starting with Wolves in the first game, which they should’ve lost, but some how won. Beating Copenhagen at home, they should’ve lost that one, but for a penalty save. Loads of games where they should’ve been out of sight but winning with a last minute goal. They’ve scraped together a reasonable amount of points, but they’ve been awful. I don’t think they’ve had one good performance all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 hours ago, TigerTedd said: They’ve had some poor results this season, and the big talking point is how poor they’ve been generally, but on top of that, the wins they’ve had have generally been poor performances or by the skin of their teeth too. Starting with Wolves in the first game, which they should’ve lost, but some how won. Beating Copenhagen at home, they should’ve lost that one, but for a penalty save. Loads of games where they should’ve been out of sight but winning with a last minute goal. They’ve scraped together a reasonable amount of points, but they’ve been awful. I don’t think they’ve had one good performance all season. In the games I've seen them play, I don't understand what they are trying to do. It's like they haven't been coached at all, which is surprising given McClaren is there. They don't dominate the ball, and they don't counter press. They almost are content to play a counterattacking game, but what big team these days plays like that? They just get picked off by anyone with any quality. Interesting also that they have played nine bottom half sides and only four in the top half so far. They lost all four of those with an aggregate score of 11-2. Throw in the 3-0 defeat to Newcastle in the cup too. Five of their next six games are against top half sides - Chelsea, West Ham, Newcastle, Liverpool and Villa. They might get 4 points from the first two but they will lose to the others. TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: In the games I've seen them play, I don't understand what they are trying to do. It's like they haven't been coached at all..... Man U or the Rams? Bris Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 26/11/2023 at 16:52, Gaspode said: Man Ure take the lead against Everton via a better than Rooney-esque overhead from Garnacho - astonishing…. Came off his shin, could have gone anywhere tbh. Rooneys came off his instep so i'd say his was slightly better. Not a bad goal though. I reckon Collo has one of those in him to clinch promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Overhead kicks and long-range goals are spectacular to watch. But they are largely flukes. Concentrate on getting good connection on the ball and hit it towards goal with power. Garnacho’s flew in the opposite top corner but you can’t say he was actually aiming there. It just happened to end up there. Saying it’s one of the best PL goals is a complete injustice to brilliant team moves and players who dribble past 6 defenders to score. Derby’s goals against Yeovil and Hull for instance were better than Garnacho’s goal. cannable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Barnsley's injury time winner against Wycombe the other day Lawsuit pending... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) Newcastle concede 98th min penalty. Var is daft. Edited November 29, 2023 by TimRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, TimRam said: Newcastle concede 98th min penalty. Var is daft. It just makes you wonder if there's dark forces at hand 😬 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/13018736/newcastle-handball-var-who-reviewed-controversial-handball-penalty-for-psg-stood-down-from-wednesdays-games TimRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, The Last Post said: It just makes you wonder if there's dark forces at hand 😬 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/13018736/newcastle-handball-var-who-reviewed-controversial-handball-penalty-for-psg-stood-down-from-wednesdays-games Seeing as it's peed off the self appointed greatest and most deserving fans in the world- 16'000 when I went there when they were struggling in the early 90's and less the following week without a big away following- I'll give VAR a pass. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Seeing as it's peed off the self appointed greatest and most deserving fans in the world- 16'000 when I went there when they were struggling in the early 90's and less the following week without a big away following- I'll give VAR a pass. I have to admit SCREAMER the Bar Codes and VAR have things in common, They think without them football will be worse off, I'll be a happy camper if both get binned👍 Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 27/11/2023 at 23:20, uttoxram75 said: Came off his shin, could have gone anywhere tbh. Rooneys came off his instep so i'd say his was slightly better. Not a bad goal though. I reckon Collo has one of those in him to clinch promotion. Giving it a good go I'm told. uttoxram75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 hours ago, The Last Post said: It just makes you wonder if there's dark forces at hand 😬 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/13018736/newcastle-handball-var-who-reviewed-controversial-handball-penalty-for-psg-stood-down-from-wednesdays-games Why is it his fault though. The ref on the pitch has the final say. He could’ve over ruled the VAR. he didn’t, so he should be canned. Highgate and FlyBritishMidland 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: Why is it his fault though. The ref on the pitch has the final say. He could’ve over ruled the VAR. he didn’t, so he should be canned. The problem with the system is that once VAR has referred the ref to the monitor, they are saying, in effect, 'we think you have made a mistake - you should reassess it.' So the onfield ref feels under pressure to change the decision. There are several (I don't know the exact number) of people looking at the incident in the little booth - against 1 ref on the pitch. It's the tyranny of the majority. TimRam, Ram-Alf and Highgate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: Why is it his fault though. The ref on the pitch has the final say. He could’ve over ruled the VAR. he didn’t, so he should be canned. Maybe they should release the recorded talks between them. Football is probably the most subjective sport, The VAR operative has been removed for tonight's game as it looks like UEFA agree with most of the pundits, Players, Journalists and commentators. Last season Michael Oliver went against protocol/VAR and stuck with his initial decision when he was invited to look on the screen...this is a rarity, The VAR operative last night saw a hand ball...and acted upon it, The pressure for the ref must have been huge, PSG at home, A baying crowd, 10s of millions of €s at stake, Blame the sh!tty system, UEFA have their scapegoat. You and I could eat the same soup from the same bowl and come to a different conclusion about the taste and quality, Football is the same, Referees/VAR assistants are becoming technocrats and are scared sh!tless to make a game changing call...football has got itself into such a mess that there is no escape. AndyinLiverpool, TigerTedd, FlyBritishMidland and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Man U game was good. Last half hour specially as both teams went for a winner. Elwood P Dowd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 hours ago, TimRam said: Man U game was good. Last half hour specially as both teams went for a winner. Uniteds keepers a clown though isn’t he TimRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Brighton and Villa games were decent last night. Nice to see different teams in Europe now rather than just the usual. TigerTedd and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, TimRam said: Brighton and Villa games were decent last night. Nice to see different teams in Europe now rather than just the usual. Villa should win the uefa conference league easily. They have such a big advantage over the rest in terms of resources. Most in that competition are Championship and League One standard. The only real competition comes from the 7th or 8th best teams in France (Lille), Germany (Frankfurt), Spain and Italy (Fiorentina). And then England’s 7th best team blows them out of the water in terms of financial resources. I just realized Spain don’t even have a team in it. Osasuna got knocked out in the playoff rounds. England should have a winner in this competition every year. At this rate somebody like Chelsea or Newcastle will be in it next season. TimRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Hilarious own goal in Bundesliga 2 between the top 2 teams. Hamburg keeper plays one of those short goalkicks to a defender just outside the 6 yard box, said defender gets closed down so plays it back to the keeper. The goalie takes a huge swing in an attempt to clear it but sadly for him, just as he's about to make contact with the ball it hits a divot, bobbles and he hammers it into the roof of the net. Just as an aside, Jackson Irvine (ex Burton etc) plays for the leaders St.Pauli and scored the opening goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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