MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I’d argue that Butland has declined rapidly since working with Steele. I'd argue its since he joined Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Interesting one this. I've said that questions need to be asked of Given because our keepers haven't improved under him at all imo. I watched a programme on Sky a while ago. I think it was soccerbox with Gary Neville and he had Rooney on it just going over his goals. It was filmed long before he came here. But they had a game against Newcastle on and Rooney said before they played Newcastle they always new to put balls high in the box as they knew that was Given's weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I’d argue that Butland has declined rapidly since working with Steele. I’d say the injury that put him out of the Euros is what did him in. Steele certainly had him visibly improving in the few games we had him though. Grant stopped flapping immediately as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Think Shay turned them down last year as he doesn’t want to move from Cheshire. if he does go Martin Taylor is not doing anything ? I know you’re joking but I can’t resist making the point Every ‘keeper we had under Clough, and thus Taylor, declined. No ‘keeper lasted more than one full season as #1 under them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, cannable said: I know you’re joking but I can’t resist making the point Every ‘keeper we had under Clough, and thus Taylor, declined. No ‘keeper lasted more than one full season as #1 under them. How long did Fielding last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Interesting one this. I've said that questions need to be asked of Given because our keepers haven't improved under him at all imo. I watched a programme on Sky a while ago. I think it was soccerbox with Gary Neville and he had Rooney on it just going over his goals. It was filmed long before he came here. But they had a game against Newcastle on and Rooney said before they played Newcastle they always new to put balls high in the box as they knew that was Given's weakness. I’ve seen a clip of Given training Roos getting criticised on Twitter by coaches due to the drills lack of practicality. It looked flashy but didn’t actually have any aspects that were transferable into a match situation. Then, one of the things Carson credited Zuberbuhler with was coaching ‘keepers not to come off of the line for one on ones. How many times did Carson get lobbed around Christmas time 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, Mostyn6 said: How long did Fielding last? A bit of 10/11 on loan, 11/12 first choice, Legzdins became first choice in 12/13, Fielding sold by 13/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: I’d argue that Butland has declined rapidly since working with Steele. Agreed, I didn’t think Steele as knowledgeable as he is actually improved us that much Zuberbuhler took it to another level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Crazy said: Alright Frank, you can have him. Straight swap for Tomori. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: How long did Fielding last? 6 overs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: *sob* WTF! Another reason for me to want to bludgeon Mr Rowett to an early demise with a huge knobbly cudgel.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Another reason for me to want to bludgeon Mr Rowett to an early demise with a huge knobbly cudgel.....? He earned my eternal gratitude for doing one thing and one thing only, I bet you can't guess what that was? ? Clue: he was stupid enough to do the complete opposite of this for an extra £5m or more just 1 season later! Diclsclaimer: this is an entirely hypothetical quiz and no answers should be posted on the thread, or anywhere else, or they will 100% rightfully and justifiably be deleted by @SaintRam ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Coconut said: He earned my eternal gratitude for doing one thing and one thing only, I bet you can't guess what that was? ? Clue: he was stupid enough to do the complete opposite of this for an extra £5m or more just 1 season later! Diclsclaimer: this is an entirely hypothetical quiz and no answers should be posted on the thread, or anywhere else, or they will 100% rightfully and justifiably be deleted by @SaintRam ? ? Resign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Resign? Bit harsh to suggest that SaintRam should resign just for doing his job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Coconut said: Bit harsh to suggest that SaintRam should resign just for doing his job! Not so much a job as much as a masochistic hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Not so much a job as much as a masochistic hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Did anyone spot the Chris van der Weerden interview on RamsTV the other day? It was really interesting to hear about the plans for this season. It sounds like the coaching team have learned a lot about the Championship over the last year... and which bits of their dutch philosophy will and won't work at this level. He highlighted the way in which Leeds, West Brom, Fulham and Brentford played with more energy and intensity than us. He spoke about our fitness levels and said they weren't good enough last season. He spoke about how the coaching team were planning some tactical changes for the team this season too. I love the way that they are open about adapting their style and changing based on what they have learned being in England. I am so inspired and positive about this coaching team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Did anyone spot the Chris van der Weerden interview on RamsTV the other day? It was really interesting to hear about the plans for this season. It sounds like the coaching team have learned a lot about the Championship over the last year... and which bits of their dutch philosophy will and won't work at this level. He highlighted the way in which Leeds, West Brom, Fulham and Brentford played with more energy and intensity than us. He spoke about our fitness levels and said they weren't good enough last season. He spoke about how the coaching team were planning some tactical changes for the team this season too. I love the way that they are open about adapting their style and changing based on what they have learned being in England. I am so inspired and positive about this coaching team! Think this could mean they’re planning on using Marriott more often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: Think this could mean they’re planning on using Marriott more often Could mean lots of things. We should hopefully get a clue in next Tuesday's game against Sheffield Utd. That will be a real test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've got to say I'm very pleased about this. What worked in Holland won't always work in England, it's a different ball game. Good to see they can be flexible and adapt their philosophy. There were a lot of calls last season from people saying cocus style of play is too slow and it won't work in the championship but it's encouraging to hear Chris talking about intensity saying we need to make more runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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