DRBee Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 7 hours ago, ramsbottom said: No. Simply because we've seen him in the last couple of games show what a lot of Brum fans commented about him when he came to us, tactical flexibility. Things had stagnated, and weren't working, so he's changed things. Admittedly it could've helped if he'd done it a few games earlier but it's welcome none the less... i think more than a few games earlier. Tactical rigidity personified until " we had nothing to lose". Until then , Rowett's 'planB' was as elusive a concept as the 'Derby way'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, NottsRam77 said: Ffs are we really doing a poll about this ??!? Wtf! so we lose, we sack him?? at least in theory we will have made it a full season with the same manager even if it means we start a new one with yet another new manager, new ideas, new players to add the the piling up collection we have give.... me ... f ing.... strength why are you so offended by it? People are entitled to their opinion. Do you think we should have kept Pearson longer? Or was you convinced that after those games he was not the right person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 9 hours ago, McLovin said: I’d sack him even if we get promoted as he’d be out of his depth in the prem. Watford did the same by sacking their manager after promotion and they are doing fine in the premier league. Ideal scenario: Rowett and Mel Morris leave Then we get a good manager and new ownership with heavy investment. Sorry mate ,much as I hate to be too blunt if I can avoid it , your barking ,,,stone cold up a tree barking ,, ideal scenario rowett and mel leave ,,,,,,,, when pep and roman come knocking together I will be at the barricades with you ,pitchfork in hand demanding mel and rowett sling their hook forthwith ,,, your in a fantasy land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Yes. Even if we get promoted, I'd fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, NottsRam77 said: Ffs are we really doing a poll about this ??!? Wtf! so we lose, we sack him?? at least in theory we will have made it a full season with the same manager even if it means we start a new one with yet another new manager, new ideas, new players to add the the piling up collection we have give.... me ... f ing.... strength What's wrong with gaging opinion on the forum with a poll on this? I think it's perfectly legitimate to take a survey of the opinion of derby fans on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 On 30/04/2018 at 08:17, PistoldPete2 said: Thats what you call thinking outside the box. It's actually what you would call giving an answer to a different question to the one posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: What if Gary also doesn't find this season acceptable. What if he manages to improve the teams performance next season so that if needs be can be as solid as we sometimes have been but also improve our quick passing and ball retention when attacking at speed? Are you saying this season is as good as it gets? if so why? It will be if he's sacked ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: What if Gary also doesn't find this season acceptable. What if he manages to improve the teams performance next season so that if needs be can be as solid as we sometimes have been but also improve our quick passing and ball retention when attacking at speed? Are you saying this season is as good as it gets? if so why? He has set up his teams to play this way throughout his career, why would he find it unacceptable? He has already shown by getting rid of a certain type of player, and the ones he has brought in, that he is not going to change, hence why this season will be as good as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Rowetts position shouldn't be questioned now, and never should have been this season! He has already overahchieved. If we had a poll at the start of the season i bet over 90% would have taken the position we are in now. Part of the reason we are in contention at this stage of the season is Rowett changing the formation. I gaurentee that Steve Mac would have stuck with 4-3-3 and hoped for the best. Get behind the lads, management and backroom staff please. The last thing we want are polls asking questions about jobs in the lead up to the biggest game of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramchop Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 11 hours ago, DRBee said: Yes and being played as a no 10 . One of the worst 'crimes' of Rowett is that he decided very early that Hughes did not suit the Rowett Derby way , and so didn't use him much. No wonder Hughes decided the only way was to get out. If only we had a number 10 who doesn't score.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, AdamRam said: He has set up his teams to play this way throughout his career, why would he find it unacceptable? He has already shown by getting rid of a certain type of player, and the ones he has brought in, that he is not going to change, hence why this season will be as good as it gets. You miss understand what I'm saying. What if he is happy with his style but not it's application. The style he likes may be exciting and successful if implemented well. We need better passing, decision making, ball retention and energy. As I say what makes you think he isn't striving to get his system applied better by his players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Moist One said: why are you so offended by it? People are entitled to their opinion. Do you think we should have kept Pearson longer? Or was you convinced that after those games he was not the right person? only is its one of the opinions you selected to allow them to have eh moisty ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, HantsRam said: only is its one of the opinions you selected to allow them to have eh moisty ?? what am I missing? IN a question of "would you sack Rowett if we lose..?", I can only think of 2 answers. YES or NO. If there is another potential answer that isn't "YES" or "NO", please enlighten me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Talks the talk but too negative for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Moist One said: what am I missing? IN a question of "would you sack Rowett if we lose..?", I can only think of 2 answers. YES or NO. If there is another potential answer that isn't "YES" or "NO", please enlighten me. Maybe. Or maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ilkleyram said: Maybe. Or maybe not they are not answers, they are refusing to make a decision, which by default becomes "NO". So that answer is NO, cos you are not taking the action to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 52 minutes ago, Moist One said: they are not answers, they are refusing to make a decision, which by default becomes "NO". So that answer is NO, cos you are not taking the action to do anything. Maybe. Or maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramshankered Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 20 hours ago, Moist One said: I totally disagree. Consistency is not what this club needs. Progress is. I don't disagree with your position. To my mind both are linked. It's the inconsistency with managers (i.e. getting through 1-2 a season) that's led to a lack of progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Ramshankered said: I don't disagree with your position. To my mind both are linked. It's the inconsistency with managers (i.e. getting through 1-2 a season) that's led to a lack of progress. it could be argued thought that some teams make progress in a season, so therefore there should be signs of progress already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 On 01/05/2018 at 18:33, Moist One said: why are you so offended by it? People are entitled to their opinion. Do you think we should have kept Pearson longer? Or was you convinced that after those games he was not the right person? have I said people arnt entitled to an opinion? Doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to face palm my hand when I read such utter nonsense lol what give a manger more than a dozen games to get his ideas and philosophies across ???? Yer I reckon we should have given him longer do I think he was the right man .. no, but hindsight is wonderful. Imagine if united had the "derby way" of sacking managers when fergie saved his job with that win against forest patience is a virtue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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