RamNut Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Having spent 3 days in lock down, just went out to give the car a run. It’s a normal day out there. Loads of traffic. Lots of people working as normal. I was quite amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Highgate said: Every country except for China and South Korea. They set the example of how to respond to this....the rest of the world should have just done what they did I guess. In many countries it's almost as if authorities want society to break down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Highgate said: Every country except for China and South Korea. They set the example of how to respond to this....the rest of the world should have just done what they did I guess. Taiwan. Ball. Out. Of. Park. They absolutely nailed it. We're Keystone Cops by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ThePrisoner said: Been working from home since Friday 13th. Only been out the house twice, both times to get shopping. Both times, very quiet supermarkets but managed to get what I could. First day of symptoms today with a temperature of 38.7 and a slight shortness of breath. Here we go. Sorry to hear that, get well soon. Have other people in your house got it? If you live alone then it must be highly contagious or take ages for symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Taiwan. Ball. Out. Of. Park. They absolutely nailed it. We're Keystone Cops by comparison. Taiwan's rules were incredible. Fines for not maintaining quarantine with symptoms. Fines/Jailtime for spreading misinformation. All on top of controlling the production of relevant medical supplies from the earliest point. They learnt their lesson from SARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, SaintRam said: Pretty sure I'm right there with you. Headache, lost my sense of smell & taste (which I had to look up but is indeed a fairly common 'new' symptom) and slight shortness of breath. Also suspect my shivering is due to a fever and not a cold house. I was going into work until Friday. Bad news hope you get well asap. At least you are the best on here at doing updates though, keep us informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, SaintRam said: Taiwan's rules were incredible. Fines for not maintaining quarantine with symptoms. Fines/Jailtime for spreading misinformation. All on top of controlling the production of relevant medical supplies from the earliest point. They learnt their lesson from SARS. Sounds like one of them Nanny States that they used to warn about at Eton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, ariotofmyown said: Bad news hope you get well asap. At least you are the best on here at doing updates though, keep us informed. Will do mate. I'm not overly worried; low risk demographic and I recognise that this virus is probably going to pass through more people than not. Just got to do my best to not spread it further myself. I assume my other half has it, so we'll be getting stuff delivered for the forseeable future and telling the delivery people to leave it outside the front door and back away slowly ? Also wont start the process of burdening our health service unless it gets much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Taiwan. Ball. Out. Of. Park. They absolutely nailed it. We're Keystone Cops by comparison. South Korea as well, testing, use of technology, high infection rate but managed it brilliantly no lock down as far as i know They really showed the world how to do it and it is a bigg(ish) country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 43 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: The first part of the question "travelled to China, S Korea, Japan, Italy or Iran in the last 14 days" will surely rule out the vast majority of us. Agreed, that is 2 weeks old, but the physicians know that travel isn't a prerequisite anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Will do mate. I'm not overly worried; low risk demographic and I recognise that this virus is probably going to pass through more people than not. Just got to do my best to not spread it further myself. I assume my other half has it, so we'll be getting stuff delivered for the forseeable future and telling the delivery people to leave it outside the front door and back away slowly ? Also wont start the process of burdening our health service unless it gets much worse. Look after yourselves, and don't leave it too late if you are getting worse. It's good to not overburden the health service, but leaving it too late could overburden your body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, ramit said: In many countries it's almost as if authorities want society to break down. In my view, they seemed too fearful of the economic impact of implementing the draconian measures necessary....rather than actively wishing society to break down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Highgate said: In my view, they seemed too fearful of the economic impact of implementing the draconian measures necessary....rather than actively wishing society to break down. It's all speculative at this point. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Taiwan. Ball. Out. Of. Park. They absolutely nailed it. We're Keystone Cops by comparison. 23 minutes ago, Highgate said: In my view, they seemed too fearful of the economic impact of implementing the draconian measures necessary....rather than actively wishing society to break down. 17 minutes ago, ramit said: It's all speculative at this point. Time will tell. It's been a shambles really. As I said waaaay back on page whatever, we're an island nation, we could've shut borders, screened all passengers arriving on boats planes from high risk zones, but we just let them wander straight through passport control and into the general population. Same goes for closing pubs, cafes, bars etc. he didn't want to enforce a shutdown, so businesses couldn't claim insurance, and no doubt annoy some of his biggest benefactors. But on the flip side, as I said, it's not his fault his predecessors cut the NHS off at the knees over the past 10 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, Highgate said: In my view, they seemed too fearful of the economic impact of implementing the draconian measures necessary....rather than actively wishing society to break down. You say 'seemed' it the past tense as if now we have understood our mistakes and implemented the required measures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: It's been a shambles really. As I said waaaay back on page whatever, we're an island nation, we could've shut borders, screened all passengers arriving on boats planes from high risk zones, but we just let them wander straight through passport control and into the general population. Same goes for closing pubs, cafes, bars etc. he didn't want to enforce a shutdown, so businesses couldn't claim insurance, and no doubt annoy some of his biggest benefactors. But on the flip side, as I said, it's not his fault his predecessors cut the NHS off at the knees over the past 10 years... It's pretty much the same situation here, except we are testing a much higher percentage than Britain is, well we were until the testing swabs were running out. Tourists were not restricted in any way and the reasoning given to Icelanders was that they were much less likely to infect others, because they didn't have as intimate a contact with us natives. Madness, incompetence, flaming capitalist tunnel visioned lunatics running the show here am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 There pubs still open now useing take away option filling pop bottles for £6. So people still ingore the goverment intu shutting shops apart food shop and shops that selling mediacen. Soon be no fast food what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: There pubs still open now useing take away option filling pop bottles for £6. So people still ingore the goverment intu shutting shops apart food shop and shops that selling mediacen. Soon be no fast food what so ever. Yep fast food is deffo slowing down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 46 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: You say 'seemed' it the past tense as if now we have understood our mistakes and implemented the required measures? Good point, seemed (when the virus first reached their countries) and still seem even now (as the virus is already spreading rapidly among their populations). Countries are gradually getting there too late, step by step..but still aren't being decisive enough it seems. If everywhere implemented the sorts of measures that we've seen from some Asian countries, then things might be a whole lot better now. Terribly easy to say in hindsight of course. The irony is, if countries had implemented those measures and shut down this virus before it ever took hold, governments around the world would now be being accused of over-reacting and unnecessarily damaging economies., simply because people wouldn't ever have realized how bad it might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 As more people are now working from home and the increased use of video calls. Could this become more prevalent once the country returns to normality. If so could we see a reduction in rush hour traffic, the limited need for business trip not just around the country but also around the world. Which besides helping to reduce business cost, it would also be great for the environment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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