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5 hours ago, mossjram said:

Anyone else feeling that the betting sponsorship a little too far with the number 32 gag , it must  be part of the contract didn’t do it for free. 

 

That's modern pro sport, driven by greed. Money is everything..... fair play, morals & ethics count for nothing,

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6 minutes ago, BathRam72 said:

Who really cares other than the church? 

The church can do one but there are lots of other people who care about this kind of thing. 32RED are 100% exploiting a loophole here and it should be thought about and talked about. 

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5 hours ago, Danelaw Rams said:

we still sell retro Derby shirts with "Bass"(Ale) sponsor on it

I can't find this on the website... can you send a link if you have one? 

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3 hours ago, mossjram said:

Kids don’t have 32Red  but now they will know all about 32Red with their 32 shirts and   I personally would have done the right thing and avoided it , if it broke the deal then even more reason to avoid it if not great change the number , not too late to change 

If we avoided it the sponsorship would be lower.  If we change it, I doubt this player will be seen at Derby County as he will be unaffordable.  The same government sport minister having a go about this is chairing a meeting on the unacceptable demise of Bolton and Bury and what went wrong .  I would imagine overspending in an effort to achieve without planning .  He can't have it both ways . 

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If the powers that be want the likes of Derby and Middlesborough not putting 32 on the back of shirts maybe the EFL should abandon FFP which stops normal  championship teams being able to compete with the 3 relegated teams each year with the parachute payments.With  clubs getting the payments for up to 4 years,this means that it is possible that as many as half the league are on the the other 12 are the losers

 

 

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I don't get the fuss. 

What is so evil about gambling? Even them payday loan companies. I would never advise anyone to get a payday loan but if you choose to then you have chosen to. No good saying Wonga printed on a t shirt made you do it. 

Take some responsibility. I do believe it's possible to watch Rooney play and not go and gamble your life on a late night roulette wheel. 

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I doubt the club is worried about this.

I am sure beforehand they would have anticipated the potential for people to jump on the story and put a negative spin on it.

A move like Rooney to Derby is unprecedented at this level and so too are the finer points of the deal.

People were never going to let us have our moment in the sun, so we just have to take the rough with the smooth.

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10 hours ago, mossjram said:

Anyone else feeling that the betting sponsorship a little too far with the number 32 gag , it must  be part of the contract didn’t do it for free. 

 

Er no.

Next. 

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Maybe the football league should embrace this idea and have a new rule in FFP where each team is allowed 1 (but only 1) player who's wages are paid by a sponsor. So you could have a crap team but JustEat have gifted you Bale or Standard Charter present Sanchez for Rotherham 

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14 hours ago, Danelaw Rams said:

we still sell retro Derby shirts with "Bass"(Ale) sponsor on it.

 

8 hours ago, Ken Tram said:

I can't find this on the website... can you send a link if you have one? 

In the Fashion/Retro section of the club shop online...

https://www.dcfcmegastore.co.uk/item/1246/Retro/1986-Away-Retro-Shirt-Blue.html

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37 minutes ago, WestKentRam said:
9 hours ago, Ken Tram said:

I can't find this on the website... can you send a link if you have one? 

In the Fashion/Retro section of the club shop online...

https://www.dcfcmegastore.co.uk/item/1246/Retro/1986-Away-Retro-Shirt-Blue.html

Thanks! Now, all I need is for the sizing guide to also include beer-gut measurements, in addition to chest and waist sizes, and I'll be able to buy the right size! 

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So the giant 32red logo on the front of the shirt and the gigantic eye searing advertising boards that surround the pitch with the 32red logo on and the 32red logos that are pasted directly on to the ground around the pitch are fine. But you change the number on the back of one shirt and suddenly you've gone too far?

 

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Regarding the betting money, this deal is a specific and famous example, but anyone claiming its the Rooney deal that tips it over the edge is deluded or lying to you. 

Betting ads are constant during live coverage, they're on a massive amount of shirts, the sponsor the whole league, they're on the ad boards and all over the concourse of nearly every ground. That needs looking at rather than Rooney number (on a shirt that already has 32 red and sky bet on it). 

Like Mel said previously, teams are under pressure to compete financially with parachute payments at this level, or with commercial giants like Man u in the prem, and you can't finance that personally due to FFP. Who else would be able to pay that much into football, unless it's the owners company? Alcohol can't now, banks aren't so much anymore, and you could argue that banks are more immoral than betting firms. 

Basically if you're ruling companies out on moral grounds, you won't have many multi million pound companies left to pick from, and that's before we look at the money from the UAE or Qatar ect. Unless you're going to go back to far less money in football you're stuck with some money from a company or owner with moral question marks *puts communist tin hat on*

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I'm not worried about increased sponsorship deal paying for Rooney. What I am worried about is that the EFL will try and make an example of us for some reason and that rooney having squad number 32 is against some potential regulation? 

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No.

In fact I would go one step further and get Rooney to change his name to Wayne 32Red by deed poll.

Would cost him £25 but potentially net us another couple of £million.

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42 minutes ago, Ken Tram said:

Thanks! Now, all I need is for the sizing guide to also include beer-gut measurements, in addition to chest and waist sizes, and I'll be able to buy the right size! 

Could be a bit snug. Only small size left.

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