Wolfie Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 9 hours ago, i-Ram said: You really should post more often. Thanks for giving me a good end to my day. You can't beat a happy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Needlesh said: What a ducking non-story this Cummings thing is. Bloke drives car. Whoopie-do. It's become a story because he's a ********* and people are queuing up to even scores. The self-righteous froth some of the pearl clutchers are gob-spoffing about it is laughable. Cummings has proven to all that he thinks he is above the rules he helped to write. Incompetent governance has insured it's not a non-story IMO and I don't think it's just going to disappear. May be wrong though. We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MaltRam Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, 1967Ram said: Cummings has proven to all that he thinks he is above the rules he helped to write. Incompetent governance has insured it's not a non-story IMO and I don't think it's just going to disappear. May be wrong though. We'll have to wait and see. I didn't say it would disappear, but it is a feeding frenzy of score settling which has grown beyond all relation to the 'crime'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Needlesh said: I didn't say it would disappear, but it is a feeding frenzy of score settling which has grown beyond all relation to the 'crime'. Well there's a lot of people feel they have a score to settle - you know, all the people who did follow the guidelines?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Boycie said: Your best ever post. ?? Ha, bit worrying it’s in the off topic section of a Derby County forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Found this lovely poem. Come forward, one of you must be responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Needlesh said: I didn't say it would disappear, but it is a feeding frenzy of score settling which has grown beyond all relation to the 'crime'. I don't disagree with this however my parents brought me up with 'treat people as you would like to be treated yourself'. Cummings appears not to have had a similar upbringing and appears, as you say, to have many enemies. He should therefore have had more common-sense than to do what he did and act the way he has since it 'came out' IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Funny that I've seen a lot of people try and spin this as anti-brexiteers wanting to punish Cummings for Brexit Yet if you look at the opinion polls - there is a far larger percentage of people polling that he did wrong/should resign than ever voted Brexit Even on here, those who were broadly in support of Brexit seem to think it's indefensible Even Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail are against him If you ignore the (valid) "criticisms of the media angle", and just look at the bare bones of what he did, it's not even a party political issue. It's about whether those with power should be allowed to get away with doing things that they are expecting those without power to do Red or blue, remain or leave - the issue stays the same and is judged at a personal level, not political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 12 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I wish I had waited a few minutes to read this before making a long post! Ha, we need more of us asking questions! Some excellent questions raised and with few answers from Cummings and those on here who are seemingly ‘bored of it’ like a petulant child. Interesting though that is seemingly the take they are going for this morning, that we are now bored of the question whether he should resign, be fined or whatever which conveniently misses point. It’s not a question of punishment it’s whether he’s trying to deceive the public. Kinda looking forward to what happens next, whether any other politicians get caught out or more details come out about Cummings himself up in Durham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Needlesh said: I didn't say it would disappear, but it is a feeding frenzy of score settling which has grown beyond all relation to the 'crime'. The problem with blaming the media is that if they are not like a dog with a bone these people just lie , deny and ignore , he and gov have held back as much as they can to see what they have no choice but to admit to, perhaps if the supposed hounded acted with decency and honesty then we could force/ expect the hounds to do the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Funny that I've seen a lot of people try and spin this as anti-brexiteers wanting to punish Cummings for Brexit Yet if you look at the opinion polls - there is a far larger percentage of people polling that he did wrong/should resign than ever voted Brexit Even on here, those who were broadly in support of Brexit seem to think it's indefensible Even Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail are against him If you ignore the (valid) "criticisms of the media angle", and just look at the bare bones of what he did, it's not even a party political issue. It's about whether those with power should be allowed to get away with doing things that they are expecting those without power to do Red or blue, remain or leave - the issue stays the same and is judged at a personal level, not political I don’t fully agree I think this issue transcends personal emotions. It is in my view some kind of spiritual intervention, karma if you like. Someone, somewhere, is stirring the pot of meta-ethics, normative ethics and applied ethics, and produced a brilliant example of how Good might overcome pure Evil. Cummings is the spawn of the Devil and he must die (or at least resign). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, SchtivePesley said: Funny that I've seen a lot of people try and spin this as anti-brexiteers wanting to punish Cummings for Brexit ??♂️ That’s me, I’ve been waiting for him to get his comeuppance for his part in the bus escapade. I can imagine him sitting at home thinking how clever he was deceiving the gullible/disinterested and I make no apologies for enjoying seeing him under the cosh, not that I think it’ll bother him personally such is the arrogance of the man. A vote of no confidence in Johnson wouldn’t go amiss for me either, that would put his gas at a peep as my granny would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 12 hours ago, SchtivePesley said: I'm still trying to get my head around the Daily Mail's new angle on all this stuff Why are they suddenly attacking the government? My head hurts This may have something to do with it https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/03/political-journalists-boycott-no-10-briefing-after-reporter-ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: A vote of no confidence in Johnson wouldn’t go amiss for me either, that would put his gas at a peep as my granny would say. How would a vote of no confidence come about, Are you thinking a Vote from his own party or a an act of suicide from his back benches colluding with the opposition. 1. A long drawn out process by his own MPs and to be replaced by??????? Gove? 2. Or the ancient art of Hari Kari where there's a good chance the Red Wall that crumbled under Corbyn, Could be re built under Starmer. We're seeing the truth about Polititians...Looking after number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: ??♂️ That’s me, I’ve been waiting for him to get his comeuppance for his part in the bus escapade. I can imagine him sitting at home thinking how clever he was deceiving the gullible/disinterested and I make no apologies for enjoying seeing him under the cosh, not that I think it’ll bother him personally such is the arrogance of the man. A vote of no confidence in Johnson wouldn’t go amiss for me either, that would put his gas at a peep as my granny would say. Glad you stick up for people mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: Glad you stick up for people mate Do you believe that it's justified as he was only doing whatever it takes to look after his family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, GboroRam said: Do you believe that it's justified as he was only doing whatever it takes to look after his family? I don’t particularly like Cummings but this is political nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Curtains said: I don’t particularly like Cummings but this is political nothing less. Just asking if you accept his reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, GboroRam said: Just asking if you accept his reason. I’ve told you I accept what he did to protect his family. Is this Groundhog Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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